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Is it my imagination OR did a few pro stock teams bring their diving trunks to Vegas. ?? KUDOS to my good friend Larry Hill for coining the phrase ….

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It would appear so.

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Seem to recall the Summit teams tried that very same game last year, but without the desired result.

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They were pretty open about it on TV tonight. Anderson even said he started the whole thing. Only one that was really obvious was Coughlin shutting off for Erica.

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You might also recall that Erica slammed Greg’s “unsportsmanlike” conduct in trying to play the ladder game in hopes of helping Line’s championship bid. I always had a lot of admiration for Erica’s perseverance in climbing to the top of PS but her attitude the last couple of years has been disappointing. For literally decades KB racing has always played the game hard and fair, some of that of course is from Greg working with WJ so many years and then when you add Line in the mix it’s pretty much always will stay that way. Dallas Glenn is continuing in that tradition, was sorry to see Bo joining the “dark side” for next year.

Don’t think Troy would fit in the Lambeck diving trunks, Elite must have several pair in the trailer.

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The KB team has never as far as I know never laid down to let the racer with the opportunity to win the championship get a free pass round so the championship would be easier, since it would be a sacrifice run. Jason Line took out Greg Anderson when Anderson was Number 1 at the time and it cost Anderson the championship that year and Erica ended up the champ. As far as qualifying to get to the right position, so you can race , and gamble, to take out the other race team racers, I don't see a problem. Arron Stanford red light with a .014 against Glenn, and Stanfield is part of Elite. Butner was part of elite, and it looks like he ran hard with a .056 lite against Erica, but the powerplant is supplied by Elite. Second round Erica has to take out McGaha, which was a race. And third round she races couglin, who was quicker in previous rounds, but he slows. It pretty obvious to me. I booed the tv when couglin lifted against Erica. Final was a race, but Erica did not have the power. Yes Elite, to me is buying racers under the elite umbrella, to lay down when they race Erica, so Elite can get the championship. Pomona will be very interesting

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"Ladder manipulation" happens. Sportsmen and/or pros. 'MAYBE' the lily white pink car jumped out of gear while leading. But for Erica to come on national TV and deny, deny, deny-she could be a politician. Also hilarious for her to say 'what we have can't be bought'. EVERYTHING at Elite can be bought!! Sue me....

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You pretty much nailed it …………….

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A competitor can chose to lose anytime they want. I do not believe fix was on because Erica had a .016 light. She would have been later than that if she was in the know. just my 2 cents

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Crazy thing, it's been happening for years....this just happens to be the latest news that has everyone talking and saying how they don't think it's fair....funny how nobody mentioned how Eddie K. lost "oil pressure" against Angelle 2nd round of PSB to give her a bye-run. I see it happen all the time when team cars are involved in the sportsman ranks, boss man is in the hunt for a win or championship and ladders work out that they run the "team car" in the semis or finals and it turns into a bye run for the main car. Just how things work out and why you invest in a 2nd car for times like that. It is what it is....

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They run Pro Stock Motorcycle? Who knew?

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Please explain to me why Eddie would do that?


Stan




https://www.nhra.com/standings/2021/...ro-bike-battle



<table class="table table--standings"><thead><tr><th class="table__right table_contain">Position</th><th class="table__left">Driver</th><th class="table__right table_contain">Points</th><th class="table__right">Points Behind Leader</th><th class="table__left">Vehicle</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">01</th><td class="table__left"> Matt Smith </td><td class="table__right table_contain">1020</td><td class="table__right">0</td><td class="table__left">Denso/Stockseth Racing Buell</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">02</th><td class="table__left"> Eddie Krawiec </td><td class="table__right table_contain">920</td><td class="table__right">-100</td><td class="table__left">Vance & Hines</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">03</th><td class="table__left"> Scotty Pollacheck </td><td class="table__right table_contain">885</td><td class="table__right">-135</td><td class="table__left">Denso/Strutmasters/MSR Buell</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">04</th><td class="table__left"> Angelle Sampey </td><td class="table__right table_contain">835</td><td class="table__right">-185</td><td class="table__left">Mission Foods Vance & Hines Suzuki</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">05</th><td class="table__left"> Angie Smith </td><td class="table__right table_contain">835</td><td class="table__right">-185</td><td class="table__left">Denso/Stockseth Racing Buell</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">06</th><td class="table__left"> Andrew Hines </td><td class="table__right table_contain">800</td><td class="table__right">-220</td><td class="table__left">Vance & Hines</td></tr></tbody></table>

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Just because it has been happening, does not mean that we do not care for that activity. I certainly understand the business side of it, but this is not good for the integrity of our sport, regardless of the category.

