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j gardiner 12-14-2024 09:01 PM

IHRA going back to class racing
 
Any thoughts, or does anyone care?

Frank Castros 12-14-2024 09:30 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
The more Class Racing the better. However, how will the integrity of the category be legitimized?

If the IHRA wants to make a hit, hire the best of the Technical and lane management people as possible and above all PAYOUT! Value for entry is critical.
In reality its not a Wally, but when you think about it, you'll see that most of the same racers will be there IF it's value based.
Determine your own priority.

Lyn Smith 12-14-2024 09:47 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
I must have missed that. I read the story and it says top fuel, funny car, pro stock etc. but not any sportsmen classes. They are paying great for the bracket races at the world finals with even the jr dragster classes running for $12,500 for the world champion.

Rose Racing 12-14-2024 10:18 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
We will support the IHRA as long as the travel makes sense. I want this series to survive and thrive. I support and believe in Larry Jeffers,Kenny Knowling and IHRA. I think Jim Bailey would be a great hire for IHRA Stock, Super Stock tech.

j gardiner 12-14-2024 11:07 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Check out the video, he says there will be pro-am races with all the old IHRA classes , plus 3 nitro jam races.

JGarey 12-14-2024 11:44 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Back in early 2000's, I attended both nhra and ihra in div. 4 and entered in stock, I was always shocked how few nhra racers would go to an ihra race even though entries and payouts were the same.
Both entities need the racers support, especially the underdog.

Keith 944 12-15-2024 11:34 AM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Does the north east division even have any IHRA tracks left?

1320racer 12-15-2024 12:22 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
NHRA racers do not, will not support this clown show known as IHRA. It will be short lived again!

Pauley 12-15-2024 12:33 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
I will support it if at all possible. But i am with Keith on the track situation. I figure Darlington will get something i will go to.

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Jeff Niceswanger 12-15-2024 01:09 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Where did you guys see this? All I can locate is IHRA intendeds to get back to Class Cars. I understand that to mean their wanting to transition from an all Bracket racing series to one that includes class cars. I don't think their talking about Stock and Superstock.. Or Comp. Specifically, "three IHRA Nitro Jam events will take place in 2025 headlined by Top Fuel, Funny Car, Pro Mod and Mountain Motor Pro Stock Classes with zero entry fees for all of the Classes."

j gardiner 12-15-2024 04:47 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Go to the IHRA Facebook page, they made an announcement at PRI yesterday.

mcashman 12-15-2024 06:42 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith 944 (Post 706820)
Does the north east division even have any IHRA tracks left?

Capitol Raceway in Crofton Md

Keith 944 12-15-2024 07:41 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcashman (Post 706850)
Capitol Raceway in Crofton Md

They had a pro-am there once I believe it was a flood and not enough room. I didn?t know they were up and running again, that would be great

SDmopar 12-15-2024 11:01 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
It?s great to have another dog in the fight. The NHRA has slowly been telling us how important we are in their business model. Quotas and more non class?s at Nationals. Limited tech and limited payouts and very few races that contest class. Some of you need to realize that you?re stuck in an abusive relationship. And the more abuse you accept the rougher it will get.

I?m fortunate to be able to race with the best association in the country and class racing will remain strong here. We also have a growing number of IHRA tracks. With the loss of NMCA we should realize that every track and event could use our support. If we as a Class racers supported our fellow racers, tracks, and events the opportunities would grow for us.

BKSG1198 12-16-2024 07:11 AM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith 944 (Post 706852)
They had a pro-am there once I believe it was a flood and not enough room. I didn?t know they were up and running again, that would be great

Capitol is the highest north they come in D1, if heard from a few racers that run there it?s basically a grudge track now and somewhat unorganized, hopefully this announcement helps but for the most part all the IHRA D1 tracks disappeared (Richmond) or went to WDRA (MIR, US13, Keystone, Empire, Etc). So the D1 (or D3 as it?s called now) Capitol, Custom T?s, Dragway 42, Kuhnle Raceway Park, Pacemakers and Quaker City.

1320racer 12-16-2024 07:13 AM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
it's known more for it's shootings!

JP1738 12-16-2024 08:33 AM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Just for clarification, there will be no pro-ams next year, just the three nitro jams with all the original classes (TD, TS, STK, SS, HR, SR, QR, JRS) and pro categories. The idea is to show potential marketing partners, track partners, and racers what IHRA class racing and national events would look like to get further support for a full class racing schedule in 2026. And to hand out the first of the original Iron Men.

I think it's great and will attend any race or nitro jam that's within 10 hours.

I haven't seen any specifics, but I really hope they return to all the original IHRA class indexes for 1/8th mile. No more of this 6.30 and 6.90 bull****. I want Super Rod to run 6.40 and Hot Rod to on a 7.00 index the God intended.

