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Thanks Jeremy, ….WOW !!!! It’s going to be a different kind of INDY……One quick question , does anyone in the IVORY tower realize that INDY up until COVID last year ALWAYS concluded on LABOR DAY ?????

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At least this year it is a 5 day event; not 4 days like last year. Also, Class Eliminations are scheduled for Wednesday; not like last year when the 2 quickest ETs from Q1 raced for the Class Trophy in Q2. All of us would like to see Indy go back to a 6 day event; only time will tell.

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Amen Bill ……I find it odd that Superstock will run a couple rounds of eliminations and then followed by the HEMI shootout ….

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The way I read it is stock and ss get one time run and the two fastest cars run class in q2 like last year. If this is the case they have completely ruined Indy and what it means for stock and ss. Round one Thur morning for a 5 day race what a joke!

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Well it's official, nhra has ruined indy.

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I don’t know Jeff, ….it does say CLASS ELIMINATIONS ….hopefully not a repeat of last year ……

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Wow!! 2 qualifying runs and first round thursday for 390.00 DOLLARS WTF!!! I'm signed up at the moment ,but idk this is dumb!



Anyone want to buy a really nice 69 camaro pm me, I think its time to move on what a joke!!!


Hey Tyler when are you running another race !!!!!!!!

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It says one session class elimination. That’s what it was last year

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If that it is what it is, someone who is the decision maker, ruined what was Class at the US Indy Nationals.

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This is how mis-information gets spread. I have talked to multiple NHRA sources.

Indy will be 1 Qualifier and then traditional class eliminations on Wednesday for both Stock and Super Stock. Yes, both classes will run class eliminations on the same day. So that is different than Indy of years past, but certainly better than last years version. In addition, Indy now has the Allstars to stuff into the schedule so lots of things get shifted around, including the Allstars banquet. That will be Wednesday night as well and NHRA is fully aware of class eliminations may run into this banquet time.

In addition, if we want to jump to conclusions, it looks like tear down may be eliminated. It appears to not be any time for tear down, unless they want to do a pre-tear down on Tuesday.

However, no one seemed to notice the fact that they brought back the Monday Parking Day? OF ALL THE COMPLAINING ON THIS SITE THE LAST TWO INDY YEARS ABOUT PARKING, NO ONE WANTS TO MENTION THIS FACT.

You know what is ruining racing...forums and social media. Pick up a phone and call someone to get answers or offer suggestions. Those people at NHRA are not against the racer. I am as critical as anyone against the NHRA and there are certainly improvements to be made on a constant basis. I am on the SRAC for the Super Classes and in general I am in contact with NHRA reps every week discussing different ideas about all things racing related.

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This is how I read it and still think its a joke.

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I can confirm class eliminations will be run on Weds.

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More races with no tech? This is better? Big deal it’s a 5 day race. If things don’t go well for someone, you literally can show up on Wednesday and be going home on Thursday morning. WTF? Why does the Allstars race have to be run at Indy? Who’s idea in the NHRA was this no tech to save time deal? The experience of racing Indy has been watered down. Basically it’s a glorified points race now. Pretty disappointing. But at least the parking situation is better. :(

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Allstars used to be in Joliet at Rt 66 Raceway Didn't have Joliet last year

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It’s sponsored by Jegs, why not have it at Columbus?

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There is no National at Columbus anymore sadly

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But Todd they let you park on Monday. LOL So parking on Monday takes the place of the last race that actually had tear downs. And lets completely ignore the poll that overwhelmingly show's the racers that actually go to the race want it to be without AHFS. I'm sorry but for me they have Ruined Indy !!!!!!!!! Barry

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We race Indy to run fast. NHRA will not let us. So SAD.

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It’s been a good ride but the bean counters finally won

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Do the all star racers still get torn down? I think they did that in advance and I do believe some bogosity was found at times. Maybe they should consider some pre race teardown

Any names for the NHRA reps you talk with on these issues? I think the train wreck that is the executive level is the issue. The customer facing NHRA members love racing and racers. The execs love….their paychecks.

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What use to be the best car show in the 50 states isn't that important to the folks in charge and their fans anymore. Oh boy you get to park Monday. I'll be amazed if they get the quota of 300 of the best show quality stock and Superstock cars in the country to fill their fields. Maybe 200 Jr Dragster will make fans come back for more. Pay more for less is a great recipe. Half the sportsman racers will be done and gone by Thursday morning. How excited can you get for 12-13 top fuel racers.

The "Big Go" is going going and possible gone.

Paul Haszlauer

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We can all just hope Rt. 66 comes back on line next year and the Jeg's All Star race is run there again. It looks to me like some teardown could be done on Wed. as cars are eliminated in class.

