AHFS at Indy?
 

Has anyone heard if AHFS will be in effect at Indy this year?

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Have not heard

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Last year they made the announcement on 7/2. Wonder if it's even in the works or discussion?

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The real question is how many will pull out if they dont drop AFHS?

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appears so.....

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NHRA just posted that all runs in stock and super stock will be counted towards AFHS ---- go to competition on NHRA site for exact wording

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wow wow wow. I'm sure that's going to effect a lot of people's plans

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The crybabies win one!

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Looks like we were the first (of probably many) to withdraw.

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or the crybabies won the previous several....... depending on what side of the performance fence you're on.

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I just spent a ton of $$$ to refresh our motor, some upgraded parts, in the hopes of making a good showing in class. Not sure I want to spend the $$$ now to make the 2500+ mile tow to have to run with timing out. This sucks.

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It's CLASS.... AHFS is doesn't belong there...

Qualifying and class let us GO!!!

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That was not a surprise to me, they were waiting a good while to post it before giving the bad news for some reason. Why the inconsistencies from year to year though. People make race schedules up at the beginning of a season, not near the middle and end of the season unless deep in the heat of a points battle.

Watching the entry list change from hour to hour, day to day now will be fun. That is a long expensive tow Julie to have to pull back on the reins every pass while there including the 1's for the little man.

That sucks for those who spent so much, in the hopes to run it out hard on the big end, to get so little at this late date. My condolences to the many from the few.

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Just another reason why the IHRA is looking better and better for the sportsman racers! I see that Ned Waliser wasn't even at the latest NHRA national Event! Sounds like truck & tractor pulls are more important for him to be at, rather than the $300K job he is paid to do for the NHRA as Vice President of Competition! Loved the comment by Langdon, how he was still waiting to get official word if he actually won the race, since Waliser wasn't even at the event!

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This would be the perfect race for NO ONE in Stock & Super Stock to show up. Heck all the sportsman categories for that matter! That would send a message. Although, I'm sure NONE of the administrators at NHRA even care about this subject, except of course, how it would infuriate them to have down time between all the "Pro Classes".

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But why do all of that when you can just constantly cry to tech about the fast ones??

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Total dick move NHRA >>> wait until you?ve banked $100,000 in entries before you make this pre determined announcement

And I understand that if this bloated bs system ever has a chance to work it must be on for this race >>> but to collect $100g before announcing it >>> total dick move

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Just to add more fun to class. Drive the car to the 1000' mark click it off and coast to the finish line.

Obviously this is a joke and NHRA would NOT get the point of it.

Run class to the 1320 and DON'T use the AHFS.

OR just DON'T show up.

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Is anyone tired of seeing the caprice taxi cab go 2second under the last 4 years
In super stock
To be 1# qualifier
Raise your hand.

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It is still that fast because he?s smart, not a dumbass who will just run it out for no reason!

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Looks to be still overfull. I?m all about performance but who are ya saving the combos for? If I could go 1.30 under o well I?ll take the hit and still work on it to be the fastest with my combo. I currently have the worst combination in the world and it pisses me off but it?s also a fun challenge to make it the best it can be. I?m not lifting or saving anything if we are lucky we have maybe 5-6 more years of NHRA.. I?m going to enjoy and hate it while I can.

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So what National Open will we go to and have unofficial class. I always want to know who is faster.

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Pennsylvannia Dutch Classic.

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Just wondering if they also change it to the little go now?

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I have gone to Indy 18 straight years and I have stayed for all 6 days all of those years. With this asinine decision by the NHRA, I will not be going to Indy this year. I will be canceling my rental car and hotel reservations; and I haven't bought tickets yet because I was waiting to see if AHFS would be in effect. Leave it to the NHRA to screw something else up.

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The US Nationals should be a "let 'er rip" event! No doubt.

I have been there twice, 2021 and 2023. In both cases, I knew it would be tough to make the field. 2021 was the COVID mess, but did qualify and won a round. 2023 got in as a alternate. Won a couple of rounds and cashed a check.

I went because I wanted to experience THE greatest event on the NHRA schedule. Mission accomplished.

You haven't been there, go! Don't put it off. You might wake up some day and can't walk. That's what happened to me.

Life can change in a hurry. Take advantage of your opportunities while you can!

