CLASS RACER FORUM

CLASS RACER FORUM (https://classracer.com/classforum/index.php)
-   Stock and Super Stock (https://classracer.com/classforum/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   Racing without a purse....... (https://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=81711)

Billy Nees 03-16-2022 07:42 AM

Racing without a purse.......
 
So would you still race if the purse went away?

http://competitionplus.com/drag-raci...o-pro-modified

rick winchester 03-16-2022 08:27 AM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Hell Ive been doing that for years Rick

442OLDS 03-16-2022 09:02 AM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Is the 2022 National event purse even posted anywhere?
One guy on another forum said he got $1395 for winning Top Dragster at Pomona.($105 of it was for California taxes), but I always thought Top Dragster got $2,000?
What is the Super Stock and Stock National event purse in 2022?

Adub464Q 03-16-2022 09:41 AM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 658860)
Is the 2022 National event purse even posted anywhere?
One guy on another forum said he got $1395 for winning Top Dragster at Pomona.($105 of it was for California taxes), but I always thought Top Dragster got $2,000?
What is the Super Stock and Stock National event purse in 2022?

Each national event purse is posted on NHRA Racer, under national events, then listed under Policies and Guidelines, the link is labeled NHRA Lucas Oil Event Purse. Click on each event for a breakdown of purse.

https://www.nhraracer.com/content/ge...846&zoneid=175

Nmbr1GMfan 03-16-2022 09:48 AM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
At this point, everyone is racing without a purse. When the $$$ doesn't add up to the expense it's just a hobby, and that's 99% of us.

CMcAllister 03-16-2022 04:06 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Pro Mod cars are self funded. NHRA just getting the use of free monkeys for the circus.

Jackson says "You can go any weekend and race for $10,000 with a Pro Modified car, and the type of resources it takes to come run for $7,500 is disheartening." Yet, he shows up for the big show. Granted, he has other sources of income to help offset the costs of running NHRA events.

Walliser says "We look at Pro Mod as a category we want for a long time to come, It's got a huge future with us" Then he says "It has to be self-sustainable. The entertainment value is one thing. We need a sponsor..." So, if it's not paying to be there, it's not so huge or entertaining enough?

Do people pay to see Pro Mods or Sportsman racers or not? If neither have any value to the people putting on the show, then I guess they just need to expect that they have to pay to be there.

But if they are considered to be self sufficient and with 100 cars showing up @ $300+ each, I would hope to see more than $1500 to win offered by whom ever is promoting or running the event. And maybe a little more effort put into contingencies.

BG56 03-16-2022 07:17 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMcAllister (Post 658886)
Pro Mod cars are self funded. NHRA just getting the use of free monkeys for the circus.

Jackson says "You can go any weekend and race for $10,000 with a Pro Modified car, and the type of resources it takes to come run for $7,500 is disheartening." Yet, he shows up for the big show. Granted, he has other sources of income to help offset the costs of running NHRA events.

Walliser says "We look at Pro Mod as a category we want for a long time to come, It's got a huge future with us" Then he says "It has to be self-sustainable. The entertainment value is one thing. We need a sponsor..." So, if it's not paying to be there, it's not so huge or entertaining enough?

Do people pay to see Pro Mods or Sportsman racers or not? If neither have any value to the people putting on the show, then I guess they just need to expect that they have to pay to be there.

But if they are considered to be self sufficient and with 100 cars showing up @ $300+ each, I would hope to see more than $1500 to win offered by whom ever is promoting or running the event. And maybe a little more effort put into contingencies.

My ears are always open, I hear a lot of things. What I've heard about PM (not from a competitor) ranges from each driver/team putting up IN ADVANCE, either $30k or entry fees from every race. Maybe fees total the 30k, I don't know. But with the price of those operations having to race for $7500 (to win or purse?) is a large joke. I didn't see J&A (sponsor) at Gainesville. Sounds like a Gubmint scheme!

AJ Laferty 03-16-2022 07:49 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Yes, i would race without a purse. I autocross (a form of class racing) at least 10 times a year for the last 30, none of which offered a purse---most don't even offer a trophy except end of year. IMHO, adding a purse only motivates people to invest more money to chase that elusive money. If i recall correctly, i read somewhere the Internal Revenue Service said that auto racers will spend on average, eight times what they have the possibility to win. That is, if they won EVERY time they raced. I don't know the validity of it, but my observation is that people throw money at racing... it is the old story, if you want to become wealthy by racing, start out filthy rich...

Dale Hulquist 03-16-2022 08:23 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
I would never attend another race as a competitor if there was no purse nor would alot of other racers, it's way too expensive to maintain the racecars and run the support equipment up and down the road with no chance of recovery of expenses or for free, just like I wouldn't go to another casino or sporting clay event if there was no chance to win money, I believe if NHRA takes that stance sportsman racing with them will rapidly diminish along with their enhancements like executive salaries that membership fees and entry fees support 100%. My observation is we all have options and it's not Illegal to save money in this country Yet ...

novassdude 03-17-2022 04:23 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
I guess that would depend on the entry. I sure wouldn't pay $375 to be there to win nothing.

GTX JOHN 03-17-2022 11:47 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Last month when Jon and I got to the Semis. =
We went to get our contingency verified and where
there we about a dozen postings a couple years ago,
There was only owene and they did not pay because we
had purchased their product over 3 year ago -We got zip.

I went to Semis on a $375. entry and got $500. - Whoopee!

Basically - Compared to Racing years age we are pretty much
racing for NOTHING!

Do I Care?
Not really!

JWhalen58 03-18-2022 07:21 AM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
We are just racing for tow gas/fuel money these days.

Larry Hill 03-18-2022 08:08 AM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
(nmca)

Dan Walcott 03-18-2022 08:59 AM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Check out your areas Stock/Super Stock races.

For me it's, Great Lakes Stock/ Super Stock Association ,

You are racing the same divisional racers that you race with at Lucas Divisional races

Give them a try, You may be pleasantly surprised.

For me it put the FUN back into this sport ,hobby , business

Frank Castros 03-18-2022 09:37 AM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
The ROI for Pro Stock boggles my mind.

jamie2370 03-18-2022 10:32 AM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Momma said "If you are gonna be dumb, you better be tough.". I would hope to think I am pretty tough then

e vassar 03-18-2022 01:45 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Walcott (Post 658940)
Check out your areas Stock/Super Stock races.

For me it's, Great Lakes Stock/ Super Stock Association ,

You are racing the same divisional racers that you race with at Lucas Divisional races

Give them a try, You may be pleasantly surprised.

For me it put the FUN back into this sport ,hobby , business

I wish we had one in D4.
I thought there was a stk s/stk organization getting set up here awhile back..but haven't heard anything recently.

jimi 03-18-2022 01:57 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
[QUOTE=Billy Nees;658852]So would you still race if the purse went away?

i think the "purse" should go away and the winning prizes should be managed by the racers.

Mike Jones 03-18-2022 04:25 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 658941)
The ROI for Pro Stock boggles my mind.

I don`t imagine there is one, through NHRA purses anyway. There is at least one Pro Stock guy that comes on here, maybe he can enlighten us.

Terry Cain 03-18-2022 06:09 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Racing without a purse would include racing without an entrée?

BILL TAYLOR 03-18-2022 08:19 PM

Re: Racing without a purse.......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 658943)
Momma said "If you are gonna be dumb, you better be tough.". I would hope to think I am pretty tough then

My father always said "there's no use bein' dumb if ya ain't gonna be good at it", usually after I did some bonehead thing growing up.Bill Taylor B/S1005.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:39 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.