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SS427 12-20-2022 03:43 PM

Thoughts on Jegs All Stars...
 
The announcement has been made that the All Star race is now in Texas. Thoughts on the move?

Keith 944 12-20-2022 03:58 PM

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Holy crap. I always assumed it would be in the middle of the country to allow for all the divisions, a fairly even drive.

tstickff 12-20-2022 04:18 PM

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Not sure I would make that drive if I was the Rep, better have 2 weeks to spare coming from Div 1 with drive time

Mark Faul 12-20-2022 04:43 PM

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Getting closer all the time for guys like me in Division 6!
Columbus-2526 miles.
Indy-2356
Joliet-2187
Ennis-2164

MR DERBY CITY 12-20-2022 05:40 PM

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Anywhere but INDY , already too much going on at The Big Go ….Texas seems a little extreme, geographically I always thought Topeka made the most sense. ……

340Cuda 12-20-2022 06:02 PM

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I was glad to see the multi-year extension.

Adub464Q 12-20-2022 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 672616)
Anywhere but INDY , already too much going on at The Big Go ….Texas seems a little extreme, geographically I always thought Topeka made the most sense. ……

Fully agree with you there! It makes the most sense for everyone...and that comes from a person who lives 18 miles from the track in Texas.

Topeka from a distance and parking standpoint is a no brainer...however, the Topeka national event being in August is probably what is hurting that move. If Topeka national event was not in the summer with the temps there, I think this would make a lot more sense.

Believe the decision was based on getting a little further west (as Mark pointed out, not much of a difference for D6), as well as the Dallas national event being branded with the "Stampede of Speed". There is an opportunity to provide the proper platform that the Allstars deserves, but has been lacking in Indy.

It could pivot back to Chicago at some point I would imagine, but believe there are some reservations about returning everything to the Chicago national event since their extended time off since 2019.

jmcarter 12-20-2022 08:18 PM

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Quite possibly the Greenbrier Equity holdings are closer to Dallas than to Columbus.

Charley Downing 12-20-2022 08:38 PM

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I’m starting to think that when the people at NHRA that make these decisions are asking for everyone’s thoughts they latch on to the worst idea and go with it. I mean who In their right mind looks at Dallas and says yea that a good place for the Allstar race. Even most people/racers in D4 hate that DUMP in Dallas. The pits are terrible, and it will rain at some point, so it’s doomed from the get-go. I’m not even going to go into the terrible logistics for 85% of the people who are lucky to be the rep for there class and division. Extra travel days to and from and the added fuel costs. The only part of this that makes any sense at all is its in Oct and all the points meets but Vegas are completed
I mean its not that hard. I though about it for 5 mins and came up with ideas better than them.
Make St louis fall national event a 4 day race
Move it back to Chicago (maybe that's the plan for 2024)
Move it back to Columbus SPORTS NATIONALS. A sportsman show cased event (according to NHRA LOL)
Move it to Topeka. (But its to hot in July/Aug in Topeka. Get over it its hot from July- labor day everywhere)

Rose Racing 12-20-2022 08:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 672629)
I’m starting to think that when the people at NHRA that make these decisions are asking for everyone’s thoughts they latch on to the worst idea and go with it. I mean who In their right mind looks at Dallas and says yea that a good place for the Allstar race. Even most people/racers in D4 hate that DUMP in Dallas. The pits are terrible, and it will rain at some point, so it’s doomed from the get-go. I’m not even going to go into the terrible logistics for 85% of the people who are lucky to be the rep for there class and division. Extra travel days to and from and the added fuel costs. The only part of this that makes any sense at all is its in Oct and all the points meets but Vegas are completed
I mean its not that hard. I though about it for 5 mins and came up with ideas better than them.
Make St louis fall national event a 4 day race
Move it back to Chicago (maybe that's the plan for 2024)
Move it back to Columbus SPORTS NATIONALS. A sportsman show cased event (according to NHRA LOL)
Move it to Topeka. (But its to hot in July/Aug in Topeka. Get over it its hot from July- labor day everywhere)

X2 St Louis National makes perfect sense right on the edge of D3 and D5

Mike Pearson 12-20-2022 08:56 PM

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Maybe make it in a different division each year. That would be fair. If you don’t want to go then the next person in line gets the spot. Don’t the contestants get some travel money to attend.