#5458

Curt Rees

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Normally I would laugh at NHRA'S short comings, but this was the only race I was looking forward to going to... Not anymore.

I'm sure Junior Dragsters will put on a great show at this circus.

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Get together and run Class like Gaffney does the AA shootout. 30 pounds under the maximum and self police it. That gets 95% down to 95 under.

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As much as I like this idea, the effects are more harsh on combinations with lower torque to hp ratios like the NA cobra jets.

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If IHRA is smart, they will announce their Columbus race (a twin to the first race) which is a week after Indy, will include Class eliminations and of course will not include AHFS, which they don't do anyway...And attach some type of nice payout for class winners. 500 bucks or something. I know it would be somewhat more expense, but they would put a hurt on Indy.

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Not likely I will ever go to Indy, but the fact this is going to turn into the slam
On the brakes Nationals sucks, I love to see everyone get after it. We have a combo that will never go 1 under and got our *** handed to us in two heads up races at Woodburn, that is our issue picking the combo we have. And let me tell you we work hard, Steve Wann is killing himself to help us work on the combo, but it is what it is. No hard feelings to the guys who are faster. I have one class win in 19yrs and he went red but that?s what I have. One time a year the guys should get to show off, just my two cents, John

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There has to be a reason NHRA changed Indy to a AHFS race. Is it too much negative feedback from the non qualifying cars ? Will it cause the real quick group of cars to get HP? Maybe a few. Smart racers know how to keep the average down.

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1 800 cry nhra

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Larry didn?t you qualify #1 at the 40th, 50th and 60th runnings of the US Nationals? There was the potential for some form of penalty for going extremely far under the index at all of those events and you still survived and thrived. Actually many people say racing was way better in those days! Why the change of heart now?

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Our family just committed to 2026 for our daughter Ashley Thompson to be there. Yes, 2026. And this was a family meeting yesterday not realizing NHRA had posted this change.

We need to plan that far ahead due to time off for multiple professions (Nurse, Teacher, Engineer), commitment the financial means, and commit to car improvements between now and then.

She can?t afford for her combination to be hit with hp. That would be more costly than the benefit of attending. And not knowing if this same rule will apply in 2026 nor when they will determine this makes it difficult to plan.

We were so excited last night. That excitement has now waned. 😔

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Personally I dont see this changing much. There are plenty of racers running .90 to 1.00 under at the regular national and divisional events. There is a very select few that can run faster than the instant trigger. They have to make a choice whether or not to make a fast run or not. Just depends how much they want the Indy class wally. I would be in favor of having the AHFS off for Indy. Makes it a little more special/ Interesting. Good luck to all that plan to go.

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Drew, Jim Marshal used the truck to qualify #1 at the 70th US Nationals.

At the 60th I ran V/S a 22 lbs class and went 2.3x seconds under and received 29 hp. that is 638 lbs of added weight. But and it is a big but I achieved my goal making a run outside the box. And I got to repeat a favorite southern phrase: "Hey y'all watch THIS!

None of that would have been possible without the help of the stock stick racers at Indy that year. I am forever grateful, Thanks again.

Went through teardown and raced.

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Well, didn?t see this coming, very disappointing. Wish we would have known this a few months ago, it would have freed up a lot of weekends we devoted to working in the shop, testing and dyno time.

Coming from a ProStock background, no AHFS at Indy made sense to me, Its our most prestigious race of the year. Bust your butt, work hard, bring the best that you have, hit the tree and let it eat, may the best man win.

I hope they look at again and reconsider.

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soooo what idiot derives a system that penalizes forever ONE run ??

when Farmer was in charge hed casually tell you "you been runnning real good last 3-4 races we gonna move you up a class > personal information, fair assesment and it was ok .... no one liked it but it was fair

now spend $100g (thanks to nhra) and one class final run and shazaam your combo is no longer killer

AHFS > automatic help for slugs cannot will not EVER work we control the input data

captain out >
.... ill be drinking beer and tanning at the downing plantation at indy

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I am with you. I always looked at Indy as special. I enjoyed watching everyone showing their combinations without the worry of a hit on their index.

With the number of cars, Class Eliminations was cool. Cars that never showed their hand let it all out at Indy.

I was going to post one of those "I need a spot at Indy" threads but now I am not that excited about going. I'll be there but probably not racing.

Robin