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Chuck Weissberg 02-06-2025 03:28 PM

Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
I was just wondering what would happen if they gave a race and no class racers showed up? NORMA RAE?

NHRA1926 02-06-2025 06:01 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
Boy wouldn't that send a message! I truly believe this is exactly what needs to happen at a NHRA National Event to make the executives realize just how important the Sportsman Racers and Sportsman Classes are for their business. They act like its a privilege for us to attend their events, instead of us being their customers, and wanting to make sure we know that they appreciate our business. It surely seems that they've become numb to the concerns of the Sportsman Class Racers and their concerns. To them, we are just a filler for down time during the pro's maintenance. Entry fees have doubled over the years, and payouts have remained stagnate in comparison. When you get more money for winning a Divisional Event than a National Event, there is something REALLY wrong. Millions of dollars flow into the National Events, Divisional races have a fraction of this kind of money flowing in, but the payout is bigger at the Divisional? How is this possible? I know most of the payout money for the divisional races come from the local track. But can someone explain why there isn't a bigger purse for sportsman racers at the National Events with all that revenue coming in? I remember getting down to the last 5 cars at Atlanta National event, and I only received $250! That didn't even cover the cost of the entry fee of the event! Again, how can that be justified?

Tim Barrett 02-06-2025 06:57 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
There's an old saying that says,Enjoy what you have today,,cause it won't last forever. This is a prime example of how things change from the good old days to what exists today. When you have people running the show that really know nothing about the Sport and run it the way they want,,then we'll see a slow partial demise. They wouldn't miss the Sportsman, I think the only thing that's saving us right now are the support companies that Dragracers like me use that support those people at the top. There will always be a Sportsman show at National Events for now,,but I think Divisional races will be the major events for Dragracers who love that type of Dragracing. Linda and I will keep doing it,,for a cpl more years anyway,and when we retire,,we can enjoy our accomplishments and success.
Just listened to an interview with the Stock Eliminator World Champion. One thing he said that I've said and believe in,,
"We don't go to a Dragrace to Party,,We Goes to WIN!! And it works.
NHRA Sportsman Dragracing will be around for quite a few more years,,but we have to deal with what we are offered for us.

Jim Caughlin 02-06-2025 07:04 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
Man, you are living in a dream world. Hate to be Debby Downer here but NHRA would love to replace Stock and SS with twice as many Top Sportsman and Top Dragster entries that require minimal tech and don't whine as much. The average spectator at a national event wouldn't even notice that we are gone. Be careful what you wish for.

Jim Caughlin
SS6019

63corvette 02-06-2025 07:04 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
Most of the increases of entry?s over the years comes from the insurance costs.
Not many know and it is not publicized that the Sportsmen entry fees cover the entire events insurance coverage.
When you enter a National the cost is broken down for entry and insurance. Most think that insurance is for the racers and it does cover them but it also covers everyone on the property during the event. Spectators and everyone else. Most don?t realize that.
After the spectator lost her life at Phoenix/Chanler AZ a few years ago the entry fees went up the following year.
Just my 2 cents.
Rick Cates
Canyon,TX

1320racer 02-06-2025 07:17 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 709175)
Man, you are living in a dream world. Hate to be Debby Downer here but NHRA would love to replace Stock and SS with twice as many Top Sportsman and Top Dragster entries that require minimal tech and don't whine as much. The average spectator at a national event wouldn't even notice that we are gone. Be careful what you wish for.

Jim Caughlin
SS6019

quoted for the TRUTH and the FACTS!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Barrett (Post 709174)
"We don't go to a Dragrace to Party,,We Goes to WIN!! .

EXACTLY!

Jeff Stout 02-06-2025 07:23 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
Worked in FL. with the muffler deal. Blocked the outside gate and worked it out.

Lyn Smith 02-06-2025 07:28 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
[QUOTE=Jim Caughlin;709175]Man, you are living in a dream world. Hate to be Debby Downer here but NHRA would love to replace Stock and SS with twice as many Top Sportsman and Top Dragster entries that require minimal tech and don't whine as much. The average spectator at a national event wouldn't even notice that we are gone. Be careful what you wish for.

I love to see those Top cars who you say are going to replace Stock trying to get down the track at the US Nationals at 7am.LOL

Jim Caughlin 02-06-2025 07:39 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
[QUOTE=Lyn Smith;709179]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 709175)
Man, you are living in a dream world. Hate to be Debby Downer here but NHRA would love to replace Stock and SS with twice as many Top Sportsman and Top Dragster entries that require minimal tech and don't whine as much. The average spectator at a national event wouldn't even notice that we are gone. Be careful what you wish for.

