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ALMACK 07-24-2010 12:09 AM

Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interesting
 
With the NHRA allowing the new CJ and DP into Stock, it just seems the whole "stock" idea is exagerated now. So, taking it one step further, I was thinking how cool it would be for racers to have alot more choices.

I know the NHRA would never consider the following idea, but maybe the IHRA guys would listen.

The IHRA Stock GT class is a great idea. However, it is somewhat limited to carbed engine combos. (1979 and older engines into 1980 and later bodies)
The current GT combos would still be legal with this new proposed idea, but now, even more racers could get involved !

Here are the proposed guidelines:

*** Any year eligible vehicle in the stock car classification guide could use any eligible engine produced from the 1960's to 2011. (must remain within the corporate family of the body tho)

*** The only engines that could use a 2 speed automatic would be those engines that came from the factory with a 2 speed. Beyond that, any eligible engine could use the choice of a 3 or 4 speed automatic or 4,5, or 6 speed manuals. This way engines that before could only run manuals, can now run either type of trans.

*** The possibilities are numerous.
Examples:
A racer with a 1968 Firebird could run a 1973 SD 455 if so desired.

A racer with a 1983 Thunderbird could run an 1985 carbed 5.0L H.O. Mustang engine with an automatic.

A racer with a 1969 Camaro could run a 1999 LS1 Z-28 fuel injected engine.

A racer with a new 2010 body in white Challenger puts a 440 six pack in it.

Just think of the fun combos racers could come up with !

What do you think ?

Mark Yacavone 07-24-2010 01:32 AM

Re: Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interes
 
What do I think?

You asked ,so...

My opinion is, whenever you have the wrong engine in the wrong body, It's b-o-r-i-n-g!

That goes for GT Stock, GT Super Stock , IHRA Crate Motor, NASCAR , NMCA ...wherever.

Bob Bender 07-24-2010 03:02 AM

Re: Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mark yacavone (Post 200109)
what do i think?

You asked ,so...

My opinion is, whenever you have the wrong engine in the wrong body, it's b-o-r-i-n-g!

That goes for gt stock, gt super stock , ihra crate motor, nascar , nmca ...wherever.

amen

X-TECH MAN 07-24-2010 07:36 AM

Re: Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interes
 
I think it would be a nightmare for IHRA. They have trouble keeping up with the combos that already exist with the couple of guys who still care about class racing still working with them.

Robert Swartz 07-24-2010 04:25 PM

Re: Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 200122)
I think it would be a nightmare for IHRA. They have trouble keeping up with the combos that already exist with the couple of guys who still care about class racing still working with them.

Have to agree with this. This sounds an awful lot like what AHRA used to do with "Formula Stock". Those rules were written to allow all kinds of mix and match combos, many that were either never offered/existed.

You could always pitch the idea. I really don't understand why there is so much resistance to the crate motor cars or GT stock in NHRA . GT Super Stock for that matter has been around since the early 80's. It certainly didn't ruin the class. That's an old argument, I don't want to dredge it up again. The cars are allowed at the local combos, that's pretty much the only places I expect to attend.

GarysZ24 07-24-2010 04:56 PM

Re: Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interes
 
I'm going to go against the grain of the others so far, by saying I'd like the idea as long as it would give racers who currently run fuel injectioned engines a chance to replace that system with a carbureted system...it would quicken teardowns, and just might make cars easier to adjust/tune (I know it would mine)! Oh how I'd love not having to deal with fuel injection, by being able to run an older version of my 173V6 that was carbureted...with Stock rules as they are now, it's illegal to change a fuel system that came with the make/model/year of your car, to one that didn't. The money/time I would've saved over the years... :( . If that rule ever changes (not likely I bet), then my m.f.i. system will be out faster than I can travel from north Tempe, to F.I.R.. I'm certain I can find a carburetor and manifold from one of the early 173 V6's (similar to what the Chevy Citation my fellow fwd stocker racer "Randy Hyman" has on his car). Too bad the '82 Cavaliers didn't come with V6's or this would be a non-issue with me!

Dave Ribeiro 07-24-2010 07:38 PM

Re: Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interes
 
Don't you guys think they have enough classes Now ??? .... I agree with Terry on this one ....

Eric Kitzan 07-24-2010 07:58 PM

Re: Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interes
 
I think the GT cars in SS are O.K. but stock should be left alone. I think it would kind of cheapen the class.

Alan Roehrich 07-25-2010 08:28 AM

Re: Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interes
 
Hmmm. Alphabet soup class racing. Ever notice what happens when you try to be everything to everyone and let everyone do whatever they want? Eventually, you won't have enough windshield to put all the numbers and letters for the classes on.

danny waters sr 07-25-2010 10:17 AM

Re: Proposed idea for the IHRA Stock GT class....just an idea to make it more interes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Ribeiro (Post 200253)
Don't you guys think they have enough classes Now ??? .... I agree with Terry on this one ....

I agree. Got some classes now that need to be deleted. Y'all killin me now. lol.


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