Air shifters in stock?
It looks like they will allow RPM shifting devices in stock for 2026.
Why do they want us to be like Super Stock? |
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Wow. I had not seen that in the rule book amendments. I could have saved myself a lot of time and effort messing with my auto 1-2 valve body/governor in my th350 this year lol.
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And no clutch shifted 4-speeds.
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I'm going to continue pushing the buttons in my Max Wedge. Air shifter sounds too confusing.
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It already felt like a Stock/Super Stock merger was inevitable. Might as well just give us the transbrake too and get it over with already.
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Also, you've got Stocker guys putting up Y/T videos of them never using the clutch after the launch! I'm told that a true clutchless trans is a better deal, but much more expensive. So there ya go...More goodies for the entry level class LOL |
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2025 rulebook says that pneumatic, rpm controlled shifters are allowed in stock after Jan 1, 2026
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Like Super Stock? They were in Super (0.90) classes and bracket cars before they were in Super Stock. I doubt Super Stock is where they're looking at taking you..... |
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SECTION 11A: STOCK CARS, DRIVETRAIN: 2, TRANSMISSION, AUTOMATIC
(Page 7) (02/25/2025) Any model transmission, same make as car, with a maximum of three forward speeds (unless OEM equipped with more than three forward speeds). O.D. gear not required, reverse permitted. Transmission case must be OEM or aftermarket OEM replica from a standard, automotive application as found in the Official NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. Aftermarket case must meet SFI Spec. 4.1. NHRA-accepted adapter plates permitted. Modifications to shifting patterns are permitted, provided full shift pattern is retained. Full shift pattern must include park and reverse. Any gear change must occur as a result of an internal function of the transmission or from direct action by the driver. Lockup converter permitted if OEM-equipped with lockup converter and OEM transmission is used. Otherwise, lockup converters prohibited. Electronic transmission controls for the electric shifting of automatic transmissions to shift via internal function of the valve body only permitted in computer-controlled vehicles only; may shift by RPM or time only, wires for line lock, wheel speed, driveshaft speed or GPS signal prohibited. Otherwise, any gear change must occur as a result of an internal function of the transmission or from direct action by the driver. Pneumatic, electric, etc. controls in all noncomputer-controlled electronic fuel-injected vehicles prohibited. The use of air assisted or electric shifter is prohibited in all Stock applications. Beginning January 1, 2026, RPM-activated pneumatic, electric shifters permitted. Deepened stock or aftermarket transmission oil pans permitted. Drilling of transmission case or rear of engine block to adapt incompatible units prohibited. Functional neutral safety switch mandatory. Transmission brake prohibited. Tailshaft modifications for bushing replacement, or NHRA-accepted aftermarket tailshaft, permitted. Any car running quicker than 10.99 must be equipped with a transmission shield meeting SFI Spec 4.1 |
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I used the Turbo Action E shift in my LS1 stocker 25 years ago. Made the 1 - 2 shift perfect every time. I think NHRA did this so everyone would have the same level racing world. The pre 97 cars never had the advantage of this. Use it if you want, don't if you want. Dyno
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I run G Force 5 speed transmissions in my 13 Cobra-Jet. When I run in Stock i use the 1 Piece Sliders that are considered Non Clutchless. In a street version they have a 7 degree back cut to hold them in gear. In most stockers we get them with a 0 back cut to allow them to be pulled out of gear under power. Even with that modification it's very difficult to make the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. Most times I over run my intended shift point as it hits the limiter before it unloads the slider and allows to be shifted. The "Clutchless" sliders are split into 2 halves with springs holding them together while in neutral. When a gear is engaged the shift fork pushes one half of the split slider to engage the lugs on the gear. When you make a shift the net gear over rides the RPM the previous gear and that half returns to center on the hub. The hub has 3 roll pins that keep the split halves from over riding the center of the hub. To use Clutchless sliders in my transmission I change 2 sets of hubs and sliders. If one wants to purchase those parts I would guess it would cost about $1,000.00. My clutchless transmission is worth between .05 and .07 over the clutch assisted transmission. Changing nothing but the sliders allows me to shift at optimum RPM. I will sometimes use a Rev Limiter offset per gear to "unload" the sliders in stock. It's slow but seems to be more consistent. When I have been torn down for a National Record they rock the car in several gears to verify that I don't have a clutchless transmission. The split sliders will pop out of gear if you rock the car. The clutch I use is a billet twin disk. With the counter weight at RPM I would break the linkage before I could disengage it LOL. Stick with me for more tips on "Fun with Stick Shift" Robin |
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Might be a way to appeal to more bracket racer crossover....A lot of young racers have never shifted....in brackets they allow air shifters even in footbrake. No box would include transbrake and be the same as superstock for that. Eric |
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Oh yeah, almost forgot, to Mark's point I do believe there are Stockers who are running clutchless transmissions. Robin |
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Okay, I will own this one, and also give you my reason. I can’t say he presented this, but I can say I pitched this to Larry Hodge for about 1.5 years now. I won a div championship with a manually shifted automatic trans. My question is, why is this any different from anything going on now? I suggested an elec.solenoid, not air, but no real difference there. Most everyone is using either e-shift or pressure 1-2, and this just adds cost, and difficulty getting a valve body at times. With controller and solenoid, we can now not worry with exotic valve bodies. Not changing anything we aren?t already doing. There are so many things that are so far removed from when I started in 1997 it blows my mind. I love class racing but the more I do it, the more I realize we are to a place that takes CLASS out of racing. My 2 cents!
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Is a change this big not normally brought to some kind of vote through SRAC or some other kind of public forum?
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Nothing to vote on! This just makes any advantage equal for everyone in all classes.
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My Firebird can use the E-shift and over the years has had that in the car but does not now
The controllers are hard to come by and the trans obviously has to have the correct VB for the E-shift and I don't have either I opted to put an air shifter in my car for bracket racing which is all 1/8th mile anymore... Manually shifting 2 times in an 1/8th mile is a disadvantage I can easily remove the air shifter for NHRA 1/4 mile racing and manually shift as I did when I had this car nearly 20 years ago.... It's no problem in 1/4 mile racing... I do welcome the new rule for 2026 making my air shifter acceptable... |
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NHRA has determined that a Stock racer can't move a lever, but a Pro Stock has to move a shifter going in the mid 6's. Makes sense? Why not cluchless air shifted stick shift cars with magnet released cluches?
Making Stock more basterdized every year. Just my look at it. Casey Miles 248H E/S |
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Sneaking up on roller cams!...
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Some of you are too much, trying to hold onto the past. It?s the year 2025, nothing is like it was 25 years ago no mind 50 years ago and very little of competitive, winning, stock eliminator cars today is stock. Air shifters is just the latest in the evolution of NHRA Stock Eliminator. More changes will come, guaranteed!
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If we are trying to take away an advantage, then why not make every stocker change every gear themselves. No matter what year or trans it has.
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So now older cars don't have to play with governors to have there car auto 1-2 shift. |
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But?..hey, let?s keep the indexes attainable for the rental cars that roll in for grade points! F?ing dipshyts!
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Now you know why I prefer Nostalgia Stock/SuperStock?and yes, I run a stick, and yes, I still use the clutch on gear changes.
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This really is one more change that I just don't get. Driving the car is ALL the fun....
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I am thinking that if you can't at least manually shift an automatic transmission, maybe driving a racecar is not for you.
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