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Lenny5160 02-06-2019 12:37 PM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
How fast does the car run wide open? That will influence the options you have. As Hacksaw mentioned, you can go all the way to High gear while on the stop, but you probably want to be a full second quicker than the index (say a 8.90 or quicker car when trying to run 9.90) to pull that off. I get the feeling that your car isn't that quick.

I've never run a 3-speed, but here's what I think I would do in your situation. I'd launch the car hard, then put it on the throttle stop. Have your shifter hooked to a timer which would put the car in 2nd gear shortly after the throttle stop turns on. When the car goes wide open again, I'd either have some way to put the car in 3rd based on RPM or just shift it by hand at the desired RPM.

jlundy 02-06-2019 12:39 PM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 581772)
What about getting it to shift to high gear when your on the stop? Wouldn't that be the most consistent? Thinking you would need a little down track speed but your really fooling the car to think it has a PG trans.


That could work. 1, 2 shift........On stop, come off in high gear. What kind of shock to the converter would that be if any?

jlundy 02-06-2019 12:45 PM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 581779)
How fast does the car run wide open? That will influence the options you have. As Hacksaw mentioned, you can go all the way to High gear while on the stop, but you probably want to be a full second quicker than the index (say a 8.90 or quicker car when trying to run 9.90) to pull that off. I get the feeling that your car isn't that quick.

I've never run a 3-speed, but here's what I think I would do in your situation. I'd launch the car hard, then put it on the throttle stop. Have your shifter hooked to a timer which would put the car in 2nd gear shortly after the throttle stop turns on. When the car goes wide open again, I'd either have some way to put the car in 3rd based on RPM or just shift it by hand at the desired RPM.


To be honest I have no clue what it runs...........I run at altitude 4000ft. This is an all new combo 445ci SBF, C4 trans, 486 gears. 2260# with me in it.


Just fired the motor first time last Sunday while everyone was watching super bowl.

drgrcr1156 02-06-2019 01:25 PM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
I've never run a 3-speed, but here's what I think I would do in your situation. I'd launch the car hard, then put it on the throttle stop. Have your shifter hooked to a timer which would put the car in 2nd gear shortly after the throttle stop turns on. When the car goes wide open again, I'd either have some way to put the car in 3rd based on RPM or just shift it by hand at the desired RPM.[/QUOTE]



I run a 3 speed TH400 in 9.90 and this is how I have my shifts set.

pmrphil 02-06-2019 02:09 PM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlundy (Post 581781)
To be honest I have no clue what it runs...........I run at altitude 4000ft. This is an all new combo 445ci SBF, C4 trans, 486 gears. 2260# with me in it.


Just fired the motor first time last Sunday while everyone was watching super bowl.

Have you done the math regarding rear gear and tire size? As far as finish line RPM goes?

jlundy 02-06-2019 03:03 PM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 581786)
Have you done the math regarding rear gear and tire size? As far as finish line RPM goes?


Yes, I have and finish line rpm would be about 7600.

Hacksaw 02-06-2019 03:13 PM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlundy (Post 581780)
That could work. 1, 2 shift........On stop, come off in high gear. What kind of shock to the converter would that be if any?

I think as long as you have some decent rpm and wheel speed on the stop the converter can handle it and recover quickly. Lots of PG racers do this now. Check with a doughnut maker and get there advice.

jlundy 02-06-2019 04:26 PM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 581792)
I think as long as you have some decent rpm and wheel speed on the stop the converter can handle it and recover quickly. Lots of PG racers do this now. Check with a doughnut maker and get there advice.


I would call Chris Continental but they are out of business.

jlundy 05-23-2019 01:57 PM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
Ok, so I made some passes and the car without any tuning or real testing is running 9.55 @ 140.21 @6200ft DA.


1-2 shift @ 1.8 secs and 2-3 shift @ 3.9 secs obviously short shifting some.
A-1 converters just built me a killer converter.

Super Gas adjusted index is 10.30 at my track.


I need to figure when and how long to put it on the stop now.

Ken MacNicol 05-24-2019 11:19 AM

Re: Want to run 9.90
 
Turn stop on about .2 then shift into 2nd about .5 and come off stop in 2nd and shift into third off RPMs


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