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Manny Sousa 09-06-2010 06:16 PM

Stick cars at Indy
 
Is it just me or do the clutch guys seem to do really well at Indy. Maybe I am wrong. Just seems that way. Congrats to Tim Bishop today.

Anyone got any stats on Indy winners with sticks?

Manny Sousa

Robert Simpson 09-06-2010 07:34 PM

Re: Stick cars at Indy
 
There for a while stick cars won alot. Jim with his N/S, Kevin Heilms 3 yrs with his B/S, Dave Walther with his H/S, Eric Waldo's B/S. I am sure there are other but I do remember these. Great job to Tim for adding to this list.

Robert

G Schenck 09-07-2010 01:08 AM

Re: Stick cars at Indy
 
Gary Waldo won last year in E/S.

Greg

Dwight Southerland 09-07-2010 08:34 AM

Re: Stick cars at Indy
 
Statistically, stick cars win more in relation to their population numbers than automatic cars. A factor in that analysis is the quality of the racers who choose to race a stick, which may be more of a factor than any inherent advantage a clutch car has.

X-TECH MAN 09-07-2010 09:08 AM

Re: Stick cars at Indy
 
Just wait until some of the DP's change over to a stick not to mention the Mustangs due to the AHFS factoring. Remember when an auto combo gets a hit the stick combo stays the same.

Pvt Parts 09-07-2010 08:12 PM

Re: Stick cars at Indy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 208676)
Statistically, stick cars win more in relation to their population numbers than automatic cars. A factor in that analysis is the quality of the racers who choose to race a stick, which may be more of a factor than any inherent advantage a clutch car has.


It couldn't have been said any better.

Dwight Southerland 09-08-2010 08:52 AM

Re: Stick cars at Indy
 
Pvt Parts - Yo, Scott! Whacha up to?!? I thought you were dead or in Singapore or something!?!

Michael Beard 09-08-2010 09:16 AM

Re: Stick cars at Indy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 208682)
Just wait until some of the DP's change over to a stick not to mention the Mustangs due to the AHFS factoring. Remember when an auto combo gets a hit the stick combo stays the same.

I don't know much about engine building... man! Must be a huge investment to have both an automatic engine dyno and a stick-shift engine dyno... :rolleyes:

It would only even *start* to make sense to have different HP factors for the exact same engine *maybe* if sticks and autos were run together.

X-TECH MAN 09-08-2010 09:24 AM

Re: Stick cars at Indy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 208904)
I don't know much about engine building... man! Must be a huge investment to have both an automatic engine dyno and a stick-shift engine dyno... :rolleyes:

It would only even *start* to make sense to have different HP factors for the exact same engine *maybe* if sticks and autos were run together.

Well the AHFS only affects the combo that trips the triggers. I still think stick and autos should run heads up and the lower class smaller engine combos getting a small wt. break. Less classes....more heads up runs. Not so much bracket racing.

Jeff Lee 09-08-2010 02:20 PM

Re: Stick cars at Indy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x-tech man (Post 208906)
well the ahfs only affects the combo that trips the triggers. I still think stick and autos should run heads up and the lower class smaller engine combos getting a small wt. Break. Less classes....more heads up runs. Not so much bracket racing.

x2 :)


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