As someone mentioned, I think the ladder game is all fair....what is not fair is the amount of BS the elite team gave Greg for doing it in Pomona 2 years ago. Yet, to employ the same strategy themselves, they believe they are geniuses....it doesnt work that way.

Let's also remember that the KB racing team had a prime opportunity in 2017 when Greg Anderson raced Bo Butner in the semis to have "Team Orders" and Bo ended up the champ.

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I vote for putting Jason Line back in a car for Pomona and let him qualify at 177mph opposite an Elite car for 1st round.

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Could it be the team order was for Bo to win? Seems the talk at the time was they needed Bo for his EFI knowledge. Nobody could run with them the first two years of EFI so it was their team going to win it.

Everyone was high fiving each other when KB tried it and failed, said how great it was. So now it’s a bad thing?

Ya’all are free to start a multi car team and show us what you would do.

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You have posted the points for the pro bike battle.

I can explain why Eddie did that, Angelle was 25 points behind the points leader, he was 111 behind the leader. There is 86 reasons.

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It's disappointing but I think we all get it. How many chances do you have to win a championship when your teammate in the other lane is out of the running?

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In other Sports it’s called Points Shaving!

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I don't think anyone has an issue with the ladder. I consider Jason a good friend so i pay pretty good attention to the KB cars and have had a good working relationship with them prior to Jason driving the second car so i have watched as both he and Greg both run for championships. Pulling for the two of them and knowing where the points would fall pending their head to head match ups i can remember many runs where i thought that it would have been better if one car was "off a touch" when they lined up, but those cars always went down the track regardless of how it impacted the points. That is the difference between how they handled it versus what appeared to happen yesterday.

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At least the Elite guys didn't start fighting the KB team over it. That seems to be their M.O.

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Everyone not in the hunt with KB power needs to lay back the same way. This could be the slowest qualifying field ever

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Thank you. Yes I was looking at the wrong list. :mad:



Stan

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This also happens in the sportsman classes as well. Having a team car not show up, red light or shut off is the same as buying the round. Next season I should carry $20k to every event and buy rounds as needed to win a championship. No integrity in this sport, I have lost interest over the years for sure.

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Austin,
Personally I think it sucks. We go to a drag race to race and that's what people want to see 2 or 4 cars go down a drag strip side by side but, until someone put their foot down and says this needs to stop it will keep on going. It's just ashame it has come down to that, it's like Jerry Jones buying the Giants and telling them they need to lose both times they play the Cowboys so the Cowboys get a playoff spot...it just stinks.

Congrats on another good season also Austin, love the Dale Suit!

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The ladder games are fair and well thought out, GAME ON! Diving so your team wins is bs and im sure if you asked most PS teams they would think that as well.

I also thought it was pretty ballsy for a member of the Jegs family to basically say on tv we will do what it takes to win. Can you call Jegs and ask for the "dive racing package" and then for Erica to get all excited when the announcer asked her if there are orders and she said absolutely not. Really mmmm ok

I wonder if Elite paid for everyones weekend rental who took a dive because i dont know about you but renting a car for the weekend at $100k i am not diving for anyone unless you are paying my bills!

Lets hope Greg kicks some ***!!!!

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And your point is? Integrity leaves ANY sport when big money can buy it's way in.

I'm so glad that I'm just a poor, dumb "little guy".

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i would say the money would help the team if they won but those nhra purses couldnt help anyone.

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Speaking of points shaving. How would you like to be the guy betting on these races and have this stuff going on.

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I seem to remember that happening in Comp a few years ago. The driver went 200 something red.. And gave the win to his car owner/boss/sponsor.

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I guess that answers the question of why a .9 under comp car was put up for sale lol!

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The BIG QUESTION is haw is NHRA LICENSED as a SPORT or ENTERTAINMENT IF ITS A SPORT THEN ITS NOT OK, If it’s Entertainment then it’s part of the show!

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Interesting interview on the NHRA YouTube channel and Joe asked Erica about the run Troy took his dive. She indicated neither her or Richard Freeman knew that Troy was going to do that…blah blah blah.

Go Greg!

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I'm an Erica fan but....

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Pretty sure that IF they admit they did it, then the NHRA can sanction them for cheating.

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It's Greg's year! (I'm not an EE basher, would want her driving my car!)

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The kid stood on TV and said he would do anything possible for the team to win the championship then proceeded to take a dive the next round. How much more proof do you need. The Fact is NHRA doesn't give a S about anything but collecting their paychecks.

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Looks like Elite is setting up to try get Greg again, Greg should have shut off

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Hope Greg and Dallas go # 1 and 2 and then simply say “come and get you some”.

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It looks as if the trunks come in the small stocker sizes

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Sorry Larry, I’m not following you…could you elaborate please?

Bill