Most Egregiously Enhanced or Under Rated Combo ???
 

Bubski's been away for a while and upon perusing this site has made a few conclusions !! 1. No one is happy . 2. there's a Sh&t ton of bickering about everything from DD's to AHFS , To enhancements !! Its about time to come clean Bubski believes !! You got a problem with a combo's HP and or aftermarket gifts ?? Come clean now !! state your facts , why is it a problem , give some examples of other cars in the SAME class that do not have the ENHANCEMENTS or the HP GIFTS !! All Bubski is asking is to air out your grievances about why your feeling like your taking it in the shorts and intelligently state your case !! Bubski could write a book on bogus combos for real !! However its time to come clean with what is effecting you as the RACER !! Lets here it instead of goin back and forth with innuendo !! Just state what's goin on with clear facts and let the racers know how you feel !! NHRA may look at this on occasion and pick up a few tidbits !! Merry Christmas !! Cheers !!

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And Festivus is here on Classracer lol

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Wow, thanks
What a gift.
A counseling session, brought to you by Stoshu Bubski..
We really need this, like we need...fruitcake

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Like I need a poinsettia in my garage …..

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Will "bubski" come clean with a real name ... doubtful.

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OK I will bite... Every car that runs the same class as me is under rated except MINE

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Merry Christmas Bubski! Everyone is worried about WHO Bubski is?!

You dog runs away and someone shows up at your door with the lost creature. Do you demand ID or grab the animal joyfully and thank the stranger?

Let me put it another way....

Your parked at home depot and come out to find your pick-up sideswiped. An odd looking woman shows up in a tall skinny black hat carrying a broom and said she not only saw the person that did it, but took a pic of it happening and got the plate number in said pic! Do you chastises that stranger and demand their name or??!!

I don't care WHO Bubski is, he's spot on again. I personally don't want to respond on here or even frequent here daily anymore after the argument started on what a muscle car actually was LMAO! The Hemi steering debacle for safety that "no one is going to do"? Last I heard a known chassis shop had about 5 cars lined up or done once they SAFELY found 20hp in the procedure!!!??!!

And about Bubskis question?! I dont have a problem with any combination. What I do have a problem with is everyone cheating the rules with "NHRA cant or WON'T check that"?! Blatant cheating among competitors and/or builders because they realize the lack of tech. There is no integrity in class racing anymore. Damn maybe I was just ignorant and there never was, don't know. I was reading up on Pro Stock engine tech and one of the past builders were discussing valve lightening and procedures they used. here is one of his posts and I'll keep anonymous as it may've been Bubski posting lol:

Stock and SS need that kind of integrity. Damn the whole sport does. I do know just because you can cheat doesn't mean you should. I lost a lot of respect for some when their excuse was " everyone does" or "NHRA cant check (or doesn't check)".
I do believe if you posted your name not many would recognize or know you but I do agree and get what you're trying to do. If I see you at the track, introduce yourself and we'll talk about the good of the NHRA and the SV85B. Just don't ask me to lay a Hemi head on the Storm Vulcan and take a little off the intake side LMAO!
Merry Christmas Bubski

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So I "come clean?" on indexes and get the true issue dropped in my lap by Bubski? Christmas present for becoming a good boy on indexes?
Unlike indexes though, nothing will ever come of this.

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Bubski is sorely disappointed !! With the exception of 1 the "Class Racer Hive Mind " is fully engaged not to engage !! Cheers !!

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I think Bubski should back away from the keyboard, build the car he thinks is the softest and beat AHFS into submission with it instead of pontificating on here . Show us how it is done Bubski! :)

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Ya know Bubski, James has a good point. Please show us what you've got and let me know if you need a hand.

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You know Bubski, seeing how I know you and all, how about you make like Frosty the snowman and just melt away….Thumpety ,Thump, Thump.Thumpety, Thump, Thump…..

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Gotta love a never ending argument.


So a "no name" wants to start a never ending argument, and be amused by the resulting fight.


It's like the putz who puts red ants and black ants in a glass case, and then beats on the case until the two colonies start fighting each other.


No thanks. No one needs a purse fight over opinions. I have better things to do.

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Bubski would like to thank the "Hive Mind " for being more incensed with the pro tree than what is on all your minds as your "pal" with that BS combo walks away and you start talking smack behind his back !! HAHA !! Lets go straight into roller lifters for all in STOCK and also what is a muscle car ?? As per the YAKKK !! Bubski's assuming its a POS in the back 40 of Walmart parking lot that needs the "muscle" of the sqatters to push it around !! Cheers !!

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Bubski. You have some good perspective at times and sometimes you are just stirring it all up for entertainment. I just think hiding behind an imaginary persona is talking behind everyone’s back.

It is pretty easy to be smug, always correct and without fault if you are merely a character in a one person play.

Why not own up to your statements instead of trying to paint the group with attributes that may not apply to most.

Is it that you don’t believe in what you type here? Why not stand up with your words ? They aren’t all bad after all.

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OK Bubski, I'll come clean.
THE FORD 302 IS A BOGUS COMBINATION IN U/SA
There, I said it. Now what are you going to do Bubski.
NHRA won't look at numbers or facts.
And I'm sorry for all those other U/SA's out there running a Ford 302. It is a bogus combination from the beginning. You know it, I know it, and so does all other Stock racers.
There, I said it, now Ill go work on my stuff.

