Stock hood configuration clarification
 

Stock eliminator.........I'm sure the hood has to match the year model but what if a certain year model have a hood for the SB version and a cowl type version for the BB such as some corvettes.......can the BB hood be used on a SB class car ??? for instance SB stock hood vs. L88 BB hood ???? What about aftermarket hoods that have a slight raised design that matches neither sb or bb one exactly ????

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nope, has to be the hood that is correct to the engine combo,

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As stated the hood has to be correct for the engine.I know the 69 Camaro's were having issues with hoods.Also if the hood came with a rear cowl seal (rubber) it has to be there. gsa612

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For many years, it seemed like everybody racing a '69 Camaro had a ZL2 cowl-induction hood on it. Competitors must have complained that only a handful of Camaro models were actually available with the hood, and they were right.

The cowl hood was an option on SS and Z28 models in 1969 but was included on all COPOs (including L72 and ZL1 cars) and Pace Cars.

The ZL2 option included a solenoid and flapper in the hood. The wiring for the solenoid was routed through a special hole in firewall above the fuseblock. Only 10,026 cars received cowl hoods in 69 and about half of those went to COPOs and Pace Cars, meaning there were only 5,000 Z28s and SSs (out of about 20,000 Z28s and 30,000 non-Pace Car SSs) that received the cowl hood.

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Does anyone here run a 70 1/2 Camaro 402/375 or a 71 402/300 hp combo in SS.If so does the hood close with an alum.intake and spacer? without raising the rear of the hood with the hinges?. gsa612

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Engine useage dictates hood configuration on 69 Camaro. Walking staging lanes looking at hoods on some Chryslr/ Ford, who knows?

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How about a 67 camaro with a 350 or a 396? Do you have to have the ss hood with the ornaments? Or a big block nova does it need the ss hood also?

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Just curious if the "hood must match engine used" gets thrown out the window if the car runs in a S/S GT class. Like if a guy built, say a 69 Plymouth Road Runner with a 1980 318 Thermoquad combo, could he use the 69 Road Runner scooped, fiberglass lift off hood that came on the 3 x 2 barrel models? Or say a 1972 454 360HP engine in a 69 Corvette, would he be allowed to use the L88 hood? Could be interesting if somebody put together a 68 Hemi Dart or Barracuda body package together with a MoPar small or big block Wedge as a GT combo.

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Couple of guys have done that. The two that come to mind easiest for me are Eric Bell and Darren Smith running 440-6’s in a Barracuda and Dart, respectively. Both ran with fiberglass hoods and scoops.

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I think you guys are splitting hairs and rearranging chairs on a ship that is going down!

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Wrong. RPO ZL2 Cowl Induction hood application is exactly as I explained it. COPOs and Pace Cars got the hood automatically (regardless of the engine), the hood was an option on all SS cars (again regardless of the engine) and Z/28s (which only came with the 302).

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Only engines available with SS option were the 350-300hp, 396-325hp, 396-350hp, 396-375hp cast iron heads, 396-375hp aluminum heads.

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Correct! Now, let's move on to those Chrysler and FFFFord hoods!

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As it pertains to STOCK ELIM., engine usage dictates hood configuration.

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Also correct! Now, let's get to the Chryslers and FFFFords!

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No, still wrong. The fact that only certain engines came in SS models doesn't change the hood situation. I didn't say that every possible '69 Chevrolet engine combination could be optioned with a ZL2 hood, because you couldn't get every possible engine combination in an SS or a Z/28. For example, if you purchased a Camaro with the 255 HP 350 in a Camaro coupe or convertible, a ZL2 hood would not have been available. This would be because the SS and Z/28 packages were not available with the 255 HP engine. COPOs (L72 427/425 and ZL-1) were built with ZL2 as standard equipment. All Pace Cars (coupes and convertibles), with any of the engines that were available in them (just Pace Cars), were also factory-equipped with ZL2. And any SS model with any of the engines available in them could be optioned with ZL2. Finally, Z/28s could be optioned with the hood, as well.

