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herbjr 04-11-2010 12:23 AM

Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
Just curious if they must have correct year seats? And if you have documentation that a car was built a certain way and its in the guide when does interior become an issue. If there is any confusion about what was there or not we have pictures from 1967 and documentation showing parts were available. We arent talking about paper cars we are talking about Seats and the type they came with.

LNorton 04-11-2010 12:55 AM

Re: Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
In my opinion... Who cares what seat it has. As long as it looks right.

Having problems with the wagon still? Idk what that deal is... That high back seat has to be a few pounds heavier at least!

GTX JOHN 04-11-2010 02:10 AM

Re: Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
Back in mid 90's they made me change seats in my car from camaro to dodge dart when some racers complained. Lately it is my opinion and observation that as long as they are automotive not aftermarket ....they do not seem to care anymore. A lot of late model seats are way lighter than our old stuff but I have been nervous to change them.

Floyd Gomez 04-11-2010 06:59 AM

Re: Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
Herb I asked this same question over in tech awhile back. According to NHRA as long as the seats are from the same manufacturer it is ok.

herbjr 04-11-2010 07:33 AM

Re: Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
Ill explain the whole issue when there are more responses, but with all the history books out there about muscle cars what I have is legal but some tech people dont think so due to 2 crying racers. The cool thing is business is good and pistons will be out soon.

Floyd Gomez 04-11-2010 08:27 AM

Re: Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 181260)
Ill explain the whole issue when there are more responses, but with all the history books out there about muscle cars what I have is legal but some tech people dont think so due to 2 crying racers. The cool thing is business is good and pistons will be out soon.

I never thought seats could give you an advantage.:D

Travis Miller 04-11-2010 09:01 AM

Re: Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
Upholstery does not matter. Seats do. In recent years racers have been "caught" with 4-door front seats in 2-door cars. 4-door front seats do not have seat backs that fold forward allowing access to rear seat area, making them lighter weight. A few years ago a well known racer was told to remove his late model Econoline bucket seats from his early Mopar max wedge. He claimed he could not find an original bench seat. When he was told not to come back until he had the correct seat, he showed up at the next national event with a seat that matched the rest of the interior perfectly.

If the stock seat rule was to be "liberalized" allowing any seat as long as it was from the same manufacturer, it would not be long before all Mopars would all be using Bostrom buckets from '68 hemi cars, all Chevys would be using seats from '67 Camaros, and Fords would be installing buckets out of '65 Mustangs.

Everyone knows that seat swaps in Stock are to gain class advantage by way of lighter weight. If someone is running a rare or older car that has hard to find interior parts, then they just need to keep searching until they find the correct seats. Stock Eliminator does not need anymore liberalized rules!

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

Mike McCandless 04-11-2010 09:43 AM

Re: Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
We gained 10lbs going from a bench to buckets. Reaching a floor mounted shifter with the factory bench is a safety hazard as you need 7' long arms to reach it. I understand rules are rules. This car was going to be raced at one, maybe 2 races this year. I don't have time to race it so we were going to let a friend run it at Piedmont. Seems there are some little cry babies. I'd hate to know I was afraid of a car or driver to the extent that I'd protest their heavier than factory seats. Don't forget the car weighs over 3950lbs with minimum weight at 3845. I was usually the slowest car in stock. Not exactly trying to set the world on fire here.

Luckily racers are like hair stylist, they love to gossip. Already had 3 people call me to tell me about the complainers. I'll look forward to seeing their rods/pistons laying on the ground at a future race.

Greg Hill 04-11-2010 09:54 AM

Re: Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Miller (Post 181277)
Upholstery does not matter. Seats do. In recent years racers have been "caught" with 4-door front seats in 2-door cars. 4-door front seats do not have seat backs that fold forward allowing access to rear seat area, making them lighter weight. A few years ago a well known racer was told to remove his late model Econoline bucket seats from his early Mopar max wedge. He claimed he could not find an original bench seat. When he was told not to come back until he had the correct seat, he showed up at the next national event with a seat that matched the rest of the interior perfectly.

If the stock seat rule was to be "liberalized" allowing any seat as long as it was from the same manufacturer, it would not be long before all Mopars would all be using Bostrom buckets from '68 hemi cars, all Chevys would be using seats from '67 Camaros, and Fords would be installing buckets out of '65 Mustan

Everyone knows that seat swaps in Stock are to gain class advantage by way of lighter weight. If someone is running a rare or older car that has hard to find interior parts, then they just need to keep searching until they find the correct seats. Stock Eliminator does not need anymore liberalized rules!

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)


Unless you have a factory authorized purpose built race car, then they can use any seats they want.

THE LEGEND 04-11-2010 10:16 AM

Re: Do Stockers need correct year seats?
 
Herb,
I know they made Terry Taylor change the seats in their Nova one time. They had 70 model seats and were claiming a 71. I know this for fact because I bought them and put them in my 70 nova. I don't see why that was a problem. They spent a lot of money buying these seats only to be told no.
My personal feeling is if it is a factory seat of same manufacture it should be o.k.. I don't think everyone is going to run out and by Camaro or Cuda seats as Travis stated. Mainly because you can't find them either.
Let us know when you have the rod pulling party.LOL
Chip


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