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JOE ZOOM 05-24-2022 09:41 AM

Trailer tire issues??
 
Im towing a 24ft trailer with 15 inch wheels...wanting to know if installing a 16 inch rim will help with blowing tires out??

Thanks...joe mocci

Andy Friar 05-24-2022 09:51 AM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Wheel dia is just one factor to check/ consider, but pretty low on the list IMO. Loading and weight balance. Bent axles and/or out of alignment to each other and causing tire scrub. Not enough air in them when the trailer is fully loaded is another heat generator that causes tire delamination and thus failure. Bent rims can causing heat build up or leaking rims due to corrosion/rust at the tire bead can happen too. Good tires are another key factor. Both weight rating and brand. Had best luck w/ Goodyears on race trailers and commonly used on test trailers at the various OE proving grounds around here in Michigan. Just my $.02

Painter 05-24-2022 09:55 AM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
This subject has been covered repeatedly, but the short of it is. Yes 16 help if you get good ones with the higher load range. But you need to watch the heights of the tire for clearance.
Load range E and F 15 inch tires are available and have cured my tire issues!

Signman 05-24-2022 10:21 AM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Joe go to 16" with E rated tires most of the headaches will go away.
Keep the cold tire pressure to the max.
Goodyear makes the best trailer tire. Some have good luck with LT tires but have heard not running trailer rated tires can award you with a ticket in some states.
I have run 15" with lots of failure. My buddy searches and runs good quality E rated 15" tires with success but he has an aluminum trailer with a tube chassis car carries basic tools and minimal spare parts.
Switched to 16" have run cheap E rated trailer tires and E rated LT tires with good results you get what you pay for.

The best have been 16" Goodyear only one tire developed belt shift on on the back axle which scrubs. Caught it before it went flat luckily. There was a vibration going down the road upon inspection found a belt shifted.
When I bought a new trailer a few years back Dan Fletcher automatically included the 16" tire option. I asked about the option and he said it was already included and did not recommend 15" tires at all.

Mike Pearson 05-24-2022 10:23 AM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Switching from 15 inch to 16 inch and using a good LT rated tire cured all of my tire issues. I have not blown a tire since. I have been using the LT 215/85/16 Firestone Transforce tires on my trailer for the past 10-15 years and no tire failures. Keep them at the correct pressure and protected from the sun. My trailer is stored inside so that helps.

442OLDS 05-24-2022 10:26 AM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
I've been using a 24 ft enclosed trailer with 15 inch wheels for nearly 20 years with no issues.
What brand tires and how old are they?

Tom Goldman 05-24-2022 10:26 AM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
If the trailer fender has enough room to allow for a larger diameter tire that will turn less revolutions per mile , yes , along with being able to go to a higher load range than is commonly available with 15" tires.
Being able to go to a load range E ,10 ply rating is a big step over the 15" tires that are commonly used on trailers.
One thing that is an absolute necessity is using bolt in type brass valve stems . Rubber stems , even the reinforced light truck type are the cause of many trailer tire blowouts .

KennyAnderson 05-24-2022 11:29 AM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Like Mike mentioned above, get 16" wheels and go to a good LT tire. I swear by Firestone Transforce. I have used 225/75/16's on my trailers with low fenders and if they fit 235/85/16's. Get at least 5 years out of a set.

JGrossijr 05-24-2022 11:41 AM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
If you are willing to go to 16" rims, Carlisle has a "G" rated CSL 16 tire that is a 14 ply all-steel body, 110 psi, rated for 4000 lbs. and 81 mph. I have been very happy with this tire and will not go back to "E" rated tires.
Make sure the rims can handle 110 psi. and put covers on the tires if the trailer is stored outdoors.
Jim G

Keith 944 05-24-2022 12:31 PM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JGrossijr (Post 661968)
If you are willing to go to 16" rims, Carlisle has a "G" rated CSL 16 tire that is a 14 ply all-steel body, 110 psi, rated for 4000 lbs. and 81 mph. I have been very happy with this tire and will not go back to "E" rated tires.
Make sure the rims can handle 110 psi. and put covers on the tires if the trailer is stored outdoors.
Jim G

This is exactly what I use, haven’t had issues for the last 10 years I change them at five year intervals and sell the set for around $200 used.
I put a ton of miles on my stuff and it is always stored outside but in the winter I put covers over the ones exposed. Oh and be sure to use metal valvestems!!! I also use the balance beads I think it helps on tire wear

lorenr 05-24-2022 01:44 PM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Is storing the trailer away from the sun the most important thing? I have been told that the ultraviolet rays from the sun attack the synthetic rubber in tires, but that ozone from our atmosphere is even more damaging.