Were is Top Fool when you need him.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA. NO2

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Okay,I'll add another one .
When an LS1 engine that is in A/SA in some cars goes into a 2004 GTO and fits E/SA or F/SA,it should be pretty fast
And it is.

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Most under rated is 1982-1985 carburetor 305 Camaro
RED camaros with special front bumper that magically make 12 HP disappear by Wednesday
Yes I said it
Next !

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I'm a big FE fan

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Those 2015 Challengers and 1970 Cudas are on my list...

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C’mon guys, a little more Christmas spirit is in order LOL

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WTF James, did someone spike your eggnog. LOL. Happy New Year to the MAD Hawaiian ….

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Great. I tried to help.
Now we've got Mr. No Name pitting named racers against one another.
You want me to see if I can get ol' H.P. to kill this thread like he did to the musclecar thread?

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Named racers can only be pitted against each other if they take the bait and allow it. It's stink bait, just sniff it, and swim away.

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You mean he’s Catfishin?

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Wow, some of you guys take this stuff way to serious, I guess I am just the guy that gives you that easy round win, but hey I have fun win or loose. Me and my Brother build our own stuff, this year I am going to put a .013 stroke crank, lighter rocker arms, tighter deck, and a new cam and hope to run .75 under will be happy. No funny stuff on the heads. Brother Bob has probably built more engines then most on this forum, a true machinist actually knows how to hold a micrometer, maybe not a horse power guru but his stuff stays together.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

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I have always believed that if you don't use your given name you shouldn't be able to post on this forum.
This opinion is not a criticism just an observation.

Bubski makes some very good points but his anonymity is self-serving and all about stirring the pot and nothing more. For me that makes "Bubski" a coward and a colossal jerk.

Bubski, don't go away mad, just go away.

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Actually CR is very civil. I left DRR because of two c l o w n s not kept in check. Its as if they are paid to stir up shyt.
They think - It's their job to generate clicks... You lost customers..Click!
I don't have an issue with Bubski. He's been spot on quite a few times in my opinion. I don't run a 396 or a Dime Rocket so I really cannot complain about them. It is hard enough for me to keep up with my stuff.

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Yep absolutely but that is the way this class works. The 4th gen camaros and firebird LT1 and LS1 were so fast with those engines and the torque arm suspension bunch of folks built one..nobody could run beside them ...so NHRA created the F.I.classes. eventually they got so much HP they became natural "B" car right there with all the big block cars. There are very few 04 GTO, s out there so they manage to run under the NHRA radar. I have no problem with that. Its just the way the class works...but yes the LT1 F body's are over factored.

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It's pretty much pointless to argue or whine here about who got the most "enhancements", or who has the most bogus HP rating. Nothing said here will get anything done. It simply creates division and strife.


The best thing that can be done about any of it is for the people who have to race directly against a combination(s) with "enhancements", and/or a bogus factor, to work on their own car, as much as possible, and as best they can, write letters to NHRA for a factor reduction for their combination, and try to push the "bogus" combinations to run hard enough, often enough, to get HP.


That's how the system is supposed to work, and if they can play it, you can, too, if you want to, and you're willing to invest the time and effort. Drag racing, and Stock and Super Stock in particular, isn't really a hobby, if you really want to be successful, it's a way of life.



As the late Ronnie Duke said often, "All it takes to drag race is time and money. All your time, and all your money." And literally, that's what the guys (and gals) who go fast spend. Like any other competition in life, if you're not making that commitment, you're just along for the ride. And hey, if you're just along for the ride, that's cool, there's nothing wrong with that. You're still contributing to the sport.Learn how to have fun where you're at. Just don't expect to be anything but along for the ride.



To be brutally honest, I know that we're almost certain never to be the fastest, or be on top, unless we change cars, combinations, and spend way more money. None of which is likely to happen, since neither of us plays the lottery. But we'll work hard. and try to make anyone who outruns us earn it. And maybe get themselves a few ponies added to their factor.

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Bubski asked a simple question !! As usual it turned into a Sh2t Storm of controversy over the simple facts !! Cheers !!

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Simple question, LOL

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My thoughts as well. What a "marshmallow combo" this is! Needs to be re factored!

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Does it mater what combo is soft? NHRA will do nothing to adjust what the bogus hp ratings are and will never put the correct cars in the correct class that they truly belong in. Just grin and bear it.
That's why we pay dues.
Casey Miles
Stock

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Is it possible that ALL combos can be soft due to minimal tech? Just throwing that out there. I believe in picking a combo that makes you happy car wise, and go racing, have fun, and work to improve it personally based on your budget. Races aren’t won, or lost on CR.

Kevin

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even if you pick a "good" combo it can be out of your control if it is a popular engine platform and somebody else beats it up.
It can also be hard to "protect" a combo that only a handful of cars run because there may not be enough others to bring the average down, or races left to do so.
I think NHRA trying to change things to make it harder to protect a combo is because there has been some obvious cases of protecting combos so they made it harder. Will it work or will racers find a way around it? Time will tell.

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My world is fine...

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Mine too Lane!

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Still here without a name to give yourself some credibility.

So my pick for the most overrated combo are your post without a real name!!! BP

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There are a lot of smart people on this site - one of them should follow his IP address and out him ! ! !