Mike Taylor 3601 12-16-2024 11:17 AM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
IHRA was great back in the day...I think they could be headed the right direction....I wasn't sure how they would get it going or if they would be able to . I was there when they made the announcement at PRI,ended up I was standing close to guy Darrell that owns the company sponsoring IHRA, was a regular guy, I would have never guessed and didn't... as I stood a few feet from him, he would be introduced as their multi million $$ sponsor.
I'm racing stock and super stock where I can have the most fun, the least time off work and if lucky enough to win.... win the most money

FLEMING 12-16-2024 04:46 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
I am hopefully optimistic.. its a huge undertaking.. alot of planning.. nothing i would rather see happen than to get back to the way things used to be..

Rose Racing 12-16-2024 08:40 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 706860)
Just for clarification, there will be no pro-ams next year, just the three nitro jams with all the original classes (TD, TS, STK, SS, HR, SR, QR, JRS) and pro categories. The idea is to show potential marketing partners, track partners, and racers what IHRA class racing and national events would look like to get further support for a full class racing schedule in 2026. And to hand out the first of the original Iron Men.

I think it's great and will attend any race or nitro jam that's within 10 hours.

I haven't seen any specifics, but I really hope they return to all the original IHRA class indexes for 1/8th mile. No more of this 6.30 and 6.90 bull****. I want Super Rod to run 6.40 and Hot Rod to on a 7.00 index the God intended.

Hey Dawson I wonder where the Nitro Jams are gonna be held and I would imagine1/8 mile?

JP1738 12-18-2024 03:09 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
I'm really not sure, honestly. I'd have to imagine Darlington Dragway would get one. Outside of that, IHRA has 15 more 1/4 mile tracks in their roster, so they'll have a few to choose from. They don't really have any 1/4 mile options within spitting distance of me outside of Darlington, but several in the Midwest and Texas. Here's a few more options:

Muncie Dragway
Albany, IN

US 41 Dragstrip
Morocco, IN

State Capitol Raceway
Port Allen, LA

Capitol Raceway
Gambrills, MD

Albuquerque Dragway
Albuquerque, NM

Dragway 42
West Salem, OH

Quaker City Motorsports Park
Salem, OH

Kuhnle Motorsports Park
Thompson, OH

Kil-Kare Raceway
Xenia, OH

Edinburg Motorsports Park
Edinburg, TX

Penwell Knights Raceway
Odessa, TX

Great Lakes Dragway
Union Grove, WI

Wisconsin International Raceway
Kaukauna, WI

Model T 12-18-2024 04:24 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
At one time Rockingham was IHRA. They have been making a lot of improvements (restrooms, showers, timing system and paving) at the track with new owners. Don't know their NHRA contract but that might be one that would jump back to IHRA.

Steve Stasko 12-18-2024 04:36 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 706982)
I'm really not sure, honestly. I'd have to imagine Darlington Dragway would get one. Outside of that, IHRA has 15 more 1/4 mile tracks in their roster, so they'll have a few to choose from. They don't really have any 1/4 mile options within spitting distance of me outside of Darlington, but several in the Midwest and Texas. Here's a few more options:

Kil Kare and 42 barely have enough shutdown for 9 second cars running the 1/4 without standing on the brakes. The hill at Quaker is prohibitive to 275"+ wheelbase cars...they scrape.

US41 and State Capitol held IHRA Nationals in the past, I believe WIR might have too? I think you're going to see IHRA embrace 1/8th mile Nitro racing again.

Dan Fahey 12-18-2024 04:38 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Video Announcement - Stock and Super Stock

https://www.facebook.com/IHRAMotorsp...98039791806700

JP1738 12-18-2024 04:46 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko (Post 706984)
Kil Kare and 42 barely have enough shutdown for 9 second cars running the 1/4 without standing on the brakes. The hill at Quaker is prohibitive to 275"+ wheelbase cars...they scrape.

US41 and State Capitol held IHRA Nationals in the past, I believe WIR might have too? I think you're going to see IHRA embrace 1/8th mile Nitro racing again.

Maybe so. I don't have personal experience with any of these tracks outside of Darlington, so I appreciate the insight. I took the liberty of leaving out the one sanctioned track in Hawaii though, doubt anybody here is making that haul lol

JP1738 12-18-2024 04:48 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 706985)
Video Announcement - Stock and Super Stock

https://www.facebook.com/IHRAMotorsp...98039791806700

Yeah, they've said that STK/SS would accompany any nitro jam event they host

J.R. Haddad 12-18-2024 07:34 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
C'mon Dawson. From what your Dad says you will make enough money
on OnlyFans to make the haul to Hawaii. If I open my my own site I won't
have enough money for racing fuel to get to the burnout box! Unless the
girls who visit my site pay me to put my clothes back on.

J.R.

