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Larry Hill 10-04-2009 09:05 AM

Is it h.p. On monday for the mustangs?
 
With the correction factor of only half for supercharged cars at altitude adjusted tracks, it looks like the A/SA car ran 9.870 or 1.43 under.

That will be 14 H.P. on 10/5/09 or 112 lbs

Are we on the way to the 5000 lbs. Mustang?

bigshow2966 10-04-2009 10:09 AM

Re: Is it h.p. On monday for the mustangs?
 
Very possible.

AC 10-04-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Is it h.p. On monday for the mustangs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 144187)
With the correction factor of only half for supercharged cars at altitude adjusted tracks, it looks like the A/SA car ran 9.870 or 1.43 under.

That will be 14 H.P. on 10/5/09 or 112 lbs

Are we on the way to the 5000 lbs. Mustang?

The Nitro Hot Rod Association may have to look into doing something else, i mean how safe is a 5000 pd race car, not only for the driver but what if god forbid it hit someone else.

Just seems crazy.

Angelo DiTocco 10-04-2009 11:38 AM

Re: Is it h.p. On monday for the mustangs?
 
How about AAA Stock ?

Bob Pagano 10-04-2009 11:43 AM

Re: Is it h.p. On monday for the mustangs?
 
Or god forbid put them where they belong.........IN SUPERSTOCK !

Larry Hill 10-04-2009 11:55 AM

Re: Is it h.p. On monday for the mustangs?
 
I like A/FX @ 7.0 lbs per HP. to be include it has to be a purposely built "Factory Race Car" a car that you could buy from the factory but was never legal to license. The supercharged Mustangs, Drag- Pack Challengers, and NASCAR Hemis would make a great class of cars, and I hope GM will soon have something that will fit. Factory Wars you just got to love them!

Chuck Norton 10-04-2009 11:58 AM

Re: Is it h.p. On monday for the mustangs?
 
Larry,

After reading Tom's post, I'm not sure if the A/SA Mustang ran 9.75 on the clocks or if the record (adjusted for the altitude factor) will be 9.75?

Calculations conducted with my admittedly limited math skills suggest that a run of roughly 9.99 on the clocks would have resulted in a 9.75 record. Since 9.99 is not -1.40, it would seem that the run wouldn't be fast enough to have earned an immediate hit. That is, of course, if the rules are interpreted the way they were up until this year.

Additionally, the ultimate interpretation of the wording of the Altitude Correction Factors chart on NHRA.com will enter into the final scenario. The conditions placed on supercharged and/or turbocharged cars could arguably be intended for the classes that appear above the notation on the page, plus, the example cites only classes within Competition Eliminator. Since Stock and Super Stock appear below that notation, I would wonder if it applies to those classes. I don't recall an instance in which the "half-factor" wording has been applied to Stock or Super Stock combinations. At one point in time, the turbo cars of John and Marka Gallina were regularly assessed horsepower awards at altitude as well as sea level tracks but I don't recall any calculations being made other that the usual altitude correction.

Once again, the conundrum of evaluating boosted engines using a system designed to accommodate naturally aspirated engines becomes problematic.

c

Bobby DiDomenico 10-04-2009 12:02 PM

Re: Is it h.p. On monday for the mustangs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AC (Post 144204)
The Nitro Hot Rod Association may have to look into doing something else, i mean how safe is a 5000 pd race car, not only for the driver but what if god forbid it hit someone else.

Just seems crazy.

The correct "weigh" would be to adjust the class guide multiplier. Maybe they become unable to race at some point.

Tom keedle 10-04-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Is it h.p. On monday for the mustangs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 144212)
I like A/FX @ 7.0 lbs per HP. to be include it has to be a purposely built "Factory Race Car" a car that you could buy from the factory but was never legal to license. The supercharged Mustangs, Drag- Pack Challengers, and NASCAR Hemis would make a great class of cars, and I hope GM will soon have something that will fit. Factory Wars you just got to love them!

yeah, who knows, might just help the car industry in general.
of course, it MAY take away some of the fuel cars "thunder"
would that be a bad thing?


hate to say this but as far as a 5000 lb car hitting a n or lower class car, i'm thinking a cage may be manditory for all classes...


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