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SSDA Hemi 11-28-2024 09:02 AM

Header Builders
 
I Know Mark at Performance Welding retired, I thought Calvin Elston also closed up shop. Who is best stainless header fabricator on the East coast?

Richard Kay 11-28-2024 11:30 AM

Re: Header Builders
 
American Racing Headers built my custom stainless headers when they were on Long Island. They moved to North Carolina about one year ago. Nice headers.

Billy Nees 11-28-2024 12:04 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
I have to ask even though I'm pretty sure that I already know the answer, Why Stainless?

Kenny Bomar 11-28-2024 12:54 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
REF unlimited headers in Arizona one of the best fabrication and service

1320racer 11-28-2024 01:03 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
Agree. Send him your old headers and he can build a new copy of them as well make the modifications you have made over the years using a hammer;)

SSDA Hemi 11-28-2024 04:38 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Kay (Post 706179)
American Racing Headers built my custom stainless headers when they were on Long Island. They moved to North Carolina about one year ago. Nice headers.

I knew where they were on the island, didn't realize they did custom headers or that they moved. I drove by their place but never went in. Medford?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 706183)
Why Stainless?

C'mon Billy. How are you going to polish mild steel?!!!

The big sticking point with my AH car right now is disgusted with the mild steel headers I have on there and have 2 nice sets of Stainless but neither fits in its entirety. I HATE rust in any shape or form!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny Bomar (Post 706190)
REF unlimited headers in Arizona one of the best fabrication and service

This is pretty much a 1-off application and I have no headers to begin with. Arizona is a little far to drive right now. If things drag with this car as they have been might be local to me lol!

1320racer 11-28-2024 04:40 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDA Hemi (Post 706204)
The big sticking point with my AH car right now is disgusted with the mild steel headers I have on there

send your mild steel headers to REF and they will duplicate them in Stainless steel.

Billy Nees 11-28-2024 04:47 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDA Hemi (Post 706204)
C'mon Billy. How are you going to polish mild steel?!!!

Look into "Electroless Nickel Plating"!
You have a P.M..

SSDA Hemi 11-28-2024 04:50 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 706205)
send your mild steel headers to REF and they will duplicate them in Stainless steel.

This is one of the reasons with having multiple race cars, especially with a few under construction. Not enough hours in a day to get all 100% perfect. I usually concentrate on 1 at a time and headers on AH car are far from where I want them right now. But they work. I may do that in future but I still dont think I would want that design copied. Custom fit and tube sizes reduced. Older technology should sometimes be left in the past. And that car is setup for eliminator and not shoot out. Right now feeding one of the other rides that I shouldve never shelved while looking for a 200 mph fix!

Kirk Morgan 11-28-2024 08:15 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
If you have more than one set of headers that need to be made or other racers that need some flying him in if he still does that maybe the solution. When RJ and i were building a late model CJ we flue him in to San Antonio TX and he built 2 sets of stepped headers in a day and one half. One for us and one with a different tube location because they used a different firing order on another CJ project. The only thing we supplied was a tig welder and he shipped all the needed tubing for the job. Watching Greg work was unbelievable. He even made some jigs for the headers. He talked us out of stainless headers.

Richard Kay 12-01-2024 05:23 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
[QUOTE=SSDA Hemi;706204]I knew where they were on the island, didn't realize they did custom headers or that they moved. I drove by their place but never went in. Medford?

They were on Grand Blvd. in Deer Park.

Frank Castros 12-01-2024 06:20 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
Do the NASCAR teams build their own headers?

Frank Castros 12-01-2024 06:26 PM

Re: Header Builders
 
What makes ACP, Kromer Kraft and Precision Welding headers special.

Does anyone use Kooks Headers?

1320racer 12-01-2024 08:35 PM

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they're not

RonP 12-02-2024 11:23 AM

Re: Header Builders
 
KromerKraft located in Youngstown, OH can do mild steel with ceramic coating, stainless steel or titanium,....but mild steel + ceramic coating is typically recommended.

Signman 12-02-2024 11:34 AM

Re: Header Builders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 706327)
What makes ACP, Kromer Kraft and Precision Welding headers special.


Each have their own formulas for tube diameter, length to each step, Step change in diameter, collector size. Overall design of header 4 into 1 or Tri-Y. These factors will determine how hard they suck exhaust out the port, control reversion pulses not allow them to make it back to the valve stalling flow. Controlling signal getting back to the carb effecting fueling. Build quality placing bends and their radius.

Not saying a custom set will "always" outperform a set of box headers.
Depends on the combination.
A box header can be optimal.
Improvement can be minimal.

Improvement can also be impressive.

There are old threads on Speed Talk with comments by Calvin Elston and others which if your interested in understanding theory behind header design are very informative. Search "Exhausted".

George Wright 12-02-2024 11:42 AM

Re: Header Builders
 
https://www.youtube.com/embed/ElcbVBOs5TE

bert powell 12-04-2024 10:38 AM

Re: Header Builders
 
Give Hippie Fabrication a call, he is in Jacksonville NC. He has beeen doing some awesome work down here. I don't have a phone number handy but someone will chime in.

Signman 12-04-2024 11:41 AM

Re: Header Builders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by George Wright (Post 706350)


Steve Ficacci warned me about this with a story about a prostock dyno session where they tried running an old set of rusty headers ruining the engine.


I usually scrub my headers with a brush and a bucket of soapy water then rinse with a hose. Use a long tapered brush meant for cleaning under refrigerator or heating unit. It looks like and anteater. Lot's of junk will be in the bucket.

Fog your engine good when done for the weekend and plug collectors with rags. Replace your good race plugs with a set you only use for fogging and warm up after sitting a few weeks.


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