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Billy Nees 03-31-2023 07:36 AM

Group formed to rescind 1975 9" tire rule!
 
If you're a current, former or future NHRA Racer with or without dementia and you feel that 9" tires on a Stocker are pure overkill then post your name to this thread or P/M me. OR contact the attending duty nurse. 7" tires should be more than enough!
If you're not interested in commenting then please keep your comments to yourself or in the confines of the nursing home.

Robin Lawrence 03-31-2023 08:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 678239)
If you're a current, former or future NHRA Racer with or without dementia and you feel that 9" tires on a Stocker are pure overkill then post your name to this thread or P/M me. OR contact the attending duty nurse. 7" tires should be more than enough!
If you're not interested in commenting then please keep your comments to yourself or in the confines of the nursing home.

OMG!!!

What a way to start the day. This stuff is great!

Thanks Billy.

Robin

Doug Hoven 03-31-2023 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 678239)
If you're a current, former or future NHRA Racer with or without dementia and you feel that 9" tires on a Stocker are pure overkill then post your name to this thread or P/M me. OR contact the attending duty nurse. 7" tires should be more than enough!
If you're not interested in commenting then please keep your comments to yourself or in the confines of the nursing home.

The funny thing about this, is if somehow the 7" tire rule was reinstated, no quicker would each tire manufacturer be developing and making 9" wide tires that say 30x7 on the side, making them legal.

442OLDS 03-31-2023 09:12 AM

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Did I miss something?

April Fool's Day is TODAY?

Ron Ortiz 03-31-2023 09:20 AM

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I want to add my name to the list, I am a racer who isn't racing, I am a NHRA member, with a car, but not racing until ready. I don't remember if I have dementia or whatever it is. 9" tires are more than enough, I run them with 30 lbs of pressure.
If the fast guys don't know how to get their 500 HP cars hooked, then go to Modified Eliminator. Where is the nurse? If I can't see too good, should I remove my blinder.
Traction control is moving your foot.
Thank you Billy for forming this club, now where are the donuts.

Billy Nees 03-31-2023 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz (Post 678253)
I don't remember

now where are the donuts.

Ron, it was your turn to bring them!

Tom Goldman 03-31-2023 10:12 AM

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Billy ,will we also be able to bring our floor jacks and Stanley cheese grater files to the lanes to trim the tires to regulation size if this change is successful ??

James Perrone 03-31-2023 10:17 AM

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Easy slow pokes.
7 inch tire rule.
How about all stockers must have 8 working spark plugs
Also burnout with front tires illegal
It’s dangerous 😝

427FE 03-31-2023 10:37 AM

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The Atlas Bucron 8.20's is a better choice. On a 4" rim like the old days.

Stan Weiss 03-31-2023 11:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 427FE (Post 678261)
The Atlas Bucron 8.20's is a better choice. On a 4" rim like the old days.


Great Idea. :D



Stan

Dave Gantz 03-31-2023 09:23 PM

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It seems that being able to pass a history exam regarding Stock, and its various transformations, will have to be a prerequisite to joining the group! Actually, it could be interesting to record what has transpired over the years. Some at NHRA "Club Headquarters" may find it interesting.?

I have some memory back to '72, I'd be glad to contribute what I can remember to the cause.

Mark Yacavone 03-31-2023 09:48 PM

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Billy, "Mark" me down.You've got my number.

After all...I want what's good for ME, ME, ME

CMcAllister 04-01-2023 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 427FE (Post 678261)
The Atlas Bucron 8.20's is a better choice. On a 4" rim like the old days.

VW 7.10x15 on the front while you're at it.. Totally good to go at 150MPH

older racer 04-01-2023 01:42 AM

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aahh yes, atlas bucrons, were tire of choice back then.

Jim Caughlin 04-01-2023 06:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by older racer (Post 678289)
aahh yes, atlas bucrons, were tire of choice back then.

Casler Recaps

Ellis A Buth 04-01-2023 08:04 AM

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Can we get the 7's in a radial

Clayton Wright 04-01-2023 03:28 PM

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As I rember back in the day M&H B-148 was the tire. Had good traction until the cords showed.

