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David Lee 02-27-2023 07:09 PM

question about starting a stocker
 
i am slowly building a 75 nova which i will convert it into a 77 so i can run the 305 2 barrel. should i handle all of the mechanical issues first then strip and paint the car??

L.Fite 02-27-2023 09:37 PM

Re: question about starting a stocker
 
My opinion?
Yes...

Larry Hill 02-28-2023 07:57 AM

Re: question about starting a stocker
 
Get it to run quicker than the index first. Working over a 40 + fenders is much easer than a freshly painted one. Also you’ll know the light at the end of the tunnel is not the train. Wasn’t there a world champ that did it with a two barrel. Allen Peters I think

David Lee 02-28-2023 08:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 676607)
Get it to run quicker than the index first. Working over a 40 + fenders is much easer than a freshly painted one. Also you’ll know the light at the end of the tunnel is not the train. Wasn’t there a world champ that did it with a two barrel. Allen Peters I think


Thanks for the replu Larry. We have never met, but my family roots run deep in Kentucky. I am so happy that your wife pulled through

Billy Nees 02-28-2023 10:14 AM

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David, the 305/2V is a pretty good combo. You shouldn't have any problem getting it under the index. Just don't fall into the trap of getting carried away with it. Ya don't need "ported heads" and "big cams" with a 2V.

Rob Petrie E395 02-28-2023 10:21 AM

Re: question about starting a stocker
 
I stripped my 200,000 mile eBay car I started with inside and out. Cleaned it up as best as possible. Then removed all the allowed stuff, trimmed rear wheel openings as allowed for bigger tires ect. . But the only thing that got painted was the engine compartment and suspension stuff. I then put it back together and raced it a couple of times cracked bondo, dents, 20 year old scratched up paint and all. Not sure if it would have ever got painted. But some local HS kids needed a project for their auto body class. So I paid for the materials and they did all the work. It’s not a world of wheels car show paint job. But looks a lot better than it did. If you’re lucky enough to have a HS that still teaches auto shop/auto body. And you HATE body work and sanding as much as I do. I highly recommend asking them if they need a project.

David Lee 02-28-2023 04:39 PM

Re: question about starting a stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 676616)
David, the 305/2V is a pretty good combo. You shouldn't have any problem getting it under the index. Just don't fall into the trap of getting carried away with it. Ya don't need "ported heads" and "big cams" with a 2V.




Thanks Billy. you were actually the person who inspired me to go with this combo from the dime rocket conversation.

jmoneyfoot 03-04-2023 04:22 PM

Re: question about starting a stocker
 
Let me know if you have any questions, I ran thus combo in a 78 buick skylark for a few years and now I'm putting it in a 77 omega. After 3yrs we got it to go a second under. Reach out if you gave any questions. Jake mellgren 952 261 3993 stk582

David Lee 03-04-2023 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmoneyfoot (Post 676864)
Let me know if you have any questions, I ran thus combo in a 78 buick skylark for a few years and now I'm putting it in a 77 omega. After 3yrs we got it to go a second under. Reach out if you gave any questions. Jake mellgren 952 261 3993 stk582


will do thanks.


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BigBlockBill 03-06-2023 04:25 PM

Re: question about starting a stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Petrie E395 (Post 676617)
I stripped my 200,000 mile eBay car I started with inside and out. Cleaned it up as best as possible. Then removed all the allowed stuff, trimmed rear wheel openings as allowed for bigger tires ect. . But the only thing that got painted was the engine compartment and suspension stuff. I then put it back together and raced it a couple of times cracked bondo, dents, 20 year old scratched up paint and all. Not sure if it would have ever got painted. But some local HS kids needed a project for their auto body class. So I paid for the materials and they did all the work. It’s not a world of wheels car show paint job. But looks a lot better than it did. If you’re lucky enough to have a HS that still teaches auto shop/auto body. And you HATE body work and sanding as much as I do. I highly recommend asking them if they need a project.

The other positive about doing it through the local HS is stiring kids interest in auto racing. If you let the school know where and when you will be racing I bet you could get several of the little grease puppies walking through the pits and sitting on the stands as well.

Rob Petrie E395 03-06-2023 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBlockBill (Post 676955)
The other positive about doing it through the local HS is stiring kids interest in auto racing. If you let the school know where and when you will be racing I bet you could get several of the little grease puppies walking through the pits and sitting on the stands as well.

Gateway in St Louis has a very good high school class they run on Wednesdays in conjunction with some test and tune nights. I mentioned it to some people at the schools here years ago. To give kids a place to run their cars and see if they might like racing. It was a solid no way. They want nothing to do with it because of liability. If the kids want to run they can with their parents. But the schools won’t be involved in any way. They can’t form a club, have meetings at school or anything. They won’t even allow flyers to be posted with the dates of the races. So kids can do it on their own with their parents.

The young man that did most of the work on my car wanted to drive it to prom. Basically they haul the race cars and hot rods into town on a trailer about a mile from the school. And the cops lead them to the school. Then they go into prom and the parents take the cars back home. But then he hurt himself playing sports and couldn’t drive. So it didn’t happen. It was supposed to kind of his reward for all the work. He races a little now with his dad.

Doug Hoven 03-10-2023 10:43 AM

Re: question about starting a stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Petrie E395 (Post 676962)
Gateway in St Louis has a very good high school class they run on Wednesdays in conjunction with some test and tune nights. I mentioned it to some people at the schools here years ago. To give kids a place to run their cars and see if they might like racing. It was a solid no way. They want nothing to do with it because of liability. If the kids want to run they can with their parents. But the schools won’t be involved in any way. They can’t form a club, have meetings at school or anything. They won’t even allow flyers to be posted with the dates of the races. So kids can do it on their own with their parents.

The young man that did most of the work on my car wanted to drive it to prom. Basically they haul the race cars and hot rods into town on a trailer about a mile from the school. And the cops lead them to the school. Then they go into prom and the parents take the cars back home. But then he hurt himself playing sports and couldn’t drive. So it didn’t happen. It was supposed to kind of his reward for all the work. He races a little now with his dad.

The High School classes used to be a big thing in the Northeast from what I was told. When I turned 17, in 2020, the only track left in Div 1 that seemed to do it was Atco. I went to the few races they had, and it was very good fun. I was running my 83 5.0 5spd mustang, and on the first race day, what comes through the gate? Another kid my age with an 86 5.0 5spd mustang. After the end of that season, there hasn't been any High School races at atco since. But, by the end of that year, I pretty much started my head first dive into Stock Eliminator racing anyway.

goinbroke2 09-13-2023 12:26 AM

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Not sure about other provinces in Canada, but in New Brunswick, high school kids at several schools compete in what was called "school boy competition". (new name now since I raced in it in 81-83)

My kid ran Juniors for 7 years and then moved on to a bracket car so even though we were in Nova Scotia, I got permission from the school to run magnetic decals of the school mascot. Went to Miramichi NB and got 3rd place. Then covid hit.....

So yes, here in 3 of the Maritime provinces, the schools support students racing and building cars in the auto department.


(great idea about getting the car painted!! Have a high school and tech school nearby)

Mark Yacavone 09-15-2023 12:21 PM

Re: question about starting a stocker
 
How is this project coming?

David Lee 09-15-2023 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 686160)
How is this project coming?

health problems (back) and family problems have slowed it down.


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