BKSG1198 12-20-2022 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 672632)
Maybe make it in a different division each year. That would be fair. If you don’t want to go then the next person in line gets the spot. Don’t the contestants get some travel money to attend.

I'm sure Keith or Austin can chime in on this as I know Keith has been to Chicago & Indy but, I don't think the travel money is much. Different divisions would be cool but, think the distance might be a little too much for some guys, Definity would be a bucket list for many, D6 going out to Epping or D1 going to Sonoma.

MR DERBY CITY 12-20-2022 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 672629)
I’m starting to think that when the people at NHRA that make these decisions are asking for everyone’s thoughts they latch on to the worst idea and go with it. I mean who In their right mind looks at Dallas and says yea that a good place for the Allstar race. Even most people/racers in D4 hate that DUMP in Dallas. The pits are terrible, and it will rain at some point, so it’s doomed from the get-go. I’m not even going to go into the terrible logistics for 85% of the people who are lucky to be the rep for there class and division. Extra travel days to and from and the added fuel costs. The only part of this that makes any sense at all is its in Oct and all the points meets but Vegas are completed
I mean its not that hard. I though about it for 5 mins and came up with ideas better than them.
Make St louis fall national event a 4 day race
Move it back to Chicago (maybe that's the plan for 2024)
Move it back to Columbus SPORTS NATIONALS. A sportsman show cased event (according to NHRA LOL)
Move it to Topeka. (But its to hot in July/Aug in Topeka. Get over it its hot from July- labor day everywhere)

All good points Charley, they don’t call it the Death Plex for nothing…...Back in the day the Allstars was SHOWCASED at the sportsnats in Bowling Green….

Brett C 12-20-2022 10:04 PM

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The Jeg’s All Stars taking place in Ennis might go down in history as one of the worst decisions that can be made!
We love the Meyer family, but those pits are just the worst! Unless there is a resurfacing in the plans, just an awful decision!

KRatcliff 12-20-2022 10:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 672632)
Maybe make it in a different division each year. That would be fair. If you don’t want to go then the next person in line gets the spot. Don’t the contestants get some travel money to attend.

Why not put it somewhere in the same Division as the previous year's overall winner. Add more incentive to winning it and keeping it closer to home for the winners so to speak.

Mebbe incentive is a dirty word to the NHRA. Who knows?

Blackgar 12-20-2022 10:43 PM

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Works for me. It either needs to be at Ennis or Topeka to be central for most of the country. Just curious how many of you folks that are doing the griping have actually been there for that race. It’s been years for us but the 28hrs from San Antonio sucked. I can’t imagine coming from California or south Florida. Should have been placed more central years ago

Tom Goldman 12-20-2022 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BKSG1198 (Post 672633)
I'm sure Keith or Austin can chime in on this as I know Keith has been to Chicago & Indy but, I don't think the travel money is much. Different divisions would be cool but, think the distance might be a little too much for some guys, Definity would be a bucket list for many, D6 going out to Epping or D1 going to Sonoma.

I think I got around $255 to go to Chicago , I think Iggy said he got around $275 the following year .He had 55 more miles.
I can tell you it wasn't enough to pay for the repairs needed on the motorhome after crossing the Indiana turnpike !!

pro7474 12-21-2022 12:23 AM

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Lets see
San Francisco to Joliet 2108 miles
New York to Joliet 802 miles

San Francisco to Indy 2258 miles
New York to Indy 709 miles

San Francisco to Dallas 1733 miles
New York to Dallas 1537 miles

the farthest from both coast

Seattle to Dallas 2107 miles
Maine to Dallas 2000 miles

There is nothing central about Indy or Joliet, the west coast racers have been traveling 2x the distance as the east coast racers for years. Dallas is about a perfect central location and the west coast racers will still have a 10% longer drive

Larry Hill 12-21-2022 08:35 AM

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The pits are better in St Louis and Topeka. Topeka in the fall was a good race.

Shaun Vincent 12-21-2022 11:00 AM

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Jegs All Star Race should be a 4 day race in Topeka on Memorial Day weekend. That is the weekend Topeka was on for years. Centrally located, huge tech buildings for tear down, all cement parking. Memorial Day gives racers a travel day back home and/or a rain date.