Billy Nees 04-01-2023 05:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayton Wright (Post 678301)
As I rember back in the day M&H B-148 was the tire. Had good traction until the cords showed.

and back in the day when "track prep" was a mop and a broom!

pro stock chuck 04-01-2023 06:38 PM

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I got one that can save as Money. Fuel check. Checking fuel is a waste of time. Who cares. We have shoe polish!
My idea Run any fuel you want. That right from gas station pump ⛽ gas to whatever you want to spend. I tried of spending 29.00 a gallon for lifting and some guys spend even more. Race gas is not cheap anymore. I know a lot of guys in other classes Super this and that run pump gas. Am pissed. I have to go now my wife is calling me its time for my MEDS.😡 7" tire Rock-On

Dwight Southerland 04-02-2023 08:15 AM

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What about the rule for fully treaded tires when Stock was reinstated in 1972? L60-15 M&H 280 compound

brian schuetta 04-02-2023 08:57 AM

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Going to Sears or Penny's to buy your racing tires

Larry Hill 04-02-2023 09:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 678307)
and back in the day when "track prep" was a mop and a broom!

At some places it still is!

Rob Petrie E395 04-02-2023 03:37 PM

Re: Group formed to rescind 1975 9" tire rule!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pro stock chuck (Post 678312)
I got one that can save as Money. Fuel check. Checking fuel is a waste of time. Who cares. We have shoe polish!
My idea Run any fuel you want. That right from gas station pump ⛽ gas to whatever you want to spend. I tried of spending 29.00 a gallon for lifting and some guys spend even more. Race gas is not cheap anymore. I know a lot of guys in other classes Super this and that run pump gas. Am pissed. I have to go now my wife is calling me its time for my MEDS.😡 7" tire Rock-On

Be careful what you wish for when doing away with fuel rules. I used to race boats in the 90’s. Where there were no fuel rules. Trust me C-11 is cheap compared to no rules.

rod 07-05-2023 08:40 PM

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9" tire just ruined my 265 Nomad. 7x29 Firestones-perfectl. clutch disc would last a long time. miss them old days.
Rod in AZ

Joe Fasano 07-06-2023 11:58 AM

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I will take two sets of Bucron's if anyone knows where they might be.

Frank Castros 07-06-2023 07:45 PM

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Hoosier #18950

Mike Jones 07-06-2023 09:42 PM

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Nice to hear from you Frank.

CMcAllister 07-07-2023 09:42 AM

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"Street type or drag slick tires, maximum 9 inch tread width"

Good news - rules say you can use the 7" tires. Even street tires. Throw them on there.

Motorcycle guys might know which ones to use.

Barry Polley 07-07-2023 11:11 AM

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Question, is there a rule that says you cannot run a smaller tire?
If there is no rule then y’all can run the small tire.
No disrespect but Why penalize the other cars?

MikeMoller 07-07-2023 11:31 AM

Re: Group formed to rescind 1975 9" tire rule!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Hoven (Post 678245)
The funny thing about this, is if somehow the 7" tire rule was reinstated, no quicker would each tire manufacturer be developing and making 9" wide tires that say 30x7 on the side, making them legal.

Agree. Has anyone measured the tires marked "9" lately?

Dirk Olson 07-10-2023 12:57 PM

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Anybody out there who wants to, go ahead and run the 7" lower HP guys might even pick up, but I doubt you will any takers. Hell, I say we should have 10" tires! Is it bedtime yet?

Billy Nees 07-10-2023 02:54 PM

Re: Group formed to rescind 1975 9" tire rule!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk Olson (Post 682740)
Anybody out there who wants to, go ahead and run the 7" lower HP guys might even pick up, but I doubt you will any takers. Hell, I say we should have 10" tires! Is it bedtime yet?

Umm, you DO realize that I started this thread about 4 months ago as an April fool's joke right?

BG56 07-10-2023 05:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 682746)
Umm, you DO realize that I started this thread about 4 months ago as an April fool's joke right?


Size is everything!?:confused:

Adger Smith 07-10-2023 07:38 PM

Re: Group formed to rescind 1975 9" tire rule!
 
