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Bob Shaw 04-28-2008 07:53 PM

Great Bend Stock DQ
 
Anybody know why the # 1 qualifier in stock at Great Bend was DQ'd ?

Tyler Wolcott 04-28-2008 09:26 PM

Re: Great Bend Stock DQ
 
I think it was a cylinder head Violation

Dean Feiock 04-28-2008 11:07 PM

Re: Great Bend Stock DQ
 
Rumor has it that the tech crew poured the head and it came up way to big on the exhaust. Rumor also has it that NHRA provided their own head for comparison.

Maybe J Ryan can shed some light on this subject?

Congrats to the entire Ryan Racing crew on your record run at Great Bend.

Bob Orme 04-29-2008 12:23 AM

Re: Great Bend Stock DQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler Wolcott (Post 67534)
I think it was a cylinder head Violation

Yep.

JRyan 04-29-2008 12:55 AM

Re: Great Bend Stock DQ
 
Thanks Dean. Not exactly ideal racing conditions. High side to quartering headwinds most of the weekend. Windchills in the teens in the morning hours. Just like being at home -- ha!

Yes, it was an exhaust port on a 283. How big? I don't know, but apparently NHRA has some specs already in mind for many of the more common cylinder heads. I won't speculate as to whether NHRA is using the SS pour specs or not, but they've been pouring Stocker heads for over a year now, so........??

With regard to this DQ. I was pitted next to the car both in the pits and in teardown, so I know more than I'm telling. Suffice it to say that there are some innocent people caught up in the DQ. I had a long discussion with the owner, and he may challenge it. In fairness to them, that's all I can say.

Jerry

Joe Schweigert 04-29-2008 07:33 AM

Re: Great Bend Stock DQ
 
so are we to assume that the Super Stock volumes are now used or are specs for Stock now ?

SSDiv6 04-29-2008 09:07 AM

Re: Great Bend Stock DQ
 
SO...NHRA is pouring heads in Stock Eliminator without any published volumes or guidelines? What if the racer buys cylinder heads from another racer and shop, the heads get poured and they do not meet the numbers they have and not available to the public?
This is another reason for NHRA to get sued...but...wait a minute...NHRA has established a new rule that they cannot be sued...a rule established to protect themselves from being inept.

JRyan 04-29-2008 11:10 AM

Re: Great Bend Stock DQ
 
No Joe, I don't think we can ASSUME that. As you know, I talked to the owner and understand what went on. Both the owner and NHRA have information to support their sides. All should remember that in the past (way back) they didn't use specs either to DQ what they thought was incorrect. Maybe NHRA is going back to that line of thinking. I don't know, but it's their ballpark.

Jerry

Jim Wahl 04-29-2008 12:01 PM

Re: Great Bend Stock DQ
 
I beg to differ with you Jerry, It's not just their ballpark, it's ours to! We have a right as paying customers/members to have a level, honest playing field. If they (NHRA) is using technical specifications to eliminate racers we have a right to know what those specifications are! This idea that NHRA makes a statement that says "we can not be sued" is BS. This idea ia a fire that must be extinguished. Every person, company or group can be sued and held responsible for their actions. You cannot sign your right to fair treatment away! We are required to play by the rules and so are they. Jim

david ring 04-29-2008 12:38 PM

Re: Great Bend Stock DQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 67569)
NHRA has established a new rule that they cannot be sued...a rule established to protect themselves from being inept.

Obviously NHRA cannot prevent you from suing-they can only prevent you from racing.


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