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Chuck Weissberg 01-01-2025 02:10 PM

Why Stockers First
 
This may have been answered before BUT why are the Stockers the first down the track at the major meets?

J.R. Haddad 01-01-2025 02:45 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
I would guess that we have the least H.P. and they can send us with the
least chance of an incident. We then provide a better tractioned and warm
track for the cars following us. We are then followed by cars based on traction requirements and risk assessment.

J.R.

CMcAllister 01-01-2025 03:21 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad (Post 707490)
I would guess that we have the least H.P. and they can send us with the
least chance of an incident. We then provide a better tractioned and warm
track for the cars following us. We are then followed by cars based on traction requirements and risk assessment.

J.R.

Yet the fuel cars are typically first out on Sunday.

Somebody has to go first. Used to be Super Street at the races they were at.

Probably more to do with not running classes back to back that have to weigh and check fuel.

Alan Roehrich 01-01-2025 03:54 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Alarm Stock.

Chuck Weissberg 01-01-2025 08:12 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
[QUOTE=J.R. Haddad;707490]I would guess that we have the least H.P. and they can send us with the
least chance of an incident




Least HP? tell that to the Factory Stockers running in the low 9's etc

Alan Roehrich 01-01-2025 09:02 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
[QUOTE=Chuck Weissberg;707501]
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad (Post 707490)
I would guess that we have the least H.P. and they can send us with the
least chance of an incident




Least HP? tell that to the Factory Stockers running in the low 9's etc




Well, NHRA is thinking about the nineteen-nineties. Can't you tell by the purse?

James Perrone 01-02-2025 09:53 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Because the crybaby throttle stop classes say it unsafe for them to go out
By the way stock has cars going 170 mph on 9 inch tires

1320racer 01-02-2025 09:57 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Nah, it’s because the “fans” have packed the stands by 8:00am to see stock eliminator.

and stock has more than a few turds that can’t run 100mph too.

Stan Weiss 01-02-2025 10:53 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707515)
Nah, it?s because the ?fans? have packed the stands by 8:00am to see stock eliminator.

and stock has more than a few turds that can?t run 100mph too.


They maybe slow but at least the people in the stands understand what is going on during their run.

Much hard to understand a car leaving hard maybe even wheel standing, and then dropping dead for a couple of seconds before it accelerates again to run a slow et with a big MPH.

Stan

1320racer 01-02-2025 10:55 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
There are no fans in the stands at LODRS divisionals!

JP1738 01-02-2025 11:56 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Stockers are first when SST are not contested at Nats. Otherwise at all national events and divisionals, SST is first. I'm guessing the theory is the same with other comments. Lower hp, bigger tire, least likely to have incident do to cold/marginal race track.

KennyAnderson 01-02-2025 12:23 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707515)
Nah, it?s because the ?fans? have packed the stands by 8:00am to see stock eliminator.

and stock has more than a few turds that can?t run 100mph too.

"A few turds".... Making friends in the New Year already.:eek::eek::eek:

bsimms89 01-02-2025 12:33 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
[QUOTE=Chuck Weissberg;707501]
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad (Post 707490)
I would guess that we have the least H.P. and they can send us with the
least chance of an incident




Least HP? tell that to the Factory Stockers running in the low 9's etc

Would've preferred stock not to have been the first out at Maple Grove this past October, our class was running 8.10s, and it was still in the 40s at 9am. But we know going in that we're first up, just have to plan accordingly.

JP1738 01-02-2025 03:44 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Weissberg (Post 707501)

Would've preferred stock not to have been the first out at Maple Grove this past October, our class was running 8.10s, and it was still in the 40s at 9am. But we know going in that we're first up, just have to plan accordingly.

I actually appreciate the perspective here. I have no sympathy for folks trying to go 175+ in SG trim that complain they can't get down on a marginal track, or factory stockers trying to go 140+ on a 9 inch tire. That's your choice, figure it out.

Pauley 01-02-2025 04:18 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
It doesn?t matter when stockers run. I am always parked beside the stocker guy who warms up at 6am and then floods my pit when he changes his water.

ep

1320racer 01-02-2025 04:41 PM

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All that to be a 1st round runner up :D

JP1738 01-02-2025 05:04 PM

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Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.

