Electronic Time Slips
 

So you will be getting a time slip from your phone in the future at some tracks. Most racers check their time slips very quickly to analyze the run. So after a run I just proceed to my pit area and get out my phone. What if I carried it with me so I can check the results at the scales or while waiting at the scales after a loss.
I saw on Drag Racer TV the incremental times being displayed while the cars were going down the track, how cool.
I understand that you need to get an app from the track to get the results of your runs.
Did you know that my phone has the capability of getting near another phone to transmit data.
I saw the other day something about TikTok, my next door neighbor has it as they are circus performers and broadcasts to over 3,000 live. Wow, technology. Seems like you can get an app for all kinds of purposes.
I think I'm going to mount a little bracket on my dash so I can put my phone there for easy access to get my time slips.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA. real time

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Just posted on another thread. No timing equipment needed. Just compare your DRAGY unit with their DRAGY unit and determine winner.

Dragy uses high speed GPS satellites to accurately measure your vehicles performance within 1/100th of a second, producing identical results to the much more expensive and cumbersome VBOX system, in a less expensive and easier to use package. The Dragy software automatically charts slope on all timeslips which you can then post to forums or social media, share with friends, or even upload to the Dragy leader board. The Dragy box is extremely compact at 1" x 3" (25.4mm x 76.2mm) and can be set on the dash when testing and stored in the glove box or center console when not in use.

In addition there are many advanced features under development including superimposing performance data over your mobile camera, virtual races with friends, an internal feed for photos and performance discussion, and more to come. Runs are saved in both metric and SAE formats, allowing comparisons of 100-200kmh and all metric equivalents. You can also define your own performance windows for measuring both trap speeds and/or elapsed times, time to brake performance such as 100-0, and much more.

The system can be run simultaneously with JB4 Mobile and other bluetooth apps. Requires the Dragy app which is available free of charge for both iOS and Android.

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Lap Time (available soon)
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Highscore list sorted by manufacturer
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[QUOTE=Jeff Stout;616471]Just posted on another thread. No timing equipment needed. Just compare your DRAGY unit with their DRAGY unit and determine winner.

Dragy uses high speed GPS satellites to accurately measure your vehicles performance within 1/100th of a second, producing identical results to the much more expensive and cumbersome VBOX system, in a less expensive and easier to use package. The Dragy software automatically charts slope on all timeslips which you can then post to forums or social media, share with friends, or even upload to the Dragy leader board. The Dragy box is extremely compact at 1" x 3" (25.4mm x 76.2mm) and can be set on the dash when testing and stored in the glove box or center console when not in use.

Just getting the time down to .01 (1/100) is not close enough to determine a winner in a race.
I have won and lost races down to the .0001 before and most time slips does not go that far into the .0001 numbers unless those are needed to determine the race.
Just My Take
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

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[QUOTE=Jeff Stout;616471]Just posted on another thread. No timing equipment needed. Just compare your DRAGY unit with their DRAGY unit and determine winner.

With no reaction time? I can see the fights in the pits now. lol

The Tulsa dragway app was easy and showed everything but names only car number. Since it is an app I would think that there would be no range so people could follow the race 1000 miles away.

Greg

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At my race tracks back in the 70's... before the booth on the return road.. we just dropped a hand written time card (business card size with timing sponsor on it) down a PVC tube into a basket at the base of the tower.
Might have to go back to the future...at some time. BTW Gary years ago there were no reaction times and we didn't have fights. I've always though things would be better without reaction times.. You would have to really work to set up your delay box...

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Absolutely not!!! Real time info inside the car? I will win a lot more races!!!
Does anyone remember the i-card? Yep, it gave real time info till NHRA figured it out
A few of us had figured it out, had the gameboy velcro on my dash with tape over all but both reaction times and 1/8 mile times- you figure it out.......

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[QUOTE=63corvette;616474]I believe it shows 4 digits over. I'm just staing it is .02 difference from track time slip. We feel because of no rollout on dragy. You move it starts timing. That would be equal 2 both cars being .02 off actual.

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No. The difference between draggy and your time slip will vary even in the same car between shallow and deep staging. Since it sounds like draggy starts the timing and measured distance from first movement.

Stan

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Some of us remember all that. :-)

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They did not have very much information. :eek:


Stan

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I also still have a number of these from Amarillo Dragway, Amarillo TX from the late 1960's. They look a lot like the one you posted except for the sponsor of the race info.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

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[QUOTE=Jeff Stout;616488]The 4 digits is only on the who crossed first and 3 digits on your and their ET.
What you posted looked to me to be for your ET only to the 2nd digit and not down to the 3rd digit.
Without the reaction time included in it how would you ever decide who won?
When I started racing in the 60's the tech person at the finish line picked the winner and hand wrote the ET cards declaring the winner and pulled the ET and MPH from a readout to put on the card. I believe the system used then was called a Crondex or something like that. I remember it doing a lot of clicking when I was near it.
I still have the winning cards for all my class win trophy's long before they were Wally's.
I really am getting old.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

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Mike Smith had a theory that reaction times made drivers who were slower on the tree quicker. The r/t's showed the improvement needed.

