Supplemental Round money in Div. 5
 

Upon entering the gate and paying my entry to the Div. 5 race at Earlville over the weekend I was asked if I wanted to pay an extra $35 dollars to enhance the purse. It was not explained very well how this extra money was going to be distributed, and I told the nice lady no thanks. I questioned a few of my fellow Stock racers and didn’t find anyone who had pitched in the extra $35. When I went to the tower to collect the little round money I had won, I ran into a Div. 5 official and questioned him about the supplemental fund.He told me that some racers are willing to pay a little more to race for a little more ,and 19 racers in Stock had payed into the fund. The racer who advances the farthest in eliminations will get the extra money paid in, and in the few races they have done this no winner or runner up has cashed in. He also told me that his observation is that ”most racers are not here for the money anyway.”

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I'm pretty sure it is the two racers who advance the furthest, with a 65/30 split (apparently a 5% admin fee on the program).

I've been in two finals this year but I've never paid into it. Not that I like the current financials of divisional racing; I just don't like the way this was implemented.

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So if 2 racers that were the last remaining contributors went out in the same round they would split 95 percent of the money. I get it now. If division 3 starts this program I might get in. Maybe a little less pay in might attract more racers.

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Kicking in additional $ over and above a ridiculous entry/payout ratio would be a no-go for me. Would be more likely to participate in a T&T or bracket program that benefited the host track.

Like what Mike Cotten did in holding $ for racers and awarding the racer who goes the furthest in eliminations.

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I was one of the 19 that paid.
Here was my logic:
They said the entry was $165.In Division 3,it has been $180 this year.
So since I figured the entry was $180 and it was "only" $165,it was "only" $20 more to get into the bonus program.
I think their intentions are good with this,it just isn't explained very well.Obviously,if you win,you should get some extra money.And if you lose first round like I did,you really don't care after that.
A better post might be why isn't the entry fee the same for Divisional races regardless of Division?

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Absolutely, I got r-up in d-3 earlier this year it paid $500
Got r-up in d-1 a week ago, $1000.
Was that worth the $20 entry difference????

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Ask all the D4 racers that have paid an extra $35 this year, lost 3rd round, and got $0 instead of the $100 they would get in D5. Was that worth the extra $35?

*I admit I could be wrong on that, but when the revised payout was initially announced there was no third round money.

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More enhancements? I would be pissed!

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What was the payout for the National event? Congrats on a great semifinal finish at Reading!

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It’s pathetic when you lose in the semis and don’t even get your entry fee back.

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It's what they call a Calcutta, mostly used in bracket racing to give back to racers who want to run for more. It all depends on the track and how they run their bracket deal, some do it for the closest on the dial in Q2, some do it for the best R/T in a certain qualifier or they give it to the drivers who goes the farthest.

I started doing a $10 Calcutta at the Mid Atlantic .90 Races about 3 years ago, some people like it, some people choose to pass. I have given around $300 a race extra to winners and runner-ups all the way down to 3rd round losers because they were the 'Last Man Standing". It's just a little added bonus if you want to get in on it but, we don't force anyone's hand because we all know it's already expensive enough.

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For the keystone national I believe it’s $500. And it’s only payed to 1. What happens to the other $500 they would have to pay if there were 4 cars in the semis? And thanks for the kind words
They make it hard to find the payouts and you have to wait for the Mail to find out.

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Stephanie, you hit it right on the head. when you make it down to the last 4-6 cars in your class at a national event, and you don't even receive enough money to cover the entry cost to the event, there is something wrong! I complained to NHRA when I made it down to the last 6 cars in Super Street at the National event this year, and only received $250. This was at a National event! How much money is involved in a National event compared to a Divisional event? WAY more I'm sure. So why is the payout so low?
By the way, NHRA's response was to tell me that they have a Lucrative contingency program, if I was disappointed in the payout for Super Street class, maybe I should look into this program. Funny, Contingency money is only available for the winner and runner up. I specifically told them I made it down to the last 6 cars. Guess they just disregarded that fact that I pointed out.
By the way, Great job Keith Meyers in Super Gas this past weekend at Maple Grove, guess it doesn't matter which class you run in, you are a great racer.

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Could you please call me on this? I am confused on your explanation. D4 doesn't have any $35 extra stuff.
Thanks,
Trey Capps
D4 office 469-248-0014

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I apologize if I caused any confusion. There isn't an optional bonus program in D4, but the entry fee was raised to $200 which is $35 higher than a D5 entry.

I am aware that the win and runner-up money was increased along with this; I just disagree with also taking money off the bottom of the payout sheet to do it.

Being in MN, I don't get to D4 often so it doesn't affect me personally. I was just making an example of the different structures out there.

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Ok, Thanks.
Just wanted to make sure you knew what the entry increases were when the purse went up double on the $200 entry. Call if you have any questions or you can view it on the D4 web page.
There are also $500 bonuses on top of the $2000 base to the winner of SC, SG, STK, and SS.
With a $250 bonuses to the Runner Up of SC, SG, STK, and SS as well.

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I wish this was explained better as well. It would be nice if they posted more about it and really let everyone know. I think it is a great idea, just needs to be ran a little better!

I just saw that in D7 they were paid $2000 for a divisional win. And sounds like D4 is the same? How is this possible when a national only pays $1500?

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It's a good thing we don't do this for money.........right?

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We have been doing a Calcutta at our Great Lakes Stock/Super stock races this year also. Last weekend we walked the lanes on the last qualifying run and did a $25 buy in for anyone that wanted to join in. 36 entries bought in to race for more money and 22 didn’t want to which is fine. Our winner Saturday night Mike Warren in his V/SA 69 camaro cashed in on a extra $900 to go with his $2,000 for winning the race. This is our way of keeping the entry fee lower for the racers that just want to come out and have fun while those that don’t mind a little higher entry fee getting to race for some extra cash.

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I’m in if someone wants to do the Calcutta thing in St Louis.

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I was another of the 19 that paid the extra $35. I guess I am surprised there were only 19. Like Steffanie I have been to a national event and lost in the 5th round and didn't get back the entry fees for the car and 2 extra crew. I figured with 95% of the extra 35 bucks going to the 2 competitors that went the furthest it was money well spent.

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Does anyone know who did get extra money in Earlville?

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Rylee just received a check from Earlville. We don't know if she took the first spot or second spot or how many people were entered in the SS portion but it was nice to get a little extra $$!