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whats the average entry $ for low class 'Stock' for a nhra divisional single race? not a double weekend 2 race deal.

thanks Rod in AZ

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$300.00 or more depending
on where you are.

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I think every Division is different in their cost - in D1 we pay $225 plus $85 crew to win $2,000. I wouldn't be shocked if the entry goes up a little after the meeting this week in the Poconos, I know a few tracks are saying they don't make any $$$ on the divisional races when you have to pay out the Alky classes, so I guess we shall see.

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Believe it's $180 in D2. I travel lite with no crew and an open trailer so it ain't too bad. Try to find a friend to couch surf with at the track (Thanks dad/JJ Brock/Don Shuford) :D

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Meanwhile, I can pay an $80 entry to race for $2,000 to win in Top Bulb or $60 entry for $1,500 to win in Bottom Bulb each day, Saturday and Sunday from April through September at my home track, so there's no good reason to travel to mostly sit for days, either in a field waiting to park or waiting to make a pass with the NHRA circus yet some here want to know why I don't race stock eliminator.:rolleyes:

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Fair, but class racing really isn't about the money. Comparing local bracket racing to class racing is like apples to oranges. I too can go run for 2k-2500 locally and it is as hard or harder to win those races, but it's like a different sport altogether.

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Without question it's harder because because as a whole bracket racers have more talent, more skill at both ends, whereas there are lots more ducks in class racing and if class racing isn't about the $ what is it about, that cheap meaningless trophy?

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It means a lot to the people that it means a lot to. It seems to be lost on you and that's ok. If I went out and won a golf tournament, got a trophy and a check for my troubles, that honor and prestige would be lost on people who don't golf or think it's a silly time-suck. Same goes with Class racing. The people who enjoy it appreciate the effort that goes in to winning one and it means the world to them. You don't really class race and don't find the honor in pursuing it, so I wouldn't expect you to feel the same way about it that myself and the rest of us on CR do.

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As you know, we've raced Super Comp and KILLED it, raced Super Street and did very well. In 5 years, won the division with the most points ever, finished #2 twice in the division, Jegs Allstar, 2 National event finals, won one and finished #4 in the world. Oh yea, we've got several of those meaningless trophies too.:D

That said, don't know if or when we will compete on the circus tour again. Kind of been there done that and my son is very busy growing his business and preparing for his life ahead, just got engaged last month.

Also the amount of money we have, can win in a single season is more than most every class racers could win in a lifetime.

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And clearly you've lost the zeal enjoyed by the many who still chase the championship, so I stand by my comment. You don't care about it, so it means nothing to you. Potato Pototo.

Also a lot of "we" in that comment and not a lot of "I". Easy to crew chief a car and have a callous attitude towards this brand of racing despite vicarious success in it.

Congrats to your son on owning a business and getting engaged, that's fantastic. Wish nothing but the best for you and yours

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Many that competed against us class racing have said WE make a very good team that is hard to beat. I taught my son every thing he knows and he is an exceptional student. I gave him 2 top shelf cars that I prepare, I tune, I maintain, that if they are not the best on the property wherever we race, they are amongst the best. My son doesn't win without ME.

That said, I never had the "zeal" to class race, my son wanted to try Super Comp so I invested my time and $ preparing the car and him and the result was he did very well but he doesn't care now if we class race again, it's up to me. If/when I decided to, it only happens with his commitment to compete for the championship. We are not those guys that show up for an event or two, when they have nothing better to do to "have fun"

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There is a lot to unpack there, lol. But it explains a lot.

So, if I'm understanding your comment the way it's written, your son does not work on the cars or have anything invested in his racing opportunity other than showing up with a helmet? Kinda sad. I feel like most people here would agree that races are won in the shop/garage before you ever make it to the race track. The passion of being a gear head is what makes drag racing (and class racing even more so IMO) so much fun, and it doesn't sound like your son has that. It appears that you take that aspect of it seriously as we all should, but what a bummer to own nothing and have everything provided for you. From what I've heard from people close to your son, he really doesn't care anything about drag racing and wouldn't compete were it not for you and I think I just found out why.

I'm grateful and proud to say I own everything I have and receive little to no financial assistance. My dad helps me sling wrenches occasionally but it's something we've always done together and I cherish it. I owe my success to my teacher as well, but standing in the winner's circle in front of a car I built, prepared, and tuned brings me so much joy and pride. It doesn't sound like your son has that at all and I hate that for him. Winning is great, but winning with something you poured your heart and soul in is so much better.

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Your words, your assumptions that I will set straigfht

You clearly are NOT understanding my comments, those are your words not mine. My son does in fact work on the cars. Besides the weekly maintenance, a few years ago, he was competing in a big $ event without me and hurt the engine. Rather than packing up and going home, he pulled the engine, and installed our spare not only without me, but without any help! That said, working on the cars is not fun and I've been doing for over 50 years but I do it because back in the day I couldn't afford to pay someone and now because there are few, really only 2 that I trust to work on my race cars. Last, FYI, the best at what we do will tell you he is the furthest thing from a gearhead and that without other people working on his race cars he wouldn't be who he is.


and you've heard wrong, you're talking to the jealous haters. My son is very competitive, puts the work in to be the best at everything he does, there is no half assed effort, there is no it's good enough that's why he races and that's why he will be a millionaire within 2 years!