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[QUOTE=63corvette;616504]Your correct. I looked at my dragy log and only 2 digits to the right of decimal. I guess the point i was making is the future is around the corner for no time slip booth. Or clocks needed. Never needed to know reaction time to determine winner. Who crosses first and dont break out or least amount to break out of the 2 would decide

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Ron for those of us with app-less flip phones each reaction time will be displayed on the scoreboard on the journey to the finish line. Fair is fair.

Anybody want to buy a Gameboy....cheep?

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And you don't think someone will figure out how to cheat during the actual run, in live time, while racing down the track? Does this not concern anyone? Absolutely NOT a fan of anything like this!

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Yep, my point exactly

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This is what one of the Tulsa "time slips" looked like. I feel it works well.

There is a provision to filter by car number so it is easy to find your time slip.

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The same thing is used at Orlando Speed World. Jim


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Hey Jeff or Stan, how about a sensor that you could plumb into say your fuel line and get a wireless signal to your cell phone and not have to download a computer from your car or have any wires hooked up to drain your battery, is that possible or is it already being done? Fred

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Since you can filter by car number can you look up anybody else's run data?

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Hi,
I am sorry. but I am not sure what you are trying to do.There are a number of ways things can communicate wireless, a common one today is blue tooth.


Stan

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Yes

Greg

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1 NHRA rulebook specifically says anything that gives driver on track timing or track position during a run is illegal. So protestable if you loose a round and see your competitior has any device.
2 you cannot have a camera watching your competitors car going down track.
3 most video and timing has a delay that cannot help you on the track.

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And remember the days before no reaction times. Practice, leave earlier until you red light and back off a little. Hated when I hit the dial, 2 digits, and lost remember dial 14.00 and get a 14.00 time slip and loose

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I just had a few minutes and went and check some time slips some one had sent me last year. It looks like SGMP was using this app or one very similar last year before any of this touching stuff started.


Stan

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Stan, what I was thinking of is how could you run a sensor for your fuel or oil pressure and read it on your cell phone instead of getting to your trailer and downloading the information from your car, I guess what im trying to say is how can we eliminate a computer in the car, Fred

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There will be a lot of crashes with this new age crap.it's like texting and driveing!!!!!!!!!!! NHRA better put a stop to this now. the cheaters are going to make good use of this.

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Fred,
I have been out of racing for awhile so I have not tryied any of these. Do a google search for "obd2 data logger android". Back when I did obd2 data logging I had a laptop computer in the car hooked to the obd2 port by cable.

Stan

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Stan, I will figure this out later, but very interested in why you stopped running Pro Stock, I always watched those cars and your car ran pretty good at the time, did you do all your own motor stuff?

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Wow. I went to Island Dragway. Last night.
I got 6 paper time slips.
WTF is so hard about getting a papaer slip at divisional. And nationals
Mother fuchin ridiculous

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Fred,
I am not sure who you think I am, but I have never run Pro Stock.


Stan

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Maybe the toilet paper shortage over now, :D


Stan

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My problem with a system that displays your incrementals, it's like letting somebody look up your dress.

So much for having a plan....

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If you at at an event that has NHRA Live Timing the same information is available there.

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[QUOTE=James Perrone;616656
WTF is so hard about getting a papaer slip at divisional.[/QUOTE]

In my opinion tracks are adopting this to reduce one more point of human to human contact.

I think it will continue after this pandemic because it eliminates one employee and a piece of what can be troublesome equipment.

That being said if a track does not have good cell service from all carriers or does not provide WiFi in the pits (who does that?), it will not work.

One think I forgot to mention about the Tulsa system, and probably Orlando's is that you can text or mail a time slip to yourself or anyone.

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I heard that we will be getting paper slips at Epping. Home that's true

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Stan, sorry got you mixed up with another person, Fred

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I remember handwritten time cards. And I remember being hard on the brakes, taking the stripe, and losing to the track operators buddy because I ran 2 tenths quicker than I ever had before and broke out.

So much for nostalgia.

ETA...I watched portions of 2 events this weekend. There were many races that went out to the third digit to determine who won. Many. And a lot that had to go to the fourth. I don't think the on track sensors can be replaced by GPS except for maybe street car guys goofing off somewhere.

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Eliminating person to person contact, my butt....

It's about eliminating person to paycheck contact....