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MoJo Risen 05-08-2025 06:10 PM

Ihra national events are back!!
 
I hope you enjoy IHRA racing this year as Nhra needs some competition, they've been keeping drag racing hostage for decades now.
IHRA Announces Five Round 2025 Outlaw Nitro Series

FAIRFIELD, Ohio ? The wait is over. The IHRA Outlaw Nitro Series is back, and it?s bringing thunder with it.

After years of anticipation, fans will finally experience the explosive return of one of drag racing?s most electrifying series. It all begins July 9?12 at National Trail Raceway in Hebron, Ohio, where Nitro flames, roaring horsepower, and side-by-side battles will light up the track.

The tour continues with Milan Dragway in Michigan hosting round two July 23?26 before the series returns to National Trail Raceway September 3-6.

It is followed by the adrenaline-pumping action at Dragway 42 in West Salem, Ohio, September 24?27 before closing out the season at the legendary GALOT Motorsports Park in Dunn, North Carolina, November 5?8.

On Friday and Saturday, the 2025 IHRA Outlaw Nitro Series will feature a powerhouse lineup including Top Fuel, Funny Car, Pro Stock, Mountain Motor Pro Stock, Pro Mod, Pro Nitrous, Outlaw Snowmobiles, and a full slate of sportsman classes?all backed by competitive purses (see purse sheet below).

IHRA Pro-Am events will take place on Wednesday and Thursday, featuring Top Dragster, Top Sportsman, Stock, Super Stock, Quick Rod, Super Rod, and Hot Rod. These classes will compete in both the Pro-Am and throughout the Outlaw Nitro Series weekend, showcasing some of the best sportsman racing in the country.

More information about upcoming events will be released in the coming weeks.

Pauley 05-08-2025 07:36 PM

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Wednesday and Thursday?

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JeremyDuncan 05-08-2025 08:29 PM

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1/4 mile or 1/8 mile?

MoJo Risen 05-08-2025 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyDuncan (Post 712196)
1/4 mile or 1/8 mile?

As far as I know it's all 1/4.

MoJo Risen 05-08-2025 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauley (Post 712191)
Wednesday and Thursday?

ep-

It is going to be a double race for sportsman is what I've been told. Wednesday/Thursday and then Saturday/Sunday.

tpoh815 05-09-2025 05:52 AM

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I don't see how Wednesday and Thursday will help out the working man. Friday equals what then? Sorry so negative but this is not going to work well with racers who have jobs!

MoJo Risen 05-09-2025 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tpoh815 (Post 712203)
I don't see how Wednesday and Thursday will help out the working man. Friday equals what then? Sorry so negative but this is not going to work well with racers who have jobs!

Drag Racing hasn't been a working man's sport for decades in my observations. It's literally been a privileged class society and you can see that in the pit/tow vehicles attending these races. Nobody does this for the money. IHRA just gave the racers a "Money Reason" to race. $6000 to win Stock Eliminator and $2000 to Runner up is as good as it gets.

james schaechter 05-09-2025 07:26 AM

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Hopefully they can find their stride and have some success. I for one think that having two options for associations is a net positive for Drag Racing. I have the same obvious concerns based upon their recent history, but my hope is that it works out.

Mike Pearson 05-09-2025 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 712206)
Hopefully they can find their stride and have some success. I for one think that having two options for associations is a net positive for Drag Racing. I have the same obvious concerns based upon their recent history, but my hope is that it works out.

I might give the Galot race a try. We will see how it goes. I am sure there will be some of a learning curve for them. Good purse for the entry fee.

SDmopar 05-09-2025 08:26 AM

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The recent history of big money events for Stk and SS have proven that the majority of people hate money. The majority seem to do it for the trophy and abusive relationship handed out by the promoter. In my opinion nothing bad comes from multiple people competing for our business. I appreciate anyone who will take on the risk to give me a place to race and hang out with like minded individuals. For a low budget guy with limited vacation time and a family at home I have to prioritize where I put my resources. 4 days at the track is an investment. But a Winning a National Event compared to what IHRA is willing to put up is a no brainer for me.

