Biden's lie about insulin price cap
 

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Can't access this, but what's new?
We could have a whole section here on Biden's lies, going back 50 years.

This, from another thread>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVxYu09JtzU&t=340s

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BDS, is this a thing now

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No, Numnutz. He earned every bit of the criticism here

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u do no that the $35 insulin happened under Biden ****forbrains, doh. BDS, got ya, or do you need a shot of insulin to make u right.

Wakling parrott, not all drag racers are conspiracy theorists.

Most are real Americans, not the hateful 8.

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Hey F.O., can you read better than you can spell?

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I just noticed this Billy. Here again, the devil is in the details. Yes, Trump signed an executive order to lower prices. But it was only at health centers. Medicare health centers. I don't know that we even have one in our town. Not drug stores. So it did not affect someone like me. Bidens plan lowers the price ...period. No matter where its purchased from. My Albuterol Inhaler was 85 bucks through my drug card. It's now 35 so I'm assuming it got lowered to.

"For Trump’s part, the former president signed an executive order in the last year of his administration requiring federal community health centers to pass on insulin discounts to customers, his own effort to lower insulin prices. Biden later paused that policy when he took office as part of a larger freeze to allow his administration to review new regulations set to go into effect".
I'm assuming Trump did all he could without legislation. Bidens Affordable Care act lowered the prices across the board.

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[QUOTE=Jeff Niceswanger;698849]I just noticed this Billy. Here again, the devil is in the details. Yes, Trump signed an executive order to lower prices. But it was only at health centers. Medicare health centers. I don't know that we even have one in our town. Not drug stores. So it did not affect someone like me. Bidens plan lowers the price ...period. No matter where its purchased from. My Albuterol Inhaler was 85 bucks through my drug card. It's now 35 so I'm assuming it got lowered to.

"For Trump?s part, the former president signed an executive order in the last year of his administration requiring federal community health centers to pass on insulin discounts to customers, his own effort to lower insulin prices. Biden later paused that policy when he took office as part of a larger freeze to allow his administration to review new regulations set to go into effect".
I'm assuming Trump did all he could without legislation. Bidens Affordable Care act lowered the prices across the board.[B/QUOTE]




Biden's Affordable Care Act?

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[QUOTE=Alan Roehrich;698853]You got me Alan,
Its the Affordable Insulin Now Act..... and then later Inflation Reduction Act

Affordable Insulin Now Act

This bill limits cost-sharing for insulin under private health insurance and the Medicare prescription drug benefit.

Specifically, the bill caps cost-sharing under private health insurance for a month's supply of selected insulin products at $35 or 25% of a plan's negotiated price (after any price concessions), whichever is less, beginning in 2023.

The bill caps cost-sharing under the Medicare prescription drug benefit for a month's supply of covered insulin products at (1) $35 between October 1, 2022, and January 1, 2024; and (2) $35 or 25% of a plan's negotiated price, whichever is less, beginning in 2024. The bill provides funds for FY2022 for the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) to implement the bill.

And the other part.......

The price cap for Medicare recipients was part of the Inflation Reduction Act, which originally sought to cap insulin at $35 for all those with health insurance. When it passed in 2022, it was scaled back by congressional Republicans to apply only to older adults.

The Biden administration has also announced agreements with drugmakers Sanofi, Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly, to cap insulin co-payments at $35 for those with private insurance. They account for more than 90% of the U.S. insulin market.

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ROFLMAO. "Inflation Reduction Act". With the aggregate rate of inflation at about 20% over the past 3 years.


Heard a great "jobs report" though. It seems that the vast majority of jobs "created" by old Beijing Joe Biden went to................illegal aliens.

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Feel free to take your job back!



https://www.ucdavis.edu/sites/defaul...&itok=Cbp57hCf

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Johnny Fogle owns a huge turf business in the southern tip of SC. Every single person he has working for him, and there is a ton of them, are from Guatemala. They work in the fields, like your pictures Eddie. I have no idea how many of them are illegal, but I'm betting all of them. He says they are fantastic workers, cause no problems, pay taxes and show every single day he asks. The only "Americans" he has working for him are in the front office. Do I agree with that? I hate it. But he says they're the only ones that will work. And he speaks VERY highly of them. Their good people. Most people don't realize the illegals pay taxes. The "Dreamers", the kids that were brought over here illegally and grew up here.... are now Doctors, and Lawyers, and Janitors and everything else we can imagine, but are not US legal citizens. (and can't vote) You know why? There is absolutely no legal path for the Dreamers to get citizenship. Is that nuts or what? It's been a big standoff for decades and the Republicans won't budge. As far as the Republicans are concerned, send them back. These now adults don't even speak the language of Mexico. At least many of them don't.
I don't know much but immigration it's a DEEP subject. Lots of people do a lot of talking and don't have a clue what their talking about. And the politicians, all of them, do a horrible job of explaining. I know this group is going to come on here and bash. We all know the horror stories. The murders and such. But next time you see Johnny at the races, ask him about his workforce. He has ACTUALLY been around them

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Immigrants are essential to California's labor force, with a total of 6.1 million immigrants employed in California from 2021 to 2023, representing 1 in 3 workers in the state. Immigrants and children of immigrants made up over half of all California workers during this same period. Immigrants are vital in creating the vibrant, prosperous communities and strong workforce that propelled California into becoming the fifth largest economy in the world. Can any other State make that same claim?