Great Idea Billy....
That might stop the rush to make Stock into Super Stock...& equalize
the old combos with the new factory cars.
That is what we had when I started and somewhere along the way the high HP guys wanted 9".
Would love to see a COPO on 7" tires...

Casey Miles 07-10-2023 11:56 PM

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I tried the 7" tires with no success, I know that the SS class of the Southeast Gasser Association mandates that the racers use the 7" tires. They only run the 1/8 mile and I know that some hook pretty well to allow them to run well into the 6,60 second range at 105 MPH.
I would try the 7" tires again, they were 5lbs lighter than the 9" tires which means more wheel speed.
Casey Miles
248H Stock

GarysZ24 07-11-2023 02:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 678258)
Easy slow pokes.
7 inch tire rule.
How about all stockers must have 8 working spark plugs
Also burnout with front tires illegal
It’s dangerous ��

Billy, I am glad this thread was an April Fool's Day joke, because I'd have comments/issue's with all three of James' comments:

1. The slicks that were on "Shark Bait" when I won the D7 LODRS divisional in October 2020, as well as the Arizona Stock/Super Stock Association combo race (both in 2022, and 2023), were 22×8×15.

2. If you "James" didn't put that laughing emoticon in your post, I would've thought you feel like many who might wish all FWD, and 4-6cyl Stockers would be banned from Stock (never mind the fact that several OEM car engine combos from the Muscle Car era, wouldn't run away and hide from my Z24 Cavalier that's still headerless)! Moreover, when Stock was really Stock, and not more like Super Stock from the '80 & '90's, even the slower V8 classes couldn't easily outperform my car! To those who still feel that way, I will say the same thing "The Grinch said to the Who's in Whoville, "BOO WHOOOOOOOO"!!!!

3. Because M/T stopped making those tires, I stopped doing burnouts. So you won't see me doing any front wheel burnouts with those tires again. Besides, another reason I don't do them is because the water patch is too big (what happened to a smaller patch and the racer doing a brief spin to wrap the water around his/her tires,, then pulling forward?)! I needed dry pavement for my parking brake to hold my rear tires in place while I did my burnouts (circa the Book "How to Drag Race, page 33 featuring my car starting a burnout that was far more massive than the picture indicated)!

Billy Nees 07-11-2023 07:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 682778)
Billy, I am glad this thread was an April Fool's Day joke, because I'd have comments/issue's with all three of James' comments:

Gary, just ignore Ponko. Just last week he was shopping for a "rental" for the Numidia Div. race because HIS Stocker which has 8 spark plugs (but runs like it has 7) is apart because it takes a lot of time and effort to keep those Stockers doing rear wheel burnouts. I graciously offered him MY Cavalier (you can find his post) and didn't want any kind of "rental fee" (not even a bottle of Cuervo!) in return. I can only assume that he felt embarrassed to have to admit that he couldn't handle it. :-)

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=85176

Mark Yacavone 07-11-2023 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 682767)
Great Idea Billy....

Would love to see a COPO on 7" tires...

Ha..They are probably the ones who could handle it best, with all the trickery they have.
10% throttle , 0 deg. timing..all in by 1000' mark.

Maybe a few wagon combos could handle 7" tires
W.A. Lee, 350 /2bbl, used the old Jr Stock Firestone dot 5's when 9 inchers were legal.
He'd run them at about 30-35 psi, stand on the converter, WFO, and just let go of the brake. Won quite a bit that way..

I think my old R/Stock wagon is still around in PA. somewhere.. 7 " SEGA spec Hoosiers.. Hmmm I think it would work ;-)

Dirk Olson 07-12-2023 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 682746)
Umm, you DO realize that I started this thread about 4 months ago as an April fool's joke right?

Yes, but does it matter. gives them something to bitch about

Alan Nyhus 07-14-2023 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk Olson (Post 682843)
Yes, but does it matter. gives them something to bitch about

Dirk....7" Firestone Drag 500's and rule the world! ;)

D3 or D5 compound. The D3 was in a white dot and the D5 was in a yellow dot. Or maybe it was the other way around? Anyway, with 7 lbs. in 'em, the car would....wiggle... a bit in the traps.

Hope all is well. :) -Al


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