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Nothing sad about it.

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Todd, you nailed it. I've been thinking about this since I saw the thread last night - and I haven't been able to summarize my thoughts any better than this.

I wouldn't give NHRA much credit for fixing the parking situation. Imagine this year turned out like 2019 (where no cars went down the track until ~2:30pm) - some racers would be going into round 1 eliminations on Thursday with potentially zero or only one rushed time trial. There might actually be a revolt.

The saddest part isn't just this schedule - it's the fact that once NHRA pulls off this year's iteration of the "U.S. Nationals" - it will become the normal procedure at Indy.

Just like no/limited tech inspection became normal.
Just like no/limited teardowns became normal.
Just like no class eliminations at national events became normal.
Just like starting the event on Thursday and running round 1 the same day became normal.
Just like quotas became normal.
Just like needing 8+ grade points to run a national event became normal.

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Not that my 2 cents means a thing but , I'm out, have fun, nothing will ever get fixed if you guys keep going . No thanks !!!! The BIG NO !!!


What a joke!!!! I remember when I couldn't wait to go to a National event pffff .

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This schedule is a direct result of the All-Stars being held at Indy. Hopefully it goes back to Chicago or even SN in Columbus next year! However with that being said, we could have easily given all sportsman classes 2 hits on Wednesday, including Comp, TD and TS, if NHRA ran it like they did years ago and ran us until way past the sunset! Then we could have done STK/SS Class Runoffs Thursday. Now we will have a few hours at best to prepare for Class Runoffs instead of an entire day! I guarantee with the schedule proposed we will be done before 6pm on Wednesday...other than a few 4 and 5 round class runoffs. If NHRA wants us to sacrifice our experience at the Big Go, then perhaps they should concede on the AHFS as a remedial consolation prize!!! God knows that the polls show that we do not want it in affect...or do the polls only count when its in a certain groups favor?!?!

Please reach out to your SRAC Reps and VP of Competition - Ned Walliser to voice your displeasure. All other NHRA personnel will not be able to assist with either of these issues(Run Schedule and/or AHFS)

The only silver lining is that the Hemi guys will most likely run E1 on Thursday to get more data for their Hemi Shootout Friday; therefore hopefully eliminating the over abundance of alternates and competition singles that has taken place in the last half decade!!!

PS: Parking use to always start on Monday's until they got rid of Tuesday Tech(one of my favorite parts of Indy, BS'n with fellow competitors from around the continent in the lanes all day)

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Super Stock 150 64 42.7%
Stock Eliminator 150 58 38.7%

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It looks like they took 2 qualifying sessions away from all sportsman racers. It looks like the handwriting has been plastered on the wall. Very disappointed, to say the least, at these turn of events. How much more can the sportsman racer take before they throw in the towel.

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Totally agree Rod, Paul Haszlauer said it best…….PAY MORE FOR LESS …….My next question is , Why is the Indy entry more expensive than the other National events ? It’s lost its LUSTER ….

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Nhra sources.......who

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Yes MJ. I always wondered why we have to pay more at Indy. Why does Super Stock get round money starting with 2nd round losers, and Stock the category that usually has the most entries at every race ( 142 cars at the Sportnationals ) has to wait till the 3rd round. Just doesn't make sense to me.

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I am not much of a source but, I was asked by Austin if we were running real class at Indy, I told him yes.

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I don't know who specifically Austin asked...but Sara Walker did comment on this thread a few posts after Austin. Sara herself is a pretty good NHRA source who would know about this sort of stuff. So even if you question Austin's sources...now 2 NHRA sources have come on here and confirmed what he's saying.

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This just posted on NHRA Racer

The Dodge//SRT NHRA U.S. Nationals has been expanded by an additional day from the 2020 event. The event will be contested a total of five days, Wednesday, September 1st – Sunday, September 5th. Stock and Super Stock Class eliminations are scheduled to be contested on Wednesday, September 1st to completion following their first qualifying session. With the Jeg’s Allstars being contested on Friday, SS, STK, SC, and SG eliminations will begin on Thursday, September 2nd. The event is scheduled to be completed on Sunday to prepare for the Mopar Express Lane NHRA Nationals presented by Pennzoil at Maple Grove Raceway the following weekend.

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So if you lose 1st round of class you only get one time trial?

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Two time trials the second one is first round of class.

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All runs at Indy are qualifying runs or elimination runs for Stk and SS. First round of class is a Q data run,

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Jeff, it says one session/Class Eliminations. The way I interpret the / is after Q1, regular Class Eliminations will be run. Let's hope that I am right.

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How much is a entry to Indy ?