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I hope this works.

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Works fine Kyle, thanks

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Thanks

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thanks for putting this up Kyle.

Ernie Neal
SS 354

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I am glad the poll worked. One in a row for me. You can click on any of the four poll result numbers and it will populate who voted for which choice. It is nice to see the diverse opinions from each person for each category.

I know many of the people in each category and find it interesting their preferences or position.

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Thanks Kyle and hope this changes NHRA decision Matt A

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Kyle, thank you for posting the poll. I hope it gives NHRA insight on how the general population of Stock and Super Stock competitors feel about this issue. I appreciate the competitors that voted, even though their views might not be amongst the majority or seen as being popular. I believe it is crucial to get as many racers to give their input regardless of which side they support in order to have an accurate measurement to show NHRA on the issue. Unfortunately, I believe that the reimplementation of AHFS at Indy had some personal agendas in mind and not for the greater good of the classes. I do not believe this was something NHRA was at the forefront of. Perhaps I am wrong; however in the days to come, should those involved refrain from voting, even though they are members of CR and have been vocal on here in the past, it will only confirm my beliefs.

To all members, please vote!

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The same people voting for no AHFS at Indy probably would support lowering the indexes a full second. Be careful what you vote for.

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This poll means nothing unless you can sign your name to your vote. Then you could Actually see if Real racers were for this or just the keyboard Racers

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It is a public poll. Click on any of the four numbers to the right and you can see where everyone voted.

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FYI Charlie
I didn't vote
Even though I just joined up again
No longer the "Former 4780 SS"
"Current 4780 SS"
If all goes well I will be at the div 4 race in Tulsa.
BTY: Kyle... Nice job on setting up the poll.
Good data points...

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Looks like 4 times as many want the AHFS suspended at Indy. Let’s hope NHRA is listening. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

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So looking at who doesn’t AHFS in effect are the folks that are stupid fast.
Definitely hard working money spending racers
Most of you could use a little HP. My opinion
So why bitch about it being in effect?
Chances are your gonna win CLASS
And this is why AHFS is needed
Indy is the only race to possible to get HP hits to even out the playing field.
I hope the AHFS stays in effect
No more mulligans. This ain’t golf.

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Who's bitching? Not all of us are fast. Indy isn't the only place to get HP. I seem to remember Gainesville and Belle Rose come to mind that get hits fairly regularly.

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James, I haven’t won class at Indy in forever. Probably never will. I just think that there should be one place left where we can all unload our stuff and let it rip. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

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Last time I raced at Indy with AHFS I was awarded 29 HP in a 22 lbs. class that was adding 638 lbs to stay in the same class. Needless to say lead futures skyrocketed, but that's what I wanted to do.

It's still a good combo at 184 hp

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Was that the Cowboy Cadillac pickup? Still deadly

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I still am certain the mineshaft will be in effect because the bump is usually about -.85

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James give your car to the Masshole. He seems to go real fast in the same combo. BP

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The mineshaft rule doesn’t help when a racer goes 1.20 under ......

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I'm only .3 under and I voted no. I want to see who's has what it takes. I'm not a fan about racing to 1000 ft to save a combo throughout the rest of the year. If I am able to receive a reduction then yes I will take it. That's the rules we are given. I'm slow because I do not have the time to test, build another from my mistakes on the first one. Turn them loose at Indy.

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The Sportsnationals runs class in similar air as Indy. Cars from all regions show up to run that event. Did you notice all these horse power hits your hoping to find? No, because people, at least most people, are not willing to kill their combo's on purpose. In the final of my class at the Sports, I ask my opponent what was the game plan. His exact quote was "I'm not going to kill my combo, I'll tell ya that" . I said ok, "I'll set up for a second under". There are deals being made to lift at the 1000, I've even been involved on both participants running max weight, with the same restrictor plates and meeting at the scales to monitor each other before heading up to the staging area. Instead of having the pop...sizzle.. and excitement of watching that scoreboard light up and think "what the keck, how's he run that fast !!" You want to turn it into just another event, a boring one....Let Indy be something BIG, have a reason to call it the BIG GO.

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It was the Cowboy Cadillac in V/S. We worked so hard on everything that would make it run fast.

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Get rid of the AHFS altogether and find another "System" with some teeth.

What about Teardowns? I don't think its in the cards of NHRA and not worth the extra money it would take to hire and train new Tech people.

If you can Legally run 1.00 under @ Indy I'm impressed, but you need to be looked at thoroughly by somebody that knows.

If you can protect your index at all the other races, why not at Indy? If you can't you need HP. Simple.

