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1. Parking on Monday
This decision is a good one to avoid the fiasco of last year, and is one any successful business would make to fix a problem.

2. Combining stock and SS class eliminations into one day

NHRA has products they sell to us, the racers. One of these is the class runoff experience at the U.S. Nationals.
Many of my favorite race track memories are the are two days of class runoffs. Racers cooling at the back of staging, friends and people you don’t even know helping push your car in staging.

This schedule is going to result in a mad rush to prep your car after Q1 and then, at least for me and many others, running back and forth from stock to SS. (A first world problem, for sure but it is the U.S. Nationals)

I understand NHRA has other priorities (jegs all stars for example) but I want them to understand they are weakening the stock, SS experience.

3. E 1 Thursday morning

One half of the field will be out before lunch Thursday at the. U.S. Nationals. Think about that. Not prepping for class, not tearing down, not watching the bump spot, they’re out.

I realize these are special times. I supported the Covid effected Indy last year and was grateful for the abbreviated class schedule.

If this is the “new normal” ( I hate that term) for INDY I’m afraid I will no longer be the Indy “junkie” I was.

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Exactly why I'm not going. They ruined it and pretty much all Nat'l events!!!

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Mike and Paula,

YOU NAILED IT. We agree with you 100%.

#keepindyindy

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Is this the the "new normal" I don't know, but think you need to wait until next year to found out.

This year they are still not racing on Monday. There is a race the following weekend here in PA.

Looking at what there was last year for racing and what it looked like at the beginning of this year with canceled races.

IMO I think they have no done to bad of a job.

Stan

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It sure will be strange looking at all the empty pit spots on Friday afternoon. It seems that NHRA s new business model is to get the SPORTSMAN outta here as soon as possible. Now I know how the band felt while the TITANIC was going down ….

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So what is the answer for all of us class race junkies. Do we all go to Columbus one year for class, no limit on entries, or will NHRA limit the entry to keep control. If they have Class at Vegas they will keep the entries down so we all can’t play. The Badger Clasic was a successful combo race add a scale and fuel check and it could be a great class race destination. Belle Rose class at an open then a points race later in the week. Gainesville class could be done as an open then the points race. At opens -1.20 under has no penalty.
To make it real class the rules have to be enforced, so tech is a must, but what will be the teeth that tech will use to enforce the rules. We saw how NHRA handled a cheater this year at Gainesville, yes I’m still disappointed in them and their limp wrist response

What and where the answer is I don’t know , but part of the answer is a well prepared track, scales, fuel check, and friendly fair tech.
Let’s all a think about and find a solution.

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I agree with Brother Cotton on all points.
Let me add a few additional complaints I have with it. Now you all know I’m never been an nhra basher and stick up for them regularly.
But this right here hurts. And yes, full disclosure, I have not been to Indy before, this will be my first time.

My biggest problems are that they have combined S and SS class racing into one day, and what’s probably worse, is that as mike said, 50% of the core nhra sportsman classes will
be done on Thursday, and what, 75%? will be done on Friday while then we have:
“Street Car Shootout”, “Nostalgia Pro Stock”, and “Scott Rods Exhibition” running in front of the fans Friday AND Saturday”.

They are trying to deal with a tight schedule, made tighter by one less day, yet they add classes that do not, and technically have no official place in an nhra national event, yet those classes get some “fans in the stand time” while 75% of us either pack up and head home or drink beer and watch.

Extremely disappointed.

Kp

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Seems parking is very important to the schedule now. 5 of the 8 day schedule has parking involved. 5 days have racing happening.

Not sure how big the audience is for 1930 and 1940 straight axle hotrods that are willing to pay U.S. National ticket prices. Half of them can't make a full pass. Same goes for 3 or 4 nostalgia pro stockers. Bring them to a divisional race maybe to get fans. We could remove the wheelie bars from a couple stock and superstock cars to make more wows I'm sure. I can shoe polish my bumper if it pays.

You look at the schedule for Friday. Nitro starts at 7:30 and secure the track 8:45. Big fields are expected I guess. Pits should be 3/4 empty by then.

