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I think we all agree that 50 entries for Stock and Super Stock for a race
with the prestige of the Gatornationals is not fair to the Racing Public.
With the Baby Gators the week before, make both fields 128 car qualified field. The catch? We will run class and first round at the Baby Gators.
If you lose first round, sorry, no racing next week. How many of us would
take that chance? A lot. If that's your only way in, you'll take it. There are
races all around those races, and getting out the snow is a good pull.
If you don't get make it to the big race, your tickets are still good for spectator seats. If you only get 50 more cars in each class, that is $35,000.00 more money that falls to the bottom line, all the expenses have already been paid. Putting additional people in the seats, plus food purchases etc. is all a win. The stands will look fuller on TV. This is the best win/win I can come up with. Got a better one, and there should be lots of ideas out there, post them up. Maybe NHRA will like one of them. Lets try to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

J.R.

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I like it J.R. Unfortunately NHRA won’t go for it, it makes too much sense. For some reason this ASSociation ?? only likes $$ if it is generated by their Beloved PROS……

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These low quotas blow my mind they really must not want the Money! I just don't get it ,take as many as you possibly can fit at the track and qualify 128 its a win for everyone!. Who knows .

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Do you think it might have something to do with the quality of the show?

Maybe if we hadn't taken so long to pair-up at all those events....

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You may be on to something there.

Easy fix though make 3 calls, then put a chain up, no matter who you are if you aren't there before the chain goes up at the back of staging ,see you at the next race . ;)

If you were on the ladder paired up ,then give bye runs accordingly. It may take a few races ,but I guarantee that'll fix it !

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Start a countdown system, you have certain amount of time to get to the lanes and paired up then staging lanes are closed, will only take one time of someone getting turned around after the lanes are closed for this to speed up.

Tim Stickles

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Being from FL it was always great when the Gators came to town. 128 car fields with half the field being from FL. Then things changed in no particular order,
Fields got smaller.
Need to acquire mucho grade points.
Al Peters rule established. ( no partying after 10:00 )
Lucky if there are 5 cars in Stock from FL.
Entry fee went up.
Register your pit vehicle.
Contingency got smaller.
Surcharge fees.
Food at concession. Costs more taste less.
More circus atmosphere.
These are just some of the things, but there are certain constants.
Bathrooms smell like sulphur.
Scenic parking in the back forty.
Speeding tickets in Waldo for going over just two miles an hour.
Racers wait till the last minute to go to the lanes.
Morning sun at 8:00 am in your eyes.
Waiting to make a run only to get pushed back for different circumstances.
I'm pretty sure there are a lot more scenarios out there, but all these things happen and we still come back for more. Kind of makes you wonder.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA. no partying is bs.

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Pit space: Pro rigs, manufacturer's midway, souvenir trailers, hospitality areas, vip parking. It's a show and, unfortunately, we're a small part of it.

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There is just one thing wrong with this. It’s a good idea so NHRA will hate it.

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Everyone talks about the old days , and then complains about every move NHRA makes to our classes , but then fills up quotas in 3 minutes hahahah. NHRA is the worlds greatest crack dealer. Gives everyone just enough of a taste. Everyone hates their drug dealer until it’s time for the next fix.

Oh- you want 50-60 more entries for stock and SS, I’ve never been to Gainesville , is there room to fit 100-120 more 80ft rigs??? If everyone went back to truck and open trailers maybe we could fit more cars lmao.

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I doubt it. There's no one in Stock or Super Stock that they'd hesitate to DQ. If that was a truly big deal, a much bigger deal would already have been made of it.




This is a matter of time and space for everything that they've added to National events. Everyone keeps saying they want this class or that class added, and so many think that everyone should get to race at National events.



How many classes have been added recently? Top Dragster, Top Sportsman, Pro Modified, all the "all stars", "special events", "bonus races", and "celebrity races". That all takes time and space. Well, guess what? The classes that take the most time and require the most tech and other hassles are Stock and Super Stock. Guess who is going to get cut.


As much as I hate to see people not have a place to race, NHRA National events, or even for that matter LODRS races, simply cannot make time and space for everyone. No sanctioning body or race can be everything to everyone. To even attempt it is to flirt with disaster.