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LOL. I guess immigration laws don't matter. I guess all of those people waiting in line to legally immigrate, don't matter. I guess all of the fentanyl coming across the border doesn't matter. I suppose the billions of dollars going to the drug cartels doesn't matter. And neither does the number of illegal aliens from unfriendly nations that are single males of military age. Let's not forget how they're attempting to access secure military installations, that doesn't matter, either.


It's sad how many things leftists will excuse to get cheap labor, and gain seats in congress along, with electoral college votes. Willing to import anything into the country, no matter how harmful, to gain power in government.




I'm sure this will be called "bashing". When the truth is hated, it is always called "hate speech".

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Next time you see old Johnny. Tell him he needs to just shut the place down. Better yet, tell him how to get help. He don't care how, he just needs workers that show up, and WORK in his fields.

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Do you suppose old Johnny chose the wrong line of work? Must have known it was a labor problem for years. Perhaps he could grow alfalfa. It is nearly all automated.
One great thing about our country is freedom to choose your occupation. Rather than the left trying to change the world to meet their criteria, how about obeying the current laws of our country. Oh, that wouldn?t be progressive would it.

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According to a survey of 5,000 U.S. farmers by the Farm Journal, 85 percent said they plan to vote for Trump to be reelected to a second term in November. Just 12 percent said they plan on voting for Joe Biden, while roughly 3 percent were still undecided. Other polls measuring farmers? pulse on the election show similar large leads for Trump, with many larger than they were in 2016. Don’t you just hate the TRUTH!.

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Thats is a crazy statement, Gary. Real stretch. OK, Johnny sells it, or never owned it. WHOEVER owns it will need these same workers. Someone will be growing the sod we put in our golf courses, restaurants, hotel property's Right? I can't see objective here. Close places down? Cause white people ain't doin this manual labor. There is tons of not very automated field jobs that these workers are needed in, right?

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Isn't that like buying a house next to a drag strip then complain about noise. Obviously he went into to sod business knowing it was hard to find labor, but did it anyway.
BTW, here in Arizona cities are paying to have people replace grass yards with desert. Don't have to water or mow it.

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I think Eddie and I and whoever, agree with the facts. Immigration needs fixing and is a mess. But why in heavens name does it take so long. What slowed it down from the early 1900's when our own family's came to this country. Good God guys, this is 2024. You would think we could do multiple times as many people as we did in old days. Why can't we Pick and # and MAKE IT HAPPEN. Open this link and watch this video.

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=c6ee4...UtMTk2NQ&ntb=1

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IDK Gary. I'll ask him. You tell me. Was it hard to get hired help back in the 1960's?. Cause he's had this business forever. And that's not the point anyways. You keep avoiding the point. There is not enough people for all these jobs. And some of these jobs are not prestigious enough for people like you and me.

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Republicans had an opportunity to address border crossings, they elected to do nothing based on the mere suggestion of a felon! Prior to 1924 people just showed up at our shores, no paperwork required. Example, 1.8 million Irishman showed up and were processed. Logged into Ellis Island, welcome to America!

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One more comment and I'll shut up. There were sod farms in Iowa where I grew up. We called those jobs for "strong backs and weak minds" .. often it was said to get an education or you'll be working on the sod farm or the poor farm. But, I know, times have changed. You referenced hiring in the 1960's...their were so many good, disciplined American young men returning home in the 1960's, (excluding 58,000 that didn't come home)... so easy to find employees. Now.....prisons are full of undesirables that could work under the right circumstances. Have a nice day. Charlie Bravo two (I think that was it) out....

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There's where you r thinking is skewed Gary. In 1960....

In 1960, there were 61.3 million men 14 years old and over of whom 47.5 million, or 77 percent, were in the labor force.

Today...

U.S seasonally adjusted monthly number of employees 2022-2024. In May 2024, about 161.08 million people were employed in the United
We need a WHOLE BUNCH more workers than in 1960

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American companies are moving manufacturing back to the US from Asia. General Motors, Intel and US Steel are among companies opening new factories in America. Companies started reviewing their supply chains following the US-China trade war and pandemic.

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Nonsense, as usual.
You're probably talking about the bill that was part of another pay-off that was an adjusted quota system, that was similar to FJB's desperate end run a few weeks ago

Don't post that crap here.It's disrespectful to real racers.
There's no low-info Democrat voters here

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Here are your vibrant, prosperous communities....


https://www.unbiased.com/discover/ba...-in-california

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My suggestion is to not live here if you can't afford it.