To be honest I haven't been at Indy since 1982. I moved from division 1 to division 7 when my first wife passed from Cancer. So I don't have much say in the race. Too far for me these days to tow. Wish I could!. When I did go there were over 200 stockers there to fill a 96 car field. That was some great racing just to make the field.

Paul Haszlauer

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Add up all the views these exhibitions get and you might end up with half the views the Johnny Gray/John Shaul final got.

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Bobby brings up a good point. The views from that heads-up final might hopefully shine a little light on future decision making. NHRA has a tough job to try and please the audience and the racer alike (along with balancing a schedule). It can't be easy and hopefully with the input from the SRA, the sportsman schedules will be considered and constructed in a favorable manner.

#keepindyindy

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Glad I did my INDY thing a few years ago, the spectacle, pagentry, tech, it all was great

Gray Vs Shaul...wonderful....BUT lets not forget
INDY 2010
A/S. McCormick vs Calvert....THE BEST EVER

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im pretty sure they dont care that they now cancelled the ANNUAL thursday night we passed teardown trip to support our local young ladies at Dancers strip club ....

NHRA we can only stand SO MUCH :(

captain

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The "OLD INDY" is definitely gone. Now with the Monday eliminations being cut out of the schedule moving forward. Having our own day/days(Thursday & Friday + Teardown days) for stk/ss class is over. The best case scenario is that the All-Stars gets put back to Chicago or another National Event venue next year and beyond, and we have Class Runoffs for STK & SS on Thursdays. I doubt NHRA would be willing to start us on Tuesday in order to maintain the schedule we have had for the past 65+ years, nor would they concede on working longer days and/or getting rid of exhibition classes to free up the schedule. Its all about the Benjamins now!

Please reach out to Josh Petterson and Ned Walliser at NHRA to voice your concerns/displeasure...all other NHRA personnel cannot be of any assistance on this matter.

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They DONT CARE.
It’s apparent and Nhra does watch this site.
I was told by an official that
My comments on Class Racer aren’t appreciated your bashing the company I work for
So there you go. We are not the show. We just pay the bills

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Fortunate enough to be on the fence for that A/S run “The best ever” describes it perfectly and while you can loop it on YouTube all day long you’ll never get the full amazement that many of us enjoyed that day. That run plus Glidden getting in one of Cunningham’s Mustangs and almost qualifying on a run that any other driver would have aborted combined to make it the greatest Indy I’ve witnessed and that includes Big shaving his beard after winning or Dyno Don dry hopping his A/FX car behind the line, Wild Willy doing his one handed deal, and so many more I’ve seen since my first Indy. Point being; the traditional Indy format has provided so many memorable moments that demonstrated the PASSION that has always been on display there. Don’t think the current bean counters at NHRA share that passion. To them it’s simply another business that treats its customers and even employees (yes, I’m still pissed about Bloom and Redman and others) as mere tools to keep their bottom line covered and paychecks inflated. That’s not to say I wouldn’t run Indy this year (even though Rink or others will make short work of me in class) because there’s always hope that for a brief moment something might happen that recaptures the passion and thereby keep us hopelessly hooked on The Big Go.

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It is unfortunate that to most of the NHRA upper staff it's JUST A JOB, nothing more. Yes there are some that love the sport, but they are the minority.

NHRA - - We don't care, we don't have to.

R.I.P. Wally Parks and THANK YOU for starting a great organization that, unfortunately, is not what it used to be, but could be again - with some internal help and passion.

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I don't see the problem it's still INDY. I've never been. It's a BUCKET LIST race for me and maybe one day I can go

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I am glad that I had the opportunity to race at Indy before these changes! Unfortunately I see this as the new norm for National events. At Charlotte we spent a complete day waiting to be pitted and the next morning (Friday) we got two qualifiers and right into the first round of the eliminator. It is a damn shame that NHRA is ruining our hobby!

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It's a damn shame that it was allowed to stop being a "Sport" so that it could become a "hobby"!

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Since I happened to be in the stands that day, a little something to cheer everyone up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsis...=TroyHenderson

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I'm glad our Indy experience was in 2019. This year we'll be leaving BG, spending Monday at the Corvette museum and Tuesday running my Corvette on the road course. Then heading home with the $800 I spent at Indy on 1 tech card, gate fees and insurance home with me.