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Ok, thank you for helping me understand. I hope you can see where I was going based on your prior post. You made it seem like you do it all and he did nothing. If that's not the case, I'll take your word for it.

Anyway class racing is expensive but I participate because I like it. :)

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There are a few things I like about the circus tour but more I don't like starting with having to showing up a day(s) in advance of the event to get a decent pit spot.

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Now that, we can agree on. I wish those races were set-up more like the old IHRA pro-ams where everything happens in a day or two. Get in, get it on, get it done. I try my best to spend no more time at the track than absolutely necessary. Not that I don't enjoy being at the races, but I came to the track to do just that: race. I'll show up the morning of or the night before if it's a long ride, park where I park, and start the show. I know there are a lot of cars and classes at these races, but 3-4 days for one race just seems ludacris.

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You two guys seem to have a lot to talk about. Why don't you exchange phone numbers and stop talking about bracket racing on the Stock/ Super Stock page?

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that's a hard NO and what should we talk about, gofundme handouts, another racer's passing that no one posts in the right forum, winter storms, sex, Californias fires, cancer?

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Interesting in that the main contributor in most of these off topic threads is you. :eek:


Stan

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WRONG as usual you're a clueless old man

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No bracket boy.
Stock / Super Stock racing. Please refer to the Bracket Racing page.
Maybe you can reconnect with some of your many victims being that NHRA Sportsman racing is no longer a challenge for your team.

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no frankie, I like it right here. That said, you never had victims cause you didn't do diddy squat on the track.:p

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Neither have you.
If it weren't for Kyle no one would know your name than your former admiring friends on Yellow Bullet.
Yes, I never was a champion but I won my fair share of rounds against the best D1 had to offer.

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Wrong as usual Frankie, you’re a loser, I’m a winner in life and racing. You were an also ran on the track and in life :p

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It's like speaking to Eddie Haskell from "Leave it to Beaver".

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Or possibly Beavis?

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Frankie you?re a pathetic loser waiting to die in South Carolina.

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This is why Alky cars should be a National event only classes.

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That is the SPIRIT of racing in general and I love it! Nothing is more satisfying that on track successes with a machine that you built with your own two hands....

Two thoughts, DP, I LOVE your drive. Racing Paw-Paw's car and putting the stocker in play are exactly what I'm talking about. Doing whatever it takes to make it to the next race. You should be very proud of yourself and know I admire the sh!t outta your efforts. When you had issues at Charlotte and loaded up and tested somewhere else then came back for R1 the next morning.... commendable to say the least!

I love this stocker stuff. I've raced everything from Outlaw 10.5, T/S, T/D, Super classes, and other assorted heads up classes with decent success and I'll unequivocally say this is the most challenging thing I've tackled in racing. Going fast and making your car uber consistent using mostly 50+ year old technology and parts is an exercise in mad geniusness, fabrication, ultra tinkering, and just plain trial and error. When it all comes together it's a damn good feeling!

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PS. Div2 is $180 and I think a crew is $50.

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Ed,
If you have the wellness of mine at my age without a Pancreas, Spleen and Gall Bladder you're doing well. I have much to live for you POS.

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To me it's still a hobby, I work hard during the week so as long as I can get the heck away for 3 days and if I win a round or win the event I have a trophy at the end of the weekend to show to all the ladies...lol

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of course it's a hobby for all, there's no one competing in the NHRA/LODRS making a living doing this NO ONE!

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you're still a loser and

https://i.imgur.com/TquoMbSl.jpg

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I pay $100 to race for $2,000 at local combo events 8 or 10 times a year and maybe a couple division and open events a year. Not interested in joining the traveling road circus. Started bracket racing in 1980, built several winning bracket cars, several track championships and the occasional cheap trophy from 10.90 racing. A couple years ago I wanted to try Stock eliminator. Grew up around it and always respected the class racers. Now that I'm older and don't want to chase the be at the track every time it's open and financially able to field a competitive stocker. I'm enjoying racing 15 or so times a year and earning the respect of class racers.

Oh div. 3 entry is $180 I think.

Tom Flowers
3860 E/SA

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Your last sentence says it all. That's what it's about.


Tom Flowers
3860 E/SA

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I've poured my heart, soul and $ into every race car I've owned and built starting with my '68 Chevelle that I purchased from the original owner in 1982 with 39,000 miles and was a street car long before I made it a bracket car and the best of it's kind in the country, more stock than any stocker and 60 footed quicker than any stocker Chevelle/GM A Body.

https://youtu.be/rbKYio6OvKM?si=Np9BMgYAsTcOECXg

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You're a legend in your own mind. Swim in the adult end of the pool and see if your don't drown.

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I've been pretty busy lately, but it's nice to see the cheap entertainment continuing on CR. As always, the cheapest of cheap entertainment comes from 1320/1290; always coming up short in many ways! :D

1700/781L :)

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No, this is tracks not putting effort into promoting a show that they are paying for...either bring in a better negotiator or a better marketer.