We should all ask ourselves has Class racing gotten better or worse since IHRA went away? We all hate quotas, new rules, AHFS but yet don?t want to support other options.

JP1738 05-09-2025 10:30 AM

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Here is the full schedule, classes and purses.

All national events will be doubles. Wednesday-Thursday pro-am, Fri-Sun Nitro Jam National Event. Many of the folks that have lodged concerns about a Wednesday race already are willing to go to a sportsnational race or national event that start Wednesdays and Thursdays so honestly I'm not sure what they are worried about. If you can't swing the pro-am ahead of the national event, you can just go to the national event which is likely what I'll do myself. We already do that with NHRA, so if you only want to run the National, you can still do that just like we currently do. If you want an extra race while you are already there, go two days sooner.

Personally, I think this is a fantastic way to set these races up, 5 weeks/weekends, 5 national events, 10 total races.

Purses are excellent, contingency has not been listed, but you'd already be winning more at these races with the base purses anyway without having 30 decals plastered all over your factory hot rod. Total purse for Stock and SS is $11,400 EACH with a $300 entry fee. Same for all .90 classes as well. TS and TD pay over $21000 total purse each as well.

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doglover44 05-09-2025 10:45 AM

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So IHRA will not have class run offs for Stock and Super Stock ?

ALMACK 05-09-2025 10:50 AM

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Are those purses locked in regardless of car count ?

JP1738 05-09-2025 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 712221)
Are those purses locked in regardless of car count ?

It makes no mention of car minimums or counts, so I should think not.

JP1738 05-09-2025 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 712220)
So IHRA will not have class run offs for Stock and Super Stock ?

I haven't heard of any class elims being scheduled, but that's asking a lot from a fledgling organization. If not this year, I'd expect them next year.

SDmopar 05-09-2025 12:15 PM

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Has there been anything on rules for Stock? I would think they would just go with what they last used but I?m unable to find those. I started this after they left the market so I?m clueless to what differences there were between IHRA and NHRA. I would be real easy to continue with what they last used for ratings. Just keep track of the data to make hp corrections at the end of the year based on combo average. No reason to worry about triggers and punishment for running our cars. Just average the numbers and correct HP off that info for Parity.

JP1738 05-09-2025 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SDmopar (Post 712226)
Has there been anything on rules for Stock? I would think they would just go with what they last used but I?m unable to find those. I started this after they left the market so I?m clueless to what differences there were between IHRA and NHRA. I would be real easy to continue with what they last used for ratings. Just keep track of the data to make hp corrections at the end of the year based on combo average. No reason to worry about triggers and punishment for running our cars. Just average the numbers and correct HP off that info for Parity.

I've not heard anything on that either, but I'll keep my ear to the ground. I would assume anything that's currently legal in NHRA would be legal in IHRA including the old crate motor classes which are currently allowed to run at NHRA national opens. I believe my friend Roy Caraway had his C/CM at the opens at Carolina last weekend.

Mike Taylor 3601 05-09-2025 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SDmopar (Post 712226)
Has there been anything on rules for Stock? I would think they would just go with what they last used but I?m unable to find those. I started this after they left the market so I?m clueless to what differences there were between IHRA and NHRA. I would be real easy to continue with what they last used for ratings. Just keep track of the data to make hp corrections at the end of the year based on combo average. No reason to worry about triggers and punishment for running our cars. Just average the numbers and correct HP off that info for Parity.

From what I understand same rules and classes as NHRA, I don't know anything about the classes IHRA had that were different are being brought back? pure stock,GT and Crate motor stockers?
or Super Stock production?
I had a pure stocker,still have those parts,but car itself would no longer fit within pure stock rules.
I will never have a combo specific to one sanctioning body again

tpoh815 05-09-2025 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MoJo Risen (Post 712204)
Drag Racing hasn't been a working man's sport for decades in my observations. It's literally been a privileged class society and you can see that in the pit/tow vehicles attending these races. Nobody does this for the money. IHRA just gave the racers a "Money Reason" to race. $6000 to win Stock Eliminator and $2000 to Runner up is as good as it gets.

