65 Spring Nationals - Who were they?
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Ive been searching (unsuccessfully) for the winners of S/S and S/SA at the 65 NHRA Spring Nats. Ive heard both winners were A990 Hemi cars but were DQ’d due to illegal ballast.... HOWEVER....I’m unsure if this is correct and still can’t find the drivers names. Can I please ask members to check their resources as this is for a web site I am constructing. Thx all. |
Re: 65 Spring Nationals - Who were they?
If the Springnationals were in Bristol that year, there was no SS. Street was Fred Napfel over Carl Kirk. Stock was Mike Schmitt over Robert Borkes and Jr Stock was Bill Hoefer over Doug Patterson. This is from the 2006 NHRA Media Guide. No SS until 66 and then only at the Winternationals. SS became an every event elim in 67. There was a Top Stock in 66 also at Indy and Tulsa
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There were runners in these classes at the Winters and Indy in 65....so I cant work out why not the Spring Nats? |
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My recollection and I was there, was that all the 65 Hemi cars were disqualified for hidden or illegal ballast.
The cars weighted less than the shipping weight when delivered. That is why you later saw all the gas tank shields, non functional rear mounted traction bars etc. If you can get a hold of Joe Smith former driver for Fenner Tubbs, he might be able to fill in the blanks. I think he still has Joe Smith Race Cars in the Dallas area. Could be wrong. However I do also have a recollection of the "Black Arrow" running in eliminations. So maybe they just DQed the winner and runner up in class. Long time ago. |
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Resurrecting this thread - Would anyone have a pic or know the name of Robert Borkes car? I believe it was a Dodge?
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Do you have a results sheet for 65 Springnationals? I'm totally missing info on that meet. |
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This is what I have from my own research and web site which is still in process. I’ll post Spring Nats and INDY seperately 66. Winternationals Pomona Top Stock Eliminator Shirley Shahan def K Heinemann (Mopar) A/SA SS/A 65 Plymouth A990 - Drag On lady 426 Race Hemi 11.26 @ 126.76 AFXJerry Harvey def Les Ritchie 66 Mustang 427 SOHC BFX CFX Ed Terry 66 Galaxie 289 quad webbers Super Stock Auto - S/SA Joe Smith def. S Shahan (Mopar) Plymouth A990 - Fenner Tubbs 426 Race Hemi 11.32 @ 126.93 Super Stock Stick - S/S Butch Leal Bye Plymouth A990 - California Flash 426 Race Hemi 11.5 A/SA Dick Charbonneau def Fred Sanders (Mopar) 63 Plymouth Stage 1 426 wedge 11.81 @ 119.52 A/S Don Grotheer def Jenkins (Chevy11 2800lbs!) 66 Plymouth (3650lbs!) 426 street hemi 11.98 @ 119.84 Junior Stock Eliminator Wiley Cossey def Bob Chiesa (58 Pontiac E/SA) 65 Biscayne B/S 427 12.49 |
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Oops sorry....that was 66. I’ll post up 65 shortly
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As you’ve discovered, results sheets for 65/66 are hard to come by.
Here are the 65 Spring Nats winners, but very little on the R/Ups. Super Stock Eliminator Mike Schmitt def Robert Borkes (Ford?) Ford Galaxy Lightweight - Desert Motors (719) (AA/S) 427 Hi Riser 12.32 A/FX Don Nicholson def Dick Brannan (Ford Mustang SOHC) Mercury Comet 427 SOHC 10.87 @ 129.12 B/FX Jerry Harvey 65 Galaxy - The Quiet One - (790) 427 SOHC C/FX Bill Hoefer 65 Galaxy - (663) 289 Cobra S/S DQ (weight) Mopar A990 426 Race Hemi S/SA DQ (weight) Mopar A990 426 Race Hemi AA/S Robert Borkes Ford? - Welsh Motors AA/SA Mike Schmitt 64 Galaxy - (719) 427 Hi Riser side oiler Jr Stock Elim Bill Hoefer def Fred Hines/Doug Patterson (Mopar F/SA) 65 Galaxy 289 Cobra 14.08 A/S Mike Ulrey 64 Galaxy -(857) 427 Hi Riser side oiler |
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