Which Combo's are most likely to get HP added or subtracted?
 

We're a week away from the Santa or Grinch HP gift or curse.
Which combo's are most likely to change?

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We are 2 days away ......heard the smog 350’s in novas only were getting 4 hp ....LOL....

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The number 1 qualifying car at Indy... in super stock is getting a few less horsepower I think...

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I asked for a reduction on my combo. We shall see. I have only been successful on one other occasion. Doesn't hurt to ask.

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They gave us back 4 HP last year but nobody jumped in new

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70 challenger hemi automatics are getting hp off in stock.

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The numbers are all there. Happy digging for those that can’t wait!

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They’re out and looks like lots of folks wrote letters to Santa this year....

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...700&zoneid=132

But the grinch is still lurking in Whoville...

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...699&zoneid=132

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2 years in a row the 70-71 Hemi Challenger gets some love. 20hp reduction in 2 years. Wowza!

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3370# in B/SA that will work, until the new cars are in the other lane, and then it will be same old outcome.

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Glass half full Larry, at least the Hemi could make them work for it and get some instant hits in the process.

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Sorry, I'll just make a different post. Merry Christmas

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70 nova Alum Head=415 yuch!!

maybe next year...…….

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I requested HP off 307/138 for Wagon only and I was lumped in with Cutlass and no HP change. Write another letter or work harder?

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Is wagon the same platform as the Cutlass, is so there is your answer.

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The wagon is a Delta 88 Cutlass is G body. Not sure if they are same platform

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Delta 88 is a full-size car (B-body). Cutlass is an intermediate (G-body).

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How many different 427 ford combos are there for 66 67 Fairlane one got reduced to 404 one got no change at 400 ? Is 404 glass hood trunk battery and 400 flat hood front battery? Then there is a factory 415 nhra 425 combo what is that ?
I surmise its 427 single carb flat hood 400
427 single carb glass hood 404
427 duel 4 auto 415 and NHRA transposed the numbers?
And 427 duel 4 Manuel trans 425?

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Thanks Billy.In my head I thought A body but wasn't sure

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Larry, if your post is relating to the January 1st horsepower reduction for the 70-71 Hemi Challenger, I believe the weight would be 3604lbs for B/SA without driver.

I agree with your statement about the new cars though.

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Merry Christmas from the AHFS..
Kind of like another A or B car in the other lane 300/200 lbs heavier.

Back to work..

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BTW.
Question
Ken, can we get a (dislike) button for those who don’t want to comment but have an opinion ?

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Stock Horsepower Changes
Engine OEM NHRA New
Make CID HP HP HP Years Affected

AMC 258 114 150 148 1977 Pacer

Buick 231 105 127 125 1978 Skyhawk

Chev 327 250 245 241 1968 Chevelle

Chev 350 175 287 283 1978 Malibu

Chev 350 175-185 275 271 1978 Camaro AT

Chev 350 270 278 274 1971 Camaro

Chev 396 350 335 330 1968 Camaro AT
Chev 409 409 370 365 1962 Biscayne

Chev 427 425 435 429 1969 Chevelle

Chev 454 425 414 408 1971 Chevelle MT

Mopar 225 110 144 142 1980 Diplomat

Mopar 340 290 312 308 1970 Cuda

Mopar 340 240 281 277 72-73 Roadrunner

Mopar 360 245 305 301 1974 Dart

Mopar 426 400 434 428 64-65 440

Mopar 426 400 445 439 1964 Savoy

Mopar 426 425 425 419 1963 Savoy

Mopar 425 425 434 424 70-71 Challenger

Mopar 426 425 456 450 1964 Belvedere

Mopar 440 385 402 396 1971 Charger

Mopar 440 390 382 377 1970 Cuda

Ford 140 92 109 107 1976 Pinto

Ford 140 145 168 165 1983 Mustang

Ford 281 225 207 204 96-98 Mustang

Ford 302 225 220 217 1992 Mustang

Ford 302 230 223 220 1968 Mustang

Ford 427 410 410 404 66-67 Fairlane MT

Ford 427 410 410 404 66-67 Fairlane AT

Ford 429 370 345 340 1971 Cougar

Olds 400 350 340 335 1967 442

Olds 455 390 351 346 1968 Hurst

Pont 400 330 338 333 1968 Firebird

Pont 455 290 340 335 73-74 Firebird

Pont 455 335 335 330 1971 Tempest

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Where are the latest Slow Averages and Fast Averages spread sheets that we see every so often? I looked back in the NHRAracer updates and couldn't find any. I know there were some in there.

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Bob, here’s the one through the Dallas National and Rockingham D2 race....

http://www.nhra.net/2019/images//Averages%20DT-2019.pdf

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I could be blind but I didn’t see the 2015 Camaro 376 combo listed.

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It’s there, only one run over 1 under so no review with avg not meeting the threshold anyway.

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7 combo’s get adjustments by AHFS, meanwhile there’s pages and pages of HP Requests from Competitors. None of this is illegal, of course, and if the rules allow it, we, as competitors, should take advantage.

That said...something tells me NHRA’s going to put a stop to this. Feels like, by the number of requests/adjustments, that the use of the process is much less...subtle...than it has been in prior years.

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Jared, keep in mind this is the first year of only one review period.

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"Take advantage" are the key words as a list this long seems to mean that racers are taking advantage of the system and even worse, of each other. Writing letters instead of working hard, just plain terrible.

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Same rules as last year I think, I could be wrong.

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Rather than begging horsepower reductions, I know one B/SA car that is busy making more power. I'm sure you'll see it next year.

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Jarod,
Merry Christmas to you, mom and Family.

NHRA should. I am sure there are warranted requests for reductions however it’s one thing needing that reduction and another to take advantage of the system. Not faulting the racers. Faulting the loopholes exploited.

Yes Larry, it was wrong last year and the year before and....

NHRA ARE YOU LISTENING ¿

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If your combo is hurt I see no shame in taking advantage of the game..but a solid combo and wacking it season after season is just being lazy

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It’s the usual SUSPECTS year after year. It is a shame because there are combos out there that really need ASSISTANCE ....Wonder who will be the first one that walks around the pits with their CHEST stuck out after they record a one second under run ?? ......

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This is why I care less and less about my class for each year going,I KNOW of guys that decided to loose headsup races not to mess up their request for taking HP off next year,this is just to silly for me anymore,good ting it's gonna make my exit a lot easier than I first though!

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The numbers from Indy could become very useful when dealing with sandbaggers asking for horsepower reductions. Let's say if a competitor has already run more than 1.00 under with the same car and combination within the past 3 years at Indy, that he/she is not elidgeble for a reduction. Also, if a racer asks for and receives a reduction and then lays down a pass of 1.00 or more under at Indy the following season - then that combination should get all the horsepower back.

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I posted this elsewhere but here’s a idea that think would help on 2 big issues

Accept 80 entries to all National Events,
All stock and SS fields 64 car qualified fields
Only extra time would be 1st day, eliminations still 6 rounds.
This will ensure some of the 1000 foot **** would stop.
Doesn’t effect really the alloted 6 Rounds they have us scheduled for.
Let’s more racers enter and NHRA collects more $.
(Lord knows we’re gonna enter we already have that proof)

AHFS might have a little more gumption as I would say at a Pomona or some other good tracks might take .90 plus to get in.

My 2 cents for what it’s worth

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1978 Chev 350, Malibu at 283, Camaro at 271. Same engine?

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80 Malibu 305 at 230, 80 Camaro 305 at 244....