Rose Racing 01-05-2025 08:48 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707515)
Nah, it?s because the ?fans? have packed the stands by 8:00am to see stock eliminator.

and stock has more than a few turds that can?t run 100mph too.

Says the guy with the bracket turd turning XXX 60ft with Maxima Oil and NO Amalie oil on these tires and Mobil gear oil that hes been running for 35 years winning wallys and world championships..... Takes a real dude to call somebody elses car a turd..... jerk

outlaw 01-05-2025 09:37 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Stock and super stock are my favorite classes because beautiful cars and the wheels up leaves. As long as a car sounds like it’s doing all it can do from the time the light turns green to the top end I don’t mind watching the slower cars I can’t stand watching throttle stop cars.
Terry

1320racer 01-05-2025 09:42 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose Racing (Post 707661)
Takes a real dude to call somebody elses car a turd..... jerk

sales the nobody with a turd!

Rose Racing 01-05-2025 11:11 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707665)
sales the nobody with a turd!

This nobody with a turd can kick ur ***** down the 1320 anytime you wanna try it.....I have scalped alot tougher hombre's than you...Blowhard I bet you couldn't be dead on if ur nuts depended on it

1700camaro 01-06-2025 12:18 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose Racing (Post 707668)
This nobody with a turd can kick ur ***** down the 1320 anytime you wanna try it.....I have scalped alot tougher hombre's than you...Blowhard I bet you couldn't be dead on if ur nuts depended on it

He's not a tough hombre & nothing but a blowhard top keyboard racer. ;) 1290racer is clueless on both ends of the track!

His son has the talent & he has little to no talent. He's great at riding on his son's coattails.

1700/781L :)

1320racer 01-06-2025 05:40 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose Racing (Post 707668)
This nobody with a turd can kick ur ***** down the 1320 anytime you wanna try it.....I have scalped alot tougher hombre's than you...Blowhard I bet you couldn't be dead on if ur nuts depended on it

anytime you think you have the skills son I'm easy to find!

1:05:35

https://www.youtube.com/live/-S6VSPs...5EGXKxMh9H0SVF

Maverick 01-06-2025 07:22 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Just remember every first pair of super comp or super gas racers is normally following a pair of cars not required to have oil containment devices. And if they glue the track, the first pair is taking a chance to getting down the track. Steve Williams 351N S/G.

Cglrcng 01-06-2025 09:17 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyAnderson (Post 707526)
"A few turds".... Making friends in the New Year already.:eek::eek::eek:

Yeah, I was about the only 1 left he had not been to war yet with, my turn was coming. But, my last race week at Thanksgiving racing against a lot of quite fast cars turned out so favorably, that I have fully embraced the slow go, as long as I turn on lotsa win lights.

Beg Edly is the very least of my worries today.

Jon & John Irving I am headed your way the end of this month sirs as I need a trailer soon to hook up to an F-150 in my garage. I'll give you a call unless you are going to test in Vegas on the 24th.

As soon as I figure out the last few wires of the ignition and fire it up on the Terminator X and start the learn sequence I am going to be tap, tapping a new tune and dancing a little bit faster this year I hope.

So, even Ed cannot dampen my 2025 spirits. 7K RPM shift points are going to be sweet to accomplish and work up to.

I am the most nocturnal night owl who hates 8:00 AM starts....Unless it is a race day. Heck, it is now 6:08 AM, been working on the racecar and truck all night and now am ready to go to bed.

Good night Ed...lmao. "Slow Ride...Take it easy..." Anytime you want to shoe polish race Ed (yeah I know you have a fast car with all the electronics, maybe you might wanna come out for the Spring Fling?) Maybe put a little cash behind that fast mouth of yours.

Ralph A Powell 01-06-2025 09:27 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Track cleaners!

1320racer 01-06-2025 09:50 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cglrcng (Post 707675)
maybe you might wanna come out for the Spring Fling?) Maybe put a little cash behind that fast mouth of yours.

ABSOLUTELY!!