And that's one thing for people to remember, especially sanctioning bodies, track owners, and promoters. No one can be everything to everyone. And the more you stray from your core participants and fans, the sooner they go elsewhere, or simply quit, and many never return. Then when the new wears off of the part of the "show" you pushed the core aside for, they all leave. Your "show" is never as big again, and you never make the money you once did. Drag racing won't be the first motorsport it happens to, and it won't be the last.

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After reading some comments, GVille had 128 entries, now there is 50. Let's see, there is now Top Sportsman, Top Dragster, Pro Mod. The categories increased taking away spots from lower categories. Simple, they are faster. As far as parking, at GVille they use the back areas, plenty of room.
Quotas start at 8 and work on down, having 4 or 5 probably isn't going to get you in, it fills fast, with out of state people. You would be surprised how many entries have a pick up and trailer.
JR, like the idea, and NHRA will probably adopt it. It relieves the Sportsman congestion without loosing the filler. Actually the Baby Gators is a prelude to it.
Of course people complain about what NHRA does, and yet still return, everybody does, and some complain about the ones who complain, but are still here.
Oh yeah, the electric cars are coming, must be 2022 or newer, battery size limited to ???

Ron Ortiz
U/SA. ZOT

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Gainesville has plenty of room to fit at least 80 more rigs out at the go cart track. I prefer to park out there. The grass is nice and that area doesn’t flood if the rain comes in heavy. Now that NHRA doesn’t park you people take way more pit space than is needed. I like to work off the back of my trailer anyway. This year with less cars they probably won’t park anyone at the go cart track. Last year there was about 30-40 rigs back there

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There's a sure-fire way to lose spectators after a couple of races for curiosity.
If you dial-in, can you race your golf cart?

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Is Bubski entered?

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No. He's running the tear down barn.

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Bubski would let to set the record straight !! If Bubski was running the tear down barn at Gainesville Stock would look like a Comp Eliminator field at a D 6 race !! Please show some courtesy and taste before you drag Bubski into this mess of self serving hypocrites !! Cheers !!

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The back area at Gainesville is nice and quiet but the total round trip for a run is 2 to 2.6 miles depending on where in the back you are pitted. The finger road that leads to the back sucks with the dust because its not paved.

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There is a better chance of Casper the ghost showing up. Bubski would faint if anyone really disclosed who she-he is.

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Weather looking good for their January 7th test and tune so think I’ll head that way and see if the road is paved now (will report back). Part of that Atlanta sale influx of cash to improve Indy and Gainesville facilities you know..;)

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If you park at the SW area back there you can drive along the cow fence at the south property line. That is paved all the way to the gate where you enter after stacking. It is a bit of a drive but nit bad during the cool part of the year. Going the other way is a mess unless it got paved since last year.

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NOT A CHANCE ITS PAVED! Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

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If they are not going to pave, at least make sure the speakers are working out there.

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There are no speakers out there. You have to have a radio. Last year the radio worked pretty good back there. I have not had any luck with their text system. Didnt seem to be working at the Gators and didnt work at all at Indy. NHRA is really backward with their technology. Maybe if they allowed some more quota they could afford to upgrade their communications.

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Makes sense JR but anything that cuts into the pro show is a no no.
I’m seeing no Pro Stock or Comp at Sonoma Nationals and this would be a chance to up quotas but we cannot fill s/SS/comp field out (Sonoma) here and that’s is an issue. Still No Sonoma divisional either! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

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So you really think Nhra cares who is the last diver to show up
Let’s stop beating the dead horse. Fletcher. Santagilo emmons. lamb
They don’t care about the backbone and customers of sportsman racing
We are the wallet$$
Charge more$ for less $ to win
Cut the customer base by about 50% at events
We are in a abusive relationship like a battered spouse
I keep going because of all my friends and competitors I have met
Remember it’s a hobby a sport for the old and out of shape

Remember is my $ and time to race
Nhra is not here to appease us to run national events
Nhra is milking the cow(Us racers) because where are easily impressed
With The Circus and abuse

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Since I am the ultimate "Pit Snob" I will not go to a race where I have to drive My "$20,000" Super stocker on gravel > if I were NHRA I would be embarrassed that track that they have a race is the same since it was built many years ago Indy for example still has gravel roads I thought NHRA sold Atlanta for improvements of their tracks guess I was wrong about that