I use 295 80 22.5 tires on our motor home and have had one blow out which was unforgettable. Since then I've learned, pull them off after six years from date of manufacture, if in the sun belt and seven to eight years if in a northern US climate.

Also stay away from Michelins. I had steer tires crack at 25 K miles and five years. Rig was mostly stored in a warehouse. Michelin just said it was a bad break. I've since learned that Michelins are mean't for big rigs that wear them out in a couple of years.

Loren

Mike Pearson 05-24-2022 02:38 PM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lorenr (Post 661977)
Is storing the trailer away from the sun the most important thing? I have been told that the ultraviolet rays from the sun attack the synthetic rubber in tires, but that ozone from our atmosphere is even more damaging.

I use 295 80 22.5 tires on our motor home and have had one blow out which was unforgettable. Since then I've learned, pull them off after six years from date of manufacture, if in the sun belt and seven to eight years if in a northern US climate.

Also stay away from Michelins. I had steer tires crack at 25 K miles and five years. Rig was mostly stored in a warehouse. Michelin just said it was a bad break. I've since learned that Michelins are mean't for big rigs that wear them out in a couple of years.

Loren

I had Michelins on my toter. Same issue. blew the front left tire twice. No more Michelins. The rears will last longer as they are duals and can support more weight. 5 years on steer tires is about all i will let them go. too big of a pain to get a tire guy out at 2 am to change a tire on the side of the road. I put some Kelly KRH on this time around. so far so good and they ride nice.

1299 05-24-2022 02:44 PM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Yes and I also got away from using trailer tires and when with a truck tire. The tires are going on 3 years with no problem. And as you know I put around 7000-10000 mile a year on them

garyc 05-24-2022 02:55 PM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
most tire blowouts are from wrong load range and under inflated, use at least a E rated TRAILER tire, had D rated that came on new hallmark, blow all out within 2 years

GTX JOHN 05-24-2022 04:54 PM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
16 inch are a huge improvement as already stated!

However, many if not most manufacturers do NOT have
room forothe taller tires on their standard trailers my son tells me
and he builds and sell trailers.

Best to order the taller fenders when trailer is built to make sure.

There are some 225/15 radial load range F and G tires available
in that size if you do not have room for 16 inch. Hercules is one brand that
I remember.

340Cuda 05-25-2022 11:19 AM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JOE ZOOM (Post 661959)
Im towing a 24ft trailer with 15 inch wheels...wanting to know if installing a 16 inch rim will help with blowing tires out??

Thanks...joe mocci

GOODYEAR ENDURANCE ST225 /75 R15 117N E1 BSW

I got some of these from Discount Tire for my 24ft enclosed trailer and they seem fine so far. They are noticeably heavier than the other tires I have had in the past.

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...year-endurance

ALMACK 05-25-2022 03:02 PM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lorenr (Post 661977)
Is storing the trailer away from the sun the most important thing? I have been told that the ultraviolet rays from the sun attack the synthetic rubber in tires, but that ozone from our atmosphere is even more damaging.

I use 295 80 22.5 tires on our motor home and have had one blow out which was unforgettable. Since then I've learned, pull them off after six years from date of manufacture, if in the sun belt and seven to eight years if in a northern US climate.

Also stay away from Michelins. I had steer tires crack at 25 K miles and five years. Rig was mostly stored in a warehouse. Michelin just said it was a bad break. I've since learned that Michelins are mean't for big rigs that wear them out in a couple of years.

Loren

The sun's rays has never made tires better.

I cover all of mine on all trailers and vehicles

ALMACK 05-25-2022 03:08 PM

Re: Trailer tire issues??
 
I try to run LT truck tires on all of my trailers now with 16's.
After I found out that trailer tires are not regulated, I don't want anything to do with ST trailer tires anymore.
Plus, I have had too many blowouts with ST tires.


The problem is there are maybe just 2 aftermarket companies that I have found that carry 16 inch wheels with a 5 lug, 4.5 inch bolt pattern. Both are 7 inches wide. No one makes a 16 x 6 with the 5 on 4 1/2 b.p.

The other option is 16 " wheels from a Ford 5 lug vehicle but those are 7 inchers as well.


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