Rose Racing 12-18-2024 08:50 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 706987)
Maybe so. I don't have personal experience with any of these tracks outside of Darlington, so I appreciate the insight. I took the liberty of leaving out the one sanctioned track in Hawaii though, doubt anybody here is making that haul lol

I mean I truly honestly believe Dragway 42 is an option yes shut down is short but I mean so is Columbus and Pomona...... Its a first class facility and draws spectators. It actually has more drawing capability for a stand alone Pro Mod show than Norwalk and idk I wish IHRA was sanctioning US 131 or Emire Dragway in NY. Those are great options. I have heard us 41 is pretty nice in Indiana. My biggest question is how is IHRA going to attract the Classracers to these events?

SDmopar 12-18-2024 09:03 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
I heard rumors that Flying H in Odessa MO was going IHRA. New facility just needs a few more improvements. NHRA proves every season it?s easy to attract Class Racers?. 1 small trophy and an insignificant amount of prize money has us fighting each other and spending thousands to get points just to get signed up for another with a slightly bigger trophy with a smaller field of drivers over a longer event.

FLEMING 12-19-2024 11:17 AM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Flying H is my guess for this big suprise track IHRA is adding.. I sorta think it may be edgewater as another option.. I am hearing IHRA has been sold to the businessman in Hamilton Oh.. And edgewater is right there as well...

JP1738 12-19-2024 04:08 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FLEMING (Post 707020)
Flying H is my guess for this big suprise track IHRA is adding.. I sorta think it may be edgewater as another option.. I am hearing IHRA has been sold to the businessman in Hamilton Oh.. And edgewater is right there as well...

Could be, I've also heard the guy bought it, but I have no idea if that's true. Edgewater looks like a pretty nice place, I've seen several videos from there.

jeff_kovalik 12-20-2024 03:27 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
i have news for you... National Trail & Norwalk are the same length from 1/4 mile cone to turn off. they are both 1975 feet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose Racing (Post 707009)
I mean I truly honestly believe Dragway 42 is an option yes shut down is short but I mean so is Columbus and Pomona...... Its a first class facility and draws spectators. It actually has more drawing capability for a stand alone Pro Mod show than Norwalk and idk I wish IHRA was sanctioning US 131 or Emire Dragway in NY. Those are great options. I have heard us 41 is pretty nice in Indiana. My biggest question is how is IHRA going to attract the Classracers to these events?


340Cuda 12-20-2024 03:47 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
That is interesting, on Hot Rod's Drag Week my son never commented on stopping at Norwalk but felt he had to get on the brakes pretty hard at National Trail. Is National Trail downhill? His car is heavy (3,500lbs) and runs 10.40s now probably a little slower at the time. Four wheel disk brakes.

JP1738 12-20-2024 04:02 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_kovalik (Post 707068)
i have news for you... National Trail & Norwalk are the same length from 1/4 mile cone to turn off. they are both 1975 feet.

In that case, they are both pretty short. I've never raced at either, but I have always felt like zmax felt short and it's 2480' of shutdown

Also I looked at it myself and it looks like Norwalk is about 100' longer than Columbus

jeff_kovalik 12-20-2024 04:10 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
It is always perceived that way. Yes, NTR is downhill mostly and then goes up hill at the turnoff and Norwalk is mostly flat until the very end, then it actually drops. It is deceiving for sure... I watched Tony Schumacher's 336.15 mph record run in 2005 and he had to be pushed off the track because he didn't make it up the hill at the end.

1/4 mile cone to sand = 1990' NTR
1/4 mile cone to sand = 2010' Norwalk
1/4 mile cone to sand = 1570' Kil Kare (that one will get your attention if you're running 1/4)

Jeff

Quote:

Originally Posted by 340Cuda (Post 707069)
That is interesting, on Hot Rod's Drag Week my son never commented on stopping at Norwalk but felt he had to get on the brakes pretty hard at National Trail. Is National Trail downhill? His car is heavy (3,500lbs) and runs 10.40s now probably a little slower at the time. Four wheel disk brakes.


j gardiner 12-21-2024 10:47 AM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Looks like Darlington is going to NHRA. I figured that would be one of the places where they would of had a Nitrojam.

Kevin Panzino 12-21-2024 02:05 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Well, the numbers are the numbers, and I can only assume your source for those numbers is accurate. But boy do I feel like I have to brake quite a bit more at national trails than I do at Norwalk. Don?t get me wrong, I love both tracks. But trails sure ? feels? like a shorter shutdown. Likely just gravity interfering.
Off topic, but the whole track is downhill at Cecil. One of the reasons you see such quick runs there. If you sit on the right side stands and look at the track compared to the left side stands (which I can only assume are installed level) it?s incredibly apparent.


Kp

bigshow2966 12-21-2024 02:53 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Now the IHRA has changed hands.

HR9121 12-21-2024 10:14 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j gardiner (Post 707089)
Looks like Darlington is going to NHRA. I figured that would be one of the places where they would of had a Nitrojam.

Darlington was not with IHRA anymore anyway they have been a WDRA the last couple of years. Hopefully we can get a D2 division race there soon.

goinbroke2 12-22-2024 03:30 PM

Re: IHRA going back to class racing
 
ANOTHER benefit of running a U/SA!


(how much shut down do you need for 89mph?? LOL)


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