Be my guest. We'll see how this pans out as far as sustainability goes. Haven't seen contingency or rules either. Lots of unknowns here.

tpoh815 05-09-2025 02:02 PM

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If nobody does it for the money why would they go or who cares about posting $5000 to win? Just would like it to be beneficial for working folks! I hope for it's success but it sure isn't a favorable schedule. Trust me they could use more racers money to keep it going!

Mike Pearson 05-09-2025 02:14 PM

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Back when IHRA was viable and was running the Pro Am series I raced every race in the southeast division. I have a few runner up finishes and won an iron man. They were double race weekend and were run 1/8 mile. The purse and contingency was very similar to NHRA at the time. Car counts were never as good as the NHRA divisionals but were growing when they were bought out by the previous management company. After that I?d folded. Hopefully this new owner can make a go of it. I will support it if they have races close enough. I live in Tampa Fl. So the only one that is reasonable for me is Galot. That?s about a 650 mile tow. I might try to make that race in the fall. Time will tell. It?s in our best interest to support them.

JP1738 05-09-2025 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tpoh815 (Post 712240)
If nobody does it for the money why would they go or who cares about posting $5000 to win? Just would like it to be beneficial for working folks! I hope for it's success but it sure isn't a favorable schedule. Trust me they could use more racers money to keep it going!

You don't have to go on Wednesday if you don't want to. Just go fri-sun like you likely already do for NHRA national events. Don't sh!t-can the whole deal over a pro-am you can't go to. Support what you can.

Bpozzi 05-09-2025 03:18 PM

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I think it?s comical people bashing an organization trying to provide another place for our cars to race, like what did IHRA do to you? Hahaha!! If you don?t wanna go, don?t go, but what does bashing or talking trash about an organization that?s putting up more money for a race than NHRA do for you? You complain that NHRA ****s on us and we get treated poorly and the NHRA has lost touch with sportsman racers - enter IHRA with an option , yuck that?s a dumb idea , it will never work , those days arent convenient for my schedule 😂😂. Not sure who are bigger divas - NHRA sportsman racers or NASCAR/Formula 1 drivers hahaha

JP1738 05-09-2025 03:34 PM

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I believe I've come to the conclusion that people that aren't going to go support this series just aren't going to go. Those folks will come up with whatever excuse they need to justify abstaining from supporting another sanctioning body. No matter what the purse, schedule, racer benefits are and no matter how good your reasoning is to support it, it will never be enough. Their minds are made up. You can argue about it until you are blue in the face, they do not care and it does not matter. I'll do my best to be at the races I can get to from Western NC and I hope to see as many class racers there that can make it too.

GUMP 05-09-2025 04:27 PM

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I wish that they didn't have dates that clash with the Virginia and Georgia NHRA races.

SDmopar 05-09-2025 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 712246)
I believe I've come to the conclusion that people that aren't going to go support this series just aren't going to go. Those folks will come up with whatever excuse they need to justify abstaining from supporting another sanctioning body. No matter what the purse, schedule, racer benefits are and no matter how good your reasoning is to support it, it will never be enough. Their minds are made up. You can argue about it until you are blue in the face, they do not care and it does not matter. I'll do my best to be at the races I can get to from Western NC and I hope to see as many class racers there that can make it too.

I find it hard to take anyone seriously when all they do is complain about the previous option. They won?t let us run our cars all out. This is supposed to be a performance class. Air shifters don?t belong in stock. The new cars are not factored correctly. The quotas are too low. Takes too many grade points. Contingency and payouts are a joke.

You sound like you?re in an abusive relationship. ?It?s not their fault it?s mine.?

You deserve the misery you live in if don?t look at other options.

MoJo Risen 05-09-2025 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 712252)
I wish that they didn't have dates that clash with the Virginia and Georgia NHRA races.

