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Congratulations to Jim & Mary Hale for two years in a row K/SA Indy win with the Red Wagon

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Yes, congratulations Jim and Mary Hale, K/SA at Indy two years in a row! Here's Jim during qualifying on Wednesday.

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a...psh76fpwn3.jpg

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Met them at the Dutch several years ago when he had a SS/AH Cuda. Had a lot of fun talking about the old days. Great PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

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Jim Hale is a MOPAR living legend. That wagon is too cool.

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Agreed on both counts!

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a...pstfjfvxv6.jpg


Arvid Svendsen

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Known & raced Jim since 1967. Always a fine man. A hero of mine for certain.
Congrats Jim!

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Sorry, I have to ask " what is with the oil pan?" thats stock?

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Didn't Jim run a 1970 383 wagon awhile back?

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I have no idea. Ask Jim.

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He passed teardown so apparently it's legal.

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West coast rule book ?

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Welcome to the new "Stock"



Something like this, maybe?

http://www.cfrperformance.com/CHRYSL...cfr-7117-z.htm

What I want to know if they were able to shake them down for the contingency plan.

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Yes, the new STOCK....goes something like this.....send e mail to Pat C....tell him that he is doing an outstanding job for NHRA....Cry like a baby....convince Pat that all racers with similar combos are experiencing bearing problems...cry like a baby...propose to Pat C that new oil pan will solve the problem and convince him that it is STOCK appearing..cry like a baby......said racer has now officially applied for WELFARE.....watch NHRA competition site for rule revision....Welcome to the new Stock Eliminator....

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You've got to be all over the map on this stuff too. You can't you use a Chevy II Moroso oil pan on any other models but you can use a race 426 reproduction pan on a 383 station wagon. Make sense to anyone? By the way congrats to Jim. I was waiting for the youngster with the big Pontiac to get it together and give you a run but it didn't happen this time.

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The new STOCK eliminator must also include just a slap on the wrist for being caught with a trans brake.

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Who had a trans brake in Stock Eliminator or you just repeating rumors?

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Mr Hale wins Class, passes tear down and he’s being trashed. Nice..
Congrats Mr Hale and Team for a class win.

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Well I have been out of the game for a while, but i'm learning..
Thanks

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Look in Page 25 of the NHRA Accepted Products and you will find a multitude of aftermarket oil pans that have been approved for Stock Eliminator class for many other engine makes.


http://promod.nhra.com/userfiles/fil...edProducts.pdf

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For the record here, this dude is not knocking Mr. Hale at all. Smart racers play the best cards they are holding.
My issue is this . I'm a fabricator by trade.
How about if I took a stock 283 pan and added 3" to the bottom of it and showed up at Indy with it. Think it would fly? Of course not. ..and neither should a hemi pan be allowed on a basic 383.
The reason why it is, is in my first post in this thread.
Carry on...

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Jim Hale is as good at this as anyone on the planet.

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Did the oil pan get Jim Hale the class win? No. Is the pan legal? Yes. Does it help the bearings to live longer? I would say yes. Now, what did get Jim the class win is his many years of refining engines, transmissions, and cars to make the most power and use it efficiently.
Now for the trans brake deal. It is my understanding that someone claimed to have seen him push a button to back up so tech had him take his console apart so they could look for a trans brake wire. They found nothing. Then they had him jack his car up so they could look underneath for a wire. They found nothing. Then they wanted him to pull the pan. This was in between rounds in Eliminations so either way he is not going to be able to make the next round of Eliminations, so he loaded up and left. At the next race which was the Divisional at Tulsa his son was with him and they pulled the pan and let Div 4 tech inspect it. Nothing was found. The way I see it there was never any proof that he had a trans brake in it and the car doesn’t seem to have slowed down any. If anything it may have gotten a little faster. Jim is a stand up guy and yes, he is very good at what he does.

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I understand his pain,called to do this between rounds(bad move from tech) ,he should have been the given a chance to do it later at that race!
Not sure what doing it at the next race would prove though?

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"Welcome to the new "Stock"



Don't forget you said that you. I knew I got the inspiration for my pan somewhere-Derby.

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Let me tell you a Jim Hale story.......

A few years back I was building a G/SA car, earlier in the year Jim set the G/SA record, so I was very interested in his car and the incremental times it had run on the record pass.


Jim rolls into the track and I walk over to talk to him, he's never met me, we start talking and he invites me into his trailer, jacks the car up and tells me to look it over, gets out his time slips and shows me his record runs, tells HP numbers from his DTS dyno. I will never forget the time Jim spent with me-truly an excellent human being-the BEST! And for the record he built the Mall in my town..........

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Your understanding is wrong. Tech was the one that saw him activate a switch to back up at the scales. The switch and wire was found. Refusing to drop the pan is why he was charged for the event with zero points toward his national event total.