Ron Ortiz 12-21-2022 11:33 AM

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Driving distances vary according to mileage. There is a lot of vacant land between the west coast and the midwest. Lot of miles to get through south FL and GA heading north. East coast not far but congested and rough.
Thought title sponsor selected site.
Personally I think Bradenton at the end of the year for a week. Great temps for December, beach close by, Disney/Universal around the corner.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA. We need to race and enjoy

BKSG1198 12-21-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun Vincent (Post 672659)
Jegs All Star Race should be a 4 day race in Topeka on Memorial Day weekend. That is the weekend Topeka was on for years. Centrally located, huge tech buildings for tear down, all cement parking. Memorial Day gives racers a travel day back home and/or a rain date.

Almost always tradition in D1 to have Maple Grove on Memorial Day Weekend here, I mean could change but, it's like everything in the world - Death, Taxes and Racing at MG on Memorial Day Weekend for us in D1

J.R. Haddad 12-21-2022 08:54 PM

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While there are some great ideas on this thread on where the All-Star Race should be held, lets review this. Would you run it with the Sports-Nationals,
if I were Jegs, I wouldn't. They are already throwing a ton of marketing dollars at that event, they would not receive many more impressions on customers for all that extra money. There marketing dollars at that race will reach 90% of their intended audience. Adding all the All-Star Marketing might move the needle to 92%, not worth it.
If the next two choices were Topeka and Dallas, from a marketing point of view, Dallas with the 10-12 day event gets my money hands down. That's
my marketing point of view.
From a racer point of view, we ask sportsman racers to travel more miles than most F-1 teams. Somewhere around St. Louis is the middle. Maybe each Class can raise 50.00 or so from all the racers and we can help our reps get there a little easier. J.R.

BKSG1198 12-21-2022 09:27 PM

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I know D7 does something in the .90 Categories in a "Run for the Pot" like a Calcutta where 50% goes to the winner and 50% goes to the JEGS AS Team to help them out. I believe the Rep from each previous year's team is in charge of going up and down the lanes and collecting to cash.

Brett C 12-21-2022 10:06 PM

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St. Louis

Blackgar 12-21-2022 10:21 PM

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St. Louis still favors the north east!!!!!!!!

Bryan Worner 12-22-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackgar (Post 672643)
Works for me. It either needs to be at Ennis or Topeka to be central for most of the country. Just curious how many of you folks that are doing the griping have actually been there for that race. It’s been years for us but the 28hrs from San Antonio sucked. I can’t imagine coming from California or south Florida. Should have been placed more central years ago

How would anybody “gripe” about a facility they’ve never been to? I’ve been there and the descriptions are spot on! The track, starting line area and concessions area are nice, the pits are a dump! I commented on a different thread, how can you have the most prestigious sportsman race at a track owned by someone who obviously hates sportsman racing, as is blatantly evident by the condition of the sportsman pits???

GTS340 12-22-2022 11:20 AM

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Someone should do a video of the pits. I've personally have never been there. A picture to compare to the adjectives used might help get some attention.

Paul Haszlauer
C/SA 7019

Dale Hulquist 12-22-2022 11:36 AM

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The pits have a very similar appearance to the lunar surface of the moon , just a little worse... And I have been to the track many times.

Lenny5160 12-22-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GTS340 (Post 672722)
Someone should do a video of the pits. I've personally have never been there. A picture to compare to the adjectives used might help get some attention.

Paul Haszlauer
C/SA 7019

I was there fore the first time this past October. I can still vividly picture Super Comp runner-up Kyle Secrest driving to the lanes for R3. It was like a scene from a Mad Max movie - a dragster driving toward me through the desert, with a massive dust cloud in tow.

My Super Street car was immediately covered when I took it out, and it was still completely caked with dust when I put it back in the trailer.

Even Pro Mod and Factory Stock Showdown cars were parked in dirt. It's awful.

Dirk Olson 12-23-2022 03:37 PM

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A group of us from the upper D5 went down to the DLB at Dallas a couple years ago. We were under the impression at that Dallas was a premier track but in fact was not. The pits are, well not best to say the least. really was a dust bowl. It was impossible to keep the cars clean. Imagine coming from Dallas to St Louis the next week from gravel to black top everywhere or park in grass pit on black top. Also, at Dallas the road getting into track is a Trailer destroyer never seen nothing like it. I doubt that we will come back and if we do major improvements need to take place.

Dirk Olson
A/S


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