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Chris "drooze" Wertman 07-30-2010 07:45 PM

4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
Is anyone running a competitive Super Comp car ?

Im thinking about a car that I can start in Super Comp and later jump to Comp Elim with.

I kinda dig the idea of a 4 cyl BIG Turbo car, in a FC Chassis, would be a lot of fun.

Would be fun to build, drive, work on and just be way cool in my book.....

So....the question is , is, is anyone running one competitive, or is there a reason a FC wouldnt be competitive in SC ? Even forgetting the 4 cyl, and say a big turbo third gen Hemi ?

Looking for something new to sink my paws into building...something...well that everyone will say cant be built in a month :eek: (Ok by End of Sept, I gotta finish my house and I wanna go on a Cruise):D

CBS 07-30-2010 08:03 PM

Re: 4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
What are you smoking....

chebby2 07-30-2010 08:16 PM

Re: 4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
Rock, to the point. lol

Chris "drooze" Wertman 07-30-2010 08:16 PM

Re: 4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS (Post 201524)
What are you smoking....

Basic Filter 100's :)

Why wheres the screw loose in having fun ?

The Funny car in Super Comp ? (its allowed)

Or a big hp big fan 4 turbo like they are running on my favorite dyno right now thats pushing a 2300lb car into the mid 8s ? Viable engine.

Or the later running it in Comp ? (thats why I liked the 4) I get a 350lb break for running it as a 4, (in SC that is, albeit dono if I could even get close to that with a FC)

Or am I missing something in the rules that makes this combo not legal ?

Im going monday to meet with an "oddball" comp elim champ to discuss those plans for later.

But I think the rest of the season would be good in SC to get used to the car and work out the gremlins, forgetting the "strategy" learning curve that will be wasted later, knowledge is never wasted.

So ?

What are the loose screws in this idea ?

And WHY You ask ? Well this years plan all along for me was a Digger of a FC, the SFI Specs have been on my desk since Oct, the DP was a distraction and not my idea, so back to my plans. I want a FC now more than a Digger....sooooo....I need to find a use for it, something economical , fun , and with a WTF factor, as well as something unique.

Seriously.....really very serious actually Im going to look at a new S&W Chassis next week.......

Now that my house is a couple weeks from done with a break from the DP , well.....Im gonna need something to do afterward other than watch my grass grow....

bmac 07-30-2010 08:39 PM

Re: 4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
yikes...not a clue when he was a stocker racer and even less now

Chris "drooze" Wertman 07-30-2010 08:41 PM

Re: 4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmac (Post 201532)
yikes...not a clue when he was a stocker racer and even less now

Sure wont learn with answers like that now will I genius.

How about instead of insults, give me REASONS..........

One is easy, the other well, depends on what you know I guess.

Bill Baer 07-30-2010 08:54 PM

Re: 4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris "drooze" Wertman (Post 201527)
Basic Filter 100's :)

Why wheres the screw loose in having fun ?

The Funny car in Super Comp ? (its allowed)

Or a big hp big fan 4 turbo like they are running on my favorite dyno right now thats pushing a 2300lb car into the mid 8s ? Viable engine.

Or the later running it in Comp ? (thats why I liked the 4) I get a 350lb break for running it as a 4, (in SC that is, albeit dono if I could even get close to that with a FC)

Or am I missing something in the rules that makes this combo not legal ?

Im going monday to meet with an "oddball" comp elim champ to discuss those plans for later.

But I think the rest of the season would be good in SC to get used to the car and work out the gremlins, forgetting the "strategy" learning curve that will be wasted later, knowledge is never wasted.

So ?

What are the loose screws in this idea ?

And WHY You ask ? Well this years plan all along for me was a Digger of a FC, the SFI Specs have been on my desk since Oct, the DP was a distraction and not my idea, so back to my plans. I want a FC now more than a Digger....sooooo....I need to find a use for it, something economical , fun , and with a WTF factor, as well as something unique.

Seriously.....really very serious actually Im going to look at a new S&W Chassis next week.......

Now that my house is a couple weeks from done with a break from the DP , well.....Im gonna need something to do afterward other than watch my grass grow....



Well I suppose it could work, I would consider a 4 link chassis with a roadster body for visibility.

Chris "drooze" Wertman 07-30-2010 09:14 PM

Re: 4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Baer (Post 201538)
Well I suppose it could work, I would consider a 4 link chassis with a roadster body for visibility.

Why the 4 link chassis with a 4 turbo ?

The body I get....and there is an altered body on the chassis now (he has both) and I can get that cheap so, not a bad idea.

But with the low torque of a 4 turbo off the line why the 4 link ?

Thanks, Im not trying to see this as a world killer , just as to wether its viable or feasible at all. The long term plans for the car ... well thats where the serious thoughts need to be given.

But it would seem that getting the car consistent and fast in SC would be a good starting point ?

Im kicking it around, any pros / cons constructive considerations are always helpful....

(And I can say I have NO idea whatsoever how a FC chassis and body would run with a 4 cyl turbo) the Chassis I am looking at may be overkill, but its new, MW full floater, Lamb, all kinds of "goodies" all top notch stuff. Like I said since I have no idea, well, even suggestions in that area are appreciated.

One of the "backup" plans is a big fan third gen hemi Ive got the parts to build , pistons, rods, etc....that were planned for a SS/GT car but since my 72 is going bybye....well...I have to see 1000;s in good slugs and rods go to waste. So they could be used there.

Just thinking through this...

Thanks

Chris

CBS 07-31-2010 07:04 AM

Re: 4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
Its probably that no one has has run a turbocharged 4 cylinder with any success ...that I know of...I don't have a problem with the altered body....or even the funny car body....but just remember super comp is probably the toughest class to win in. A big block dragster is extremely consistent and very fast. And they will be bearing down on you at big speeds or driving in front of you keeping a wheel on you.....and with that funny car body you probably won't be able to see them coming.....

Running 8.90 isn't probably a problem, but the 4 tenths tree might be....and throttle stopping a turbo car might be difficult.....remember this isn't stock or super stock....these cars are within 1 most of the time...they don't spin...they don't do anything stupid....and Ray charles is 00 from the grave...........in super stock...I'm thrilled with a 20 light...in super comp....I feel I missed it....

I don't think this is one of those deals where if you master it....you will have the killer unbeatable combo....it doesn't exist.....that's why its such a big deal to win more than 1 race....because its hard to win....

Plus....There's no qualifying...its random pairing for first round......I would be worried that there would be a staging lane accident.....trying to line up with you........lol

Just run it in comp and get used to it there......

Rock

Cisco Kid 07-31-2010 07:28 AM

Re: 4 Cyl Super Comp Cars ?
 
you can run any combanation you want the key is "consistency" if you are consistant it will show on the track..


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