Why do some Combo's get 20-35 HP reductions?
Why do the New Combo's get such bogus ratings?

I've been on both sides of the fence and its like stealing from your competitor.
If the AHFS works leave the early Factory HP ratings alone and let the AHFS work it out, or use realistic HP ratings to begin with.

If you are going to use the AHFS, quit handicapping it? It works(?) at a snails pace and it should benefit everybody.

I agree its a good "Show" seeing people run 1.20-1.50 under and better at Indy with a 29.20BP and 2500ft DA, but it should count for the AHFS.

RJ

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What really needs to be done is lower the indexes.How many enhancents have been allowed since the last index reduction.

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Not all "enhancements" affect different combos in the same way! Either take away all of the "enhancements" that have been handed out like candy for the last 10 years, come up with a way to make the existing AHFS actually work (compare 1/8 mile times and 1/4 mile times, correlate 1/4 et to MPH) or just come up with a new AHFS.

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Agreed, not every combo was "gifted" aftermarket Edelbrock aluminum heads, or aftermaket replacement carbs and intake manifolds either. And a small carbed, small cam and cylinder head combo may not benefit as much from solid lifters or stiff valve springs as much as some other combos.

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What good is it to have a car capable of running 1.5 under the index if you don't use it? The AHFS is flawed only because the indexes and horsepower ratings are out of wack. How cool were the early independent races that allowed you to showcase your cars? In my opinion it was awesome.
Mr. Downing, I voted because I'm a former racer who spent lots of money and time on my race cars, a long time member and if you don't like it, get a life.

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The best part of the Edelbrock head is 40# off the nose. That is real important when you have 300+# in the driver’s seat. The worst part is getting the runners to size, they are way to big. In no way are they a magic Bullet. With the weight off the nose the car works better.

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Anyone who has a combo capable of running 1.5 under the "index" in their class doesn't have an "index" problem. It's in the wrong class and running off of the wrong "index"! They have a horsepower problem!
Is all of this WOKE crap starting to influence S/SS Racing now? Ya take advantage of all of the "candy" handed out by the Tech Dept. and work the AHFS for all of the givebacks that you're entitled to and now that your combo can go 1.5 under and hurt itself ya want to change the indexes and screw the other 50 combos in the class!

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Voting seems to be locked up I know a few that have voted this morning and it’s not showing their vote. Can you check into this Ken . Boy this sure sounds familiar 😂😂

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lol :D

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Frank Castro’s you should spend some of that time and money you claim to have and show up at the race track with the rest of us.
I find it funny all the I Used to race a long time ago guys and guys that don’t race. want to voice there options on a class they don’t Compete in.

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My name is Castros not Castro and there a plenty of members of this forum who know my record as a racer and why I don't currently compete is none of your business.

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Well Frank if your going to throw stones you should be able to take them when someone throws them back. I guess if you don’t like it you should take your own advice (if you don’t like it get a life) or get off the keyboard. What are you a long time member of? NHRA lol anyone can pay $129 for 12 national dragsters a year.

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Charley you have a PM.

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Now the popcorn will get cold.

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If Indy is the only race that has no AHFS. Maybe there should be no combo classes and all class winners get a trophy and get in the show like the old days. I personally enjoyed the creativity some racers showed up with.

Paul Haszlauer

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Right on Billy! And Jeff
You both got it right
Protect your precious under factored combo
Or pull your pants down and. ,,,,,,Wave that swizzle stick !
Cause your a bad dude! And wanna win Indy Class
I was fortunate to win Indy Class 1 time in a fast borrowed car
That we slowed down because we couldn’t tune it for Indy like we did at Cecil the week before
And I had no business winning class 4th slowest car out of 8 car or so
But the good lord thru a light at Mr LARRY Hill - 002
He had me covered BIG but Larry said ….that’s drag racing
Nothing Is guaranteed. Congrats

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Thank you for the poll but Only 218 folks voted opinion on the AHFS.

My goal is/was to go to Indy at least one time but now it pretty much looks like if this gets looked at by NHRA or even considered why would I go? The 69 Camaro 427 is not a cream puff combo and yes it can be pretty fast too. It looks to me like you are taking away the d r a w that any car can win at any time and they have in the past. Some of my good friends have done so and to me that's a huge part of the DRAW! Its not just the fastest car. It is the best driver/ eng and chassis tuner. And No if you ask, I have not raced my car in a while but I have been very busy finishing a totally new engine and car/trailer upgrades plus just LIFE.

JMHO....