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NHRA1926 05-20-2020 12:05 PM

Quickest trans brake
 
Looking for the quickest releasing trans brake for turbo 400. What are some suggestions?

Jeff Stout 05-20-2020 02:50 PM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
Had a ATI in Monte w/t400 and switched to a Griner picked up .030 had to make button longer

63corvette 05-20-2020 03:45 PM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
I build quite a few powerglides for racers and this is the same question everyone asks.
In my opinion there is not much difference in the transbrakes from various sellers.
The things that make one quicker than the others is the setup to the case/solenoid and the clearances various builders use.
My opinion is just buy a brand name pro tree brake and let the builder know if you need it to react quicker.
Same thing for the button.
Chassis setup is the biggest thing to have the car react quicker.
Just my opinion.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

Keith 944 05-20-2020 06:23 PM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
for a powerglide i would say, hipster, or ati pro brake, not sure about a th400
sorry didn't see the th400 part...

Lyn Smith 05-20-2020 08:11 PM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 615024)
Had a ATI in Monte w/t400 and switched to a Griner picked up .030 had to make button longer

Can you even buy a Steve Griner brake anymore? He passed away a couple years ago.

Todd Geisler 05-20-2020 10:58 PM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
The Griner brake is no longer made after Steve's passing. Next closest is a copy of his being made and sold my Xtreme Automatics in Ohio. They were one if Steve's largest dealers for many years and began producing them after he passed.

I have one in my Coan 400xlt light weight/low drag th400.

Tom Goldman 05-20-2020 11:10 PM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
The Griner was without doubt the quickest and most consistent TH 400 brake on the market .
Sold many of them . hopefully Xtreme will carry on the production.

Regan Wilson 05-21-2020 06:19 AM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
Isn't the Hipster Brake a Griner design?

Todd Geisler 05-21-2020 07:28 AM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 615051)
The Griner was without doubt the quickest and most consistent TH 400 brake on the market .
Sold many of them . hopefully Xtreme will carry on the production.

Xtreme posted on FB a month or two ago that they are in the process of reproducing the Griner powerglide brake.

Todd Geisler 05-21-2020 07:31 AM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Regan Wilson (Post 615054)
Isn't the Hipster Brake a Griner design?

Not that I've seen, The Hipster valve bodies I've seen were still external solenoid where as the Griner has a unique internal solenoid design.

MacNicol Racing 05-21-2020 07:51 AM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
Last year I switched from a standard TCI brake to a ATI "Wicked Quick" brake in my TH400. It was worth about .030-.040 in RT and much more consistent.

Regan Wilson 05-21-2020 08:09 AM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
When the Billet internal solenoid Valve Bodies started coming out I asked multiple manufacturers if they would be quicker than my old Hipster. Nobody would tell me they would be.

Regan Wilson 05-21-2020 08:13 AM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
.030 to .040 would make a big difference for me if I needed to hit a .370 Tree.

Regan Wilson 05-21-2020 08:59 AM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
That got me thinking if I could cut a .370 light. I could do something stupid like enter Super Comp at the Fall Nationals.:confused:

NHRA1926 05-21-2020 10:06 AM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like the ATI wicked quick is the fastest reacting one. A little pricey, but as the old saying goes, "You get what you pay for."

Tom Goldman 05-21-2020 10:25 AM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MacNicol Racing (Post 615061)
Last year I switched from a standard TCI brake to a ATI "Wicked Quick" brake in my TH400. It was worth about .030-.040 in RT and much more consistent.

The ATI is very similar to the Griner .
ATI had been selling the Griner brake prior to the Wicked Quick version .
Any stock valve body based brake using the modulator valve will be much slower than the billet , internal brakes due to the small , circuitous passages and small valve diameters that come with using the OEM components.

drgrcr1156 05-21-2020 12:26 PM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
I have been using a Grinier TH400 brake for many years. Last year I purchased a new style quicker releasing brake from EXtreme Automatics. They have continued the Griner line for TH400.

Regan Wilson 05-21-2020 10:08 PM

Re: Quickest trans brake
 
Good Info Guys. I have really been thinking about talking to Mr Kilgore about his new program. I'm just a little skiddish about the price.


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