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I been seeing a lot of people using someone else national or other sanction events to promote their own needs.

1. Do you have written permission?
2. Keep doing it without permission, other people take the hit.

Here a hint, promote your local Stock Super Stock events,
travel to them, if your a real promoter of the class, you would do it for the sport.
Not to promote your own Facebook page or YouTube channel.

Been promote the sport for a long time, get paid or not, I will always help promote this sport I loved.

Bill Baders quote.
A complaining customers is your friend...
Thanks.

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I do not understand of what exact actions this post is pertaining.
Could you take the time to explain in a little more detail
what exactly the is the particular issue?

I suspect it is referring to our promotion of the next week
Stock/Superstock $10,000 race = but I am really not at all
clear on it.

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Sure

There are people going to National events and others events, that belong to the NHRA and using it to promote there own Facebook or YouTube page, to make money off it.
How about promote there own stuff, not piggy back on others groups events.
If you have permission, no problem.

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Sorry but I'm still confused....

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Bandimere Speedway and the NHRA exclusively and in perpetuity own any and all rights to broadcast, transmit, film, tape, capture, overhear, photograph, collect or record by any means, process, medium or device (including but not limited to television, cable television, radio, pay-per-view, closed circuit television, satellite signal, digital signal, film productions, audiotape productions, transmissions over the Internet, public and private online services authorized by NHRA or Bandimere Speedway, sales and other commercial projects, and the like), whether or not currently in existence, all images, sounds and data (including but not limited to in-car audio, in-car video, in-car radio, other electronic transmissions between cars and crews, and timing and scoring information) arising from or during any event, and

Photography and Video Policy

Due to the unlawful video, photo and trademark reproductions with respect to participants, events and trade names, it is necessary to strictly enforce the Bandimere Speedway and NHRA rules and guidelines with respect to the usage and sale of such media. Bandimere Speedway does not prohibit the use of still or video cameras at the race track; however, the sale of such photos or video is strictly prohibited without prior written approval of Bandimere Speedway or the NHRA, depending upon the event. No drones are allowed.

I know it a lot…… but at all NHRA events

Don’t want to see small guy get hurt….

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Doesn't this entire website kinda do that?

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So if I take a picture of a big wheelstand of a SS car from the stands, at a National Event, and then use it on a poster for an Association Event, is that my infraction?
MJ

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Think it’s called Public Domain

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Sooooo, let's stop beating-around-the-bush here. Are you saying that Ken, Evan and Bobby are somehow breaking some kind of "Official" NHRA rule by broadcasting an interview or review/report from the pits of an NHRA event?

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So you feel Ken should not be promoting Classracer while he is at an NHRA event? Or Bobby Fazio should not be promoting Classracing today or his driver interviews while at a NHRA event?

I can't figure out why you would even blurt this statement out? Both or all those platforms are for the purpose of getting more people interested, putting more cars at these events and possibly fans in the stands. Bobby has even had people from NHRA on his Podcast.

And you should just come out and name these people if you have a gripe, not put up a post that is as clear as mud trying to decipher.
Maybe put your own name out too.

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When I saw this post, I had no idea what this was actually about.
Now that it is taking direction, I think it is the worst thing in the world to not encourage the promoting of Stock Eliminator or Sportsman type racing.
I really don't get the point of this post at all.
I think it's bad enough that National Dragster now consists of ONE page of coverage for National event class winners.
The more promoting the better.Nobody is losing any "sales".If anything,it will lead to the demise of all of Sportsman drag racing.

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We need all the exposure we can get! We have a small, if any, fan base.
When it comes to promoting this hard working, fully invested, group of great racers, too say we are on our own is an understatement.

Now, anyone who wants to put together a pod cast or social media program to support and promote stock and super stock drag racing in a positive manner,
I say, more power to them! As long as it is done with tact.

As far as the covenants of “owning” the content of any event, and “using” it to promote said social media format. I think, under the current circumstances with regard to lack of spectators, the social media route is our last and best hope to promote.
After all, It’s not like sportsman drag racing is the NFL.

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"official22yrs", I agree with the others. If you have something to say, SAY IT. Stop being cryptic. Either have the courage to say it coherently, or don't say anything.

When the NFL threatens to sue anyone who uses the word "Superbowl", because it's their property, I think it's an amazing case of a runaway ego. I'm no marketing genius, but I'll bet that there are a lot of companies that would love to have people spreading their brand by constant use of a product name.

So if the NHRA decides to go this route (they have in some instances), that's up to them. It would be foolish, as it would just chase people away. They seem to understand that the more people talk about their brand, the better for everyone!

But the NHRA hasn't brought this up, you have! (I think.)

Tell us who you are and what you are mumbling. You'll get more respect just by doing that.