You're not very far in the NHRA points hunt as of today. There is a world champion in IHRA and you could do well there.. PLUS, there isn't ANY Junior Dragsters.

Mike Schwartz 05-10-2025 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tpoh815 (Post 712203)
I don't see how Wednesday and Thursday will help out the working man. Friday equals what then? Sorry so negative but this is not going to work well with racers who have jobs!

Racers that participate in the Fling series and other big bracket events are used to starting on Tuesday & Wednesday, Car counts exceed combined S & SS participation.

GUMP 05-10-2025 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MoJo Risen (Post 712261)
You're not very far in the NHRA points hunt as of today. There is a world champion in IHRA and you could do well there.. PLUS, there isn't ANY Junior Dragsters.

I'm not in the running at all yet. In fact, I am way behind my original plan. Having choices just adds to my " First World Problems"!!

Larry Hill 05-10-2025 08:42 AM

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Lovin’ Spoonful said it best “Did You Ever Have To Make Up Your Mind”

tpoh815 05-10-2025 08:53 AM

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Guys, I'm not bashing this at all. Grateful for It's return. I loved the IHRA supported and ran stock eliminator for 6 years. Liked the structure then and it's even better now but my point is, I cannot support it because of work! No work = no money for racing. Where can I find more info on the Friday and Saturday qualifying? I cannot see anything on the website.

Mike Schwartz 05-10-2025 09:50 AM

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The Pro Snowmobiles will be very popular at GALOT. :rolleyes:

SDmopar 05-10-2025 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MoJo Risen (Post 712261)
You're not very far in the NHRA points hunt as of today. There is a world champion in IHRA and you could do well there.. PLUS, there isn't ANY Junior Dragsters.


I would much rather see Juniors at these than Alcohol. I seriously would be willing to pay double the entry fee if they would remove the Alcohol classes. But honestly in the 6 National events I?ve been to I?ve watched less the 12 pair of Pro cars go down the track. To me it?s like watching someone else play cards. The Alcohol classes are like watching someone shuffle the cards for the pros and dropping them every time while shuffling. Comp Showdown and Factory X are every bit as fun to watch in my opinion.

Pauley 05-10-2025 07:08 PM

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I feel like dawson will drag me along

ep - he shames me in to going places i dont want to go

340Cuda 05-11-2025 01:05 PM

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I wish them the best but I don't know if very many Pro Teams will have the budget to run these races in 2025.

Of course they could skip planned NHRA races to attend these.

MoJo Risen 05-11-2025 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 340Cuda (Post 712305)
I wish them the best but I don't know if very many Pro Teams will have the budget to run these races in 2025.

Of course they could skip planned NHRA races to attend these.

Even one Pro Tean will make a mark in my happiness. #LennyLottig #ChrisHolbrook

e vassar 05-11-2025 10:08 PM

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Please consider some events in the D4 area. We will support them.

Casey Miles 05-12-2025 12:10 AM

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IHRA was a basically a southern organization back in the day, now they have set up for more or less a northern organization which makes it a very long ride to get to one of their races. I hope that they have their sights on the old Atlanta raceway that the last time I passed it could easily be restored to a racetrack again. At least for me, it would be a reasonable tow.
I'm rooting that IHRA becomes very successful with a strong following again so that we have choices where to race. Hopefully puts pressure on NHRA to step up with the purses, which are very low for the entry fees.

Casey Miles
248H
Stock

JP1738 05-12-2025 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 712273)
I'm not in the running at all yet. In fact, I am way behind my original plan. Having choices just adds to my " First World Problems"!!

But isn't it great to have a choice for the first time in a decade? Outside of CCRA for us locally, those races are bad azz.

JP1738 05-12-2025 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pauley (Post 712291)
I feel like dawson will drag me along

ep - he shames me in to going places i dont want to go

I couldn't get you to come to Roxboro with me this past weekend and I think I'm grateful for it. Made two finals in one day but I feel you could have thrown a wrench in things.


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