We will be at the Flings this season, look forward to you staging your junk against my Firebird.

Cglrcng 01-06-2025 09:53 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
There is nothing like being the first pr. out there to qualify in crisp cool air though and knowing no matter how cold it is outside you are going to hook hard on that freshly prepped track.

But, then again I can hook my turtle up in a snowstorm.

And Ed, think really hard about your response please. It was meant for you specifically in the driver's seat (not your Son), because if you can't beat someone doing just over 60 in the 8th, or just under 80 in the 1/4, they will laugh at you for the rest of your days.

2 of 3, 3/5...we can even hot lap em w/ 10 min turnarounds. After 5 I'll need to actually add fuel.

Cglrcng 01-06-2025 09:58 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707680)
ABSOLUTELY!!

We will be at the Flings this season, look forward to you staging your junk against my Firebird.

Good, you will think I am stopped/broke at the 660' finish line. Hmmm, what line...there is no actual line.

Actually, they do snap a chalk line down there, but I am the only 1 going slow enough to actually see it.

1320racer 01-06-2025 10:02 AM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
You don’t get best 2 out of 3 at any event and you’re not going to get it when you stage your junk against me! $1,000 for one shot, now put up or shut up!

JP1738 01-06-2025 12:14 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707684)
You don?t get best 2 out of 3 at any event and you?re not going to get it when you stage your junk against me! $1,000 for one shot, now put up or shut up!

This I gotta see.

Also, unrelated note, stop saying you have a SS car. You have a former SS car. It's cool and probably still has most if not all SS parts it needed to be legal minus the power-train combo, don't get me wrong, but you you saying you have a SS car is like saying my RX7 is a rotary car. Sure, the car had a rotary in it at one time, but it's a long way from that anymore.

KennyAnderson 01-06-2025 12:25 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707684)
You don?t get best 2 out of 3 at any event and you?re not going to get it when you stage your junk against me! $1,000 for one shot, now put up or shut up!

Love It! In years past on sites like DRR Big Head Ed has been challenged to "1k a lap till you can't pay attention" by bracket racers of all skill levels.......... Crickets. Not 1 race ever happened. Now he is over here on CR picking on slow stocker guys like a sandbox gangster!!!:D:D:D

1320racer 01-06-2025 12:32 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
WRONG! Not one has ever shown up no mind put money up and staged their car, not one!

Again, I’m easy to find every week during the season. If we’re not racing at our home track. we’re racing at one of the flings or LODRS events.

1320racer 01-06-2025 12:36 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 707700)

stop saying you have a SS car. You have a former SS car.

I won’t and I do.

My car is a purpose built, legal Super Stock car.

JP1738 01-06-2025 12:42 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707708)
I won?t and I do.

My car is a purpose built, legal Super Stock car.

Do you believe Corvette roadsters are really corvettes too?! :D

1320racer 01-06-2025 12:45 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
They never rolled off the GM assembly line, my Firebird did and further was raced as a stocker from birth.

JP1738 01-06-2025 12:50 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707710)
They never rolled off the GM assembly line, my Firebird did and further was raced as a stocker from birth.

And my RX7 left the assembly line with a rotary. It's not a rotary car anymore.

I'm pretty sure 100% of CR would agree that there is more to a SS car than having big tires and a full interior lol. If it doesn't have a SS engine combo, it's not a SS car. It was, and that's great. But at this moment in time, my '93 Ford Festiva is more of a stocker than your firebird lol.:D:D:D

You have a big tire bracket car, and that's cool. It could even run SS again. Not a SS car now though.

1320racer 01-06-2025 12:57 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Your opinion, mine is all that counts but every class racer that knows of the car and it’s former campaign refers to it as a super stocker and not just any super stocker but the best of its kind as well the best 4th gen Fbody Super Stocker to come out of MPR and the lightest.

Pauley 01-06-2025 02:15 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
1290s firebird is very sweet. i raced against it one time at vmp.

ep

1320racer 01-06-2025 02:18 PM

Re: Why Stockers First
 
Ty. Yea and beat that young boys azz on your way not only to the win but doubling up that weekend.


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