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And on top of everything else, bitch about someone covering sportsman racing but don't have the guts to post your name.

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My name is John Irving and I have been racing in Stock ever since 1964.

My son and I are both currently racing Stock and SS (Both down to
last 4 @ Pomona 2022) at this point in time.

What Mr. Official is your name and when is the last time you raced a stock or
SS car?

Are you currently a NHRA employee and are you in fact speaking in you
capacity with the NHRA organization?

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I really do not care who this person is. He/She has an opinion and that they are entitled to express.
NHRA is not the National Football League. The value if their media property is arguably no where near other Major Sports venues IMO.

NHRA's business model from the entertainment standpoint is clearly the Pro Classes. I do think that they need to differentiate the Pro from the Sportsman classes regarding the blanket media policy that was previously posted.

I actually think that it would be in their best interest to engage and allow those "other" outlets to cover what they are not. I think the partnership with approved classy outlets would actually enhance the big picture or what is NHRA.

Giving those partners access to the Sportsman classes would expand the viewership and possibly interest in NHRA.

Just my personal thoughts.

Robin

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John,

I didn't mean you guys, I meant Mr official22years. I'm still not even sure what he is getting at but I wouldn't complain unless I was willing to use my name.

Jim Caughlin
SS6019 (and I have been racing in SS since '86)

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Years ago, there was a sports radio talk show in New York. It was called "Mike and the Mad Dog". Huge drivetime audience, largest in the country. It featured ALL of the top sports personalities doing spot appearances. On Sunday morning, Mike would host a football show called "NFL Now". It went on for years. One day, the National Football League said you can`t call it NFL anymore. As I recall, they wouldn`t allow it under any conditions. NHRA`s lawyers might see some potential in sportsman race cars. Who knew?

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I have no problem with people making money however they can, it's easy to see you aren't self employed or never have been.

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Maybe someone from NHRA should revisit the 501(c) (6) of IRS Code of 1986

Mission Statement
I may not have it verbatim but you’ll get the idea.

“Promote and advance the common business interest of those engaged in the sport of drag racing and the hot rod industry; to promote safety, sportsmanship and fellowship and exchange of knowledge and information among hot rod enthusiasts...........”

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Well that means this page and any facebook group that uses the NHRA name would be gone, Nostalgia pictures, current ones, basically someone is pissed that they post NHRA updates on their page which I have no problem with if I'm not at the event because you sure as hell dont get much sportsman stuff from NHRA on a race weekend.

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Strange that Mr. official22yrs hasn't taken the time to respond.

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I think Jerry Nash is the guy. He posts a lot of great content. His points may be valid, but it seems more like he is bent because he physically goes out and gathers pictures. Maybe he is a bit miffed that some just screen scrape stuff and post it.

Credit where credit is due, but there is no reason to suppress the coverage of sportsman coverage in my opinion.

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If he has some valid point to make, perhaps he could explain his point clearly instead some strange coded message that no one seems to be able to understand?

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Best post this thread is ever going to see.

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This bright red Nova flies high off the starting line, similar to its super stock counterparts, and routinely finds itself at the top of the qualifying sheet. What makes it even cooler, it is still sporting a factory bench seat and steering wheel.

PS I never ask for money for driver interviews, I don't have any sponsors, and I travel on my own dime.

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Bobby will you be making the trip to the $5k race at Rock Falls this summer?

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Some folks seem to think that if someone makes a YT video, they are making money off it. Not the case.
Not all YT videos are monetized. It depends on lots of restrictions.
You would need to have so many videos, subscribers, and also certain subject matter.
Selling items in your videos, using copywrited music samples for instructional purposes. are just some reasons for not being monetized.

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Bobby Does a huge Amount of Free advertising for many companies and Racers, including NHRA ..99 % of Bobby's videos are not of a NHRA race The amount of Promoting the race and racers helps the viewers sponsors via Advertising impressions big-time everyone including NHRA and Potentials sponsors should support Bobbys interviews he is the first person to do the Interviews with Stock and Super Stock racers in a through way including the information about the race car. Everyone enjoys them. Every company has millions of videos of their venue and they encourage this free promotion of their company or sport. In fact, if there is anyone wanting to sponsor Bobby's interviews give him a call He is the best for racers and racing in general for sure.

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Some explanation would nice. Jerry actually does a nice job of posting videos of the Midwest Class racers and other area racers in the South Dakota, Minnesota and Even over in Wisconsin.

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I agree, guys please stay respectful, and I hope he responds. I think this thread is very important. I also think like many have said, it benefits all when we promote the sportsman racer. We are not dealing with the pros here, as you all know I don't take photos of the pros. I don't see NHRA having issue with Class Racer or any other media outlet that promotes sportsman racing.

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Keep up the good work Ken
David