I love to see those Top cars who you say are going to replace Stock trying to get down the track at the US Nationals at 7am.LOL

Ok, then throw in Super Street instead, they have to go out first most of the time at Divisionals anyway so they won't mind. Just saying plenty of filler material dog and pony show stuff to take our place. As far as that goes, without us they can just sleep in and not start at 7AM! Win Win for them.

1320racer 02-06-2025 07:50 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 709180)
without us they can just sleep in and not start at 7AM! Win Win for them.

EXACTLY, they won't miss the crybabies.

Mark Yacavone 02-06-2025 07:52 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 709180)

Ok, then throw in Super Street instead, they have to go out first most of the time at Divisionals anyway so they won't mind. Just saying plenty of filler material dog and pony show stuff to take our place. As far as that goes, without us they can just sleep in and not start at 7AM! Win Win for them.

Yup, ..and next year the quota will be 30...maybe 20 ;-)

Nick Heath 02-06-2025 08:04 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
[QUOTE=Mark Yacavone;709182]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 709180)

Yup, ..and next year the quota will be 30...maybe 20 ;-)

Was wondering when someone would mention the Q word :)

tstickff 02-06-2025 09:24 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
Man I hate to say it but this is a dumb post. If you don?t want to race NHRA then don?t! Stay home! No one is forcing you to show up. That would be a quick way to kill the sportsman classes at an event I can assure you that. And with tracks disappearing as we speak why would we do that?

First off you have to pay to enter the event before hand, so your saying we should pay the 350 whatever to enter then not show up? Stupid! NHRA would laugh all the way to the bank?..and it?s just stupid! Didn?t mention stupid? Ok wasn?t sure.

Stay home and mow the lawn and enjoy your life, maybe find another hobby idk?.

Tim Stickles

Lyn Smith 02-07-2025 12:21 AM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chuck Weissberg 02-07-2025 12:19 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
[QUOTE=tstickff;709185]Man I hate to say it but this is a dumb post. If you don?t want to race NHRA then don?t! Stay home! No one is forcing you to show up. That would be a quick way to kill the sportsman classes at an event I can assure you that. And with tracks disappearing as we speak why would we do that?

First off you have to pay to enter the event before hand, so your saying we should pay the 350 whatever to enter then not show up? Stupid! NHRA would laugh all the way to the bank?..and it?s just stupid! Didn?t mention stupid? Ok wasn?t sure.

Stay home and mow the lawn and enjoy your life, maybe find another hobby idk?.


You are taking a GIANT leap as to interpretation...never said pay and not attend....,just throwing out the concept as I see so much complaining @ quotas and payouts etc I just saw a newer post with people COMPLAINING about payouts for stock again...complaining is not gonna change the situration

Tim Barrett 02-07-2025 12:33 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tstickff (Post 709185)
Man I hate to say it but this is a dumb post. If you don?t want to race NHRA then don?t! Stay home! No one is forcing you to show up. That would be a quick way to kill the sportsman classes at an event I can assure you that. And with tracks disappearing as we speak why would we do that?

First off you have to pay to enter the event before hand, so your saying we should pay the 350 whatever to enter then not show up? Stupid! NHRA would laugh all the way to the bank?..and it?s just stupid! Didn?t mention stupid? Ok wasn?t sure.

Stay home and mow the lawn and enjoy your life, maybe find another hobby idk?.

Tim Stickles

Tim you said it exactly right!! I've roughly,added what Linda and I have spent and invested in our great sport over the past 5 years and the average person would think we were RICH or plum stupid!! Are we crazy,maybe,crazy in love with NHRA Sportsman Dragracing YES!! So the well into the 6 digits of $$$$ spending has truly paid off for us,,100%!! Plus the many friends we have made over these years are priceless.
I would imagine there's a rule in the rule book about doing something like this.
Meanwhile I have to get my butt going to get ready for Gainsville in 2 weeks.
Anyone have extra $$$$$?? We need a good sponsor.

Tim and Linda Barrett
Stock Eliminator 1925

Mark Yacavone 02-07-2025 01:06 PM

Re: Suppose they gave a race and nobody came
 
[QUOTE=Mark Yacavone;709182]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 709180)

Yup, ..and next year the quota will be 30...maybe 20 ;-)

Apologies to Lyn Smith
I was quoting Jim Caughlin,...not Lyn


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