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Again no homework by a "real racer".Reference to the bill sponsored by the Repukes...HR-2, ever heard of it? The one Trump wanted dump to make Biden look bad.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-...l/2/cosponsors


There are two things i know about "respect", first it is earned and second it is a two way street. You call yourself a "real racer", my neighbor is a "real racer", she has 8 Wally's on her mantel piece, she earned my respect.

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What does it say,..with no spin? I need a bureaucrat to decode it.

Your neighbor must be a liberal.

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What is the minimum wage in California 2024 for farm workers?
The minimum wage in California, effective January 1, 2024, is $16.00/hour for all employers.

What is the federal minimum wage for farm workers?
$7.25 per hour
The Fair Labor Standards Act (?FLSA?) does require that most agricultural workers receive at least the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.

I found this interesting. Additionally, it used to be that it cost another 50% of wage for benefits (workers comp, social security, insurance and retirement) no wonder strawberries are so expensive.

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Rather than quell their unrest, Johnson?s move produced only more ire from hard-right members. Three Republicans ? Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Paul Gosar of Arizona ? are already backing a move to oust Johnson through a motion to vacate.

During Friday?s floor debate, Democrats argued that the bill, H.R. 3602, was a rehash of H.R. 2, a bill House Republicans passed last year that would reinstate Trump-era immigration policies such as the construction of the border wall. Both bills would also require asylum seekers to remain in Mexico.


Neither one would pass the senate,, says Fatboy Nadler

So do your homework rather than trying to blameTrump.

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California requires minimum wage for under 25 employees, over 25 an employer can pay piece work wages. Farmers and labor contractors, piece rate is the perfect solution for increasing
productivity and turning a profit. California Dept of Industrial Relations only requires Workers Comp. to be paid by the employers. I would check the price of fuel for trucking from farm to market for price increase.

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We all know Trump is innocent.

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Fact: The border was relatively secure until 1/20/2021. Policies in place under Trump had slowed illegal immigration to a crawl.


Fact. Beijing Joe Biden issued NINETY-FOUR executive orders in the first 90 days of his administration, opening the border, reversing the Trump policies that closed it. Biden had told illegal immigrants to surge to the border to be allowed in when he took office.


As such, no new laws needed to be passed to give Biden authority or power to close the border. The bill you claim was about border security was full of other crap, included to assure republicans would not vote for it.


Biden not only has the authority to close the border, he's required by the Constitution to faithfully execute the laws passed by congress to secure the border.

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Although many here have blamed the Biden administration alone for the rise in border encounters in 2021, the roots of the current trends began months and in some cases years before President Biden took office. The government can and should view the arrival of high numbers of asylum seekers as a humanitarian protection management challenge, not a security challenge.


https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...unters-in-2021


I have made reference to HR-2 that was sponsored by a Republican and co-sponsored by no less 21 Republicans in the House. Both you and Mark make reference to the Senate bill that was riddled with actions not part of the immigration issue. HR-2 addresses funding for additional Border Patrol personnel and equipment. Please take the opportunity to read what was included. I give credit to the sponsor and committees who took the time to finally address immigration control. This should have become law.



https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-...s/house-bill/2


Trump has made immigration and the border a central campaign issue (again), successfully pressuring Republicans to reject a major bipartisan border deal (HR-2) earlier this year and making a trip to the southern border on February 29, where he touted his previous hard-line immigration policies. The same thing he said in 2016 and 2020...Talk is cheap!

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Eddie,
Is this a blanket statement about all of Trump guilty convictions, or just the latest one? :D

Stan

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Talk is cheap?

So Trump didn't want the bill to pass, but you did?

You are for the following then... Looks like you finally came around to our way of thinking. Thanks


This bill addresses issues regarding immigration and border security, including by imposing limits to asylum eligibility.

For example, the bill

requires the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to resume activities to construct a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border;
provides statutory authorization for Operation Stonegarden, which provides grants to law enforcement agencies for certain border security operations;
prohibits DHS from processing the entry of non-U.S. nationals (aliens under federal law) arriving between ports of entry;
limits asylum eligibility to non-U.S. nationals who arrive in the United States at a port of entry;
authorizes the removal of a non-U.S. national to a country other than that individual's country of nationality or last lawful habitual residence, whereas currently this type of removal may only be to a country that has an agreement with the United States for such removal;
expands the types of crimes that may make an individual ineligible for asylum, such as a conviction for driving while intoxicated causing another person's serious bodily injury or death;
authorizes DHS to suspend the introduction of certain non-U.S. nationals at an international border if DHS determines that the suspension is necessary to achieve operational control of that border;
prohibits states from imposing licensing requirements on immigration detention facilities used to detain minors;
authorizes immigration officers to permit an unaccompanied alien child to withdraw their application for admission into the United States even if the child is unable to make an independent decision to withdraw the application;
imposes additional penalties for overstaying a visa; and
requires DHS to create an electronic employment eligibility confirmation system modeled after the E-Verify system and requires all employers to use the system.

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We all know Hunter and The Big Guy are guilty.

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Hunter was charged and found guilty and is charged again concerning his taxes. That is the way the system works. The other part of that same system states a person is innocent until proven otherwise. Constitution 101