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Nhranml, in the case of a 69 Camaro, engine usage does dictate which hood can be used. A Camaro must be a SS in order to get a 350/300 or a BB. A Camaro must be a Z-28 in order to get a 302. A base Camaro can't have a 302, 350/300 or a BB so it can't have a ZL-2 hood.
The way I see it, you're both right. Can we get on to Chrysler and FFFFord hoods now?
You're not a Mopar guy, are you???

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You guys are stating it differently than I was looking at it, but you're absolutely right. Sorry for the confusion. Mopar guy? Absolutely, though I've always stayed in the closet with that fact. Love Max Wedge cars, especially the high compression 426s with aluminum front ends. Have no idea whatsoever what hood was factory available on which car though, because it seems like everything you see from back then has a Max Wedge-style hood on it (even wagons).

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I hate to mess this up but I did ask the original question let me in a more serious exact way ask.......can I put an L88 BB hood on a SB 350/300 1969 Corvette STOCKER ???? Can we get a definite answer ???? Is there still a debate with this ????

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You can definitely not use an L88 hood with any sb combo in Stock elim.

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Billy,
As you probably know, I'm a die hard Mopar guy and even I take issue with the some of the hoods I see on Plymouth and Dodge cars.
I was shocked it was enforced for the Camaro two years ago based on the other bogus crap allowed in Stock classed cars.
My pet peeve is, why isn't relocation of the battery allowed for all, based on how liberal the rule book is today?

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I believe the 69 Corvette 350 did not come with a domed hood of any type.The 70 350 LT1
had a shorter domed hood with LT1 emblems per side,which was the same as the low hp 454.The 68-69 L88 hood was taller,you could put a tunnel ram under it lol...So I would say no to the L88 hood or any factory domed hood on a 69 SB Vette.. gsa612

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Since the subject of stock hoods has been brought up, when did NHRA allow original hood latches to be removed and replaced with hood pins? I agree that a few cars came from the factory with only hood pins but not as many types as are showing up in Stock and S/S today.

The rulebook still says full stock hood including latches, hinges, springs, brackets, and braces as originally produced must be retained. Super Stock reads the same way.

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My cousin has an un-restored '69 Vette with a 350 and it has a flat hood.

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Hi Frank,
I would comment that if you want a rear battery only, then one should get a race edition Mopar, a Thunderbolt, or a W30 Olds, among others.
There is just too much of this .."He's got it . I want it too. "
That's not how Stock is supposed to work.
More importantly, there is too much listening to this jive , by tech.

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Darren Smith runs the stock steel hood.....never saw a glass hood on it.

Never saw a 440/6 in it either......4 Brl. only as I remember.

I am pretty confident about this......I just hauled it 1/2 way across
the country and got a pretty good look at it!

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Well,how much ET is a hood latch worth?
A racer rolls up to the lanes for tech and takes his hood off,or pulls out a broom handle to hold it open. Our tech guys in D4 would turn you around and most likely tell you to never come back .LOL..

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Probably not a lot........... unless you put it with your missing front bumper brackets, the aluminum radiator, master cylinder, water pump, light-weight aftermarket brakes (safety first!), chemically enhanced (or aftermarket) front fenders and hood (minus the latch), oh and your plastic dummy battery in front to go with the real, relocated battery in the trunk. And I almost forgot the super lite front wheels (with the SFI tags) that crack when you turn corners.
Probably an easy couple of hundred pounds that you can stuff in the trunk. Make sure it's legally mounted! Safety first!!!

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I'm not saying a word............

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Thanks for the comprehensive list
I'm going to start with my front bumper brackets...hope it doesn't fall off.
LOL

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All SB's have to run flat hood except LT-1 car which gets the same hood as the BB. All BB's have to run the BB hood except L-88 BB which gets the BIG bubble hood. Would love to run the L-88 hood on a BB but not gonna happen (I don't think). BTW, back in the old days Agaman did run the L-88 on a non-L-88 car. Not sure how long he got away with that. BTW. NHRA calls the L-88 hood "Fresh Air Hood"