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ghost 09-14-2016 10:03 PM

fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
why you do the fuel test in stock super stock class?
If you want to cheat, you can do with so much options.


in other classes, no fuel tests and nobody run with nytro or any additive

The problem is many car stock and SS, can run with pump gas. the racers lose time on the return road.

the racing fuel cost $12.00 VS $2.00 for pump gas.

Why the pump gas is not accepted?

for me... the fuel test is useless, same for the head-up.


it's my opignon

Jim Wahl 09-14-2016 10:29 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Your knowledge of class racing is as poor as your spelling and sentence structure! I really hope English isn't your first language!

It's called a level playing field and fuel is checked in classes with indexes so illegal (cheating) additives cannot be added. S/SS are not the only ones where fuel is checked. Jim


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boostedf22c 09-14-2016 10:40 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
We ran a good 1/2 a second faster running methanol......that's not allowed. Fuel is the limiting factor on many combinations in S/SS and if it's not checked good luck hanging with the forced induction cars.

Alan Roehrich 09-14-2016 10:58 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Why? Because they are restricted performance based classes.

MR DERBY CITY 09-14-2016 11:11 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ghost (Post 514857)
why you do the fuel test in stock super stock class?
If you want to cheat, you can do with so much options.


in other classes, no fuel tests and nobody run with nytro or any additive

The problem is many car stock and SS, can run with pump gas. the racers lose time on the return road.

the racing fuel cost $12.00 VS $2.00 for pump gas.

Why the pump gas is not accepted?

for me... the fuel test is useless, same for the head-up.


it's my opignon

Here is my opinion, you need to try bracket racing, I am sure it is a better fit for you. Stk/SS is not for everyone ....How about that ??

Everett Vassar 09-14-2016 11:13 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Most racers at the top of their class work very hard to run real fast. The payoff comes with their class wins,and their heads up wins.wouldn't be fair for me to juice my fuel and put a half car length on them.

The Hawk 09-14-2016 11:16 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Why? Because NHRA says so....End of discussion.

james schaechter 09-15-2016 04:42 AM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
The time in line waiting to scale and fuel check is minimal and provides a quick way to validate some basic rule adherence. They do a good job moving people through in my opinion.

If they allowed pump gas, it would be very difficult to police what is right and what is wrong.

If you don't believe in heads up, class racing is probably not going to appeal to you. It is a lot more time and money to build and maintain one of the stock and Superstock cars than a traditional non performance car that is not restricted with the rules.





Quote:

Originally Posted by ghost (Post 514857)
why you do the fuel test in stock super stock class?
If you want to cheat, you can do with so much options.


in other classes, no fuel tests and nobody run with nytro or any additive

The problem is many car stock and SS, can run with pump gas. the racers lose time on the return road.

the racing fuel cost $12.00 VS $2.00 for pump gas.

Why the pump gas is not accepted?

for me... the fuel test is useless, same for the head-up.


it's my opignon


goinbroke2 09-15-2016 07:41 AM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Edit: never mind, was just adding my opignon. lol

Randall Klein 09-15-2016 08:02 AM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
As racers and chemists looked for any edge, stuff like Gold, ERC became available and expensive. Some had a harsh smell, and fuel ck guys were getting nauseatted as car after car idle by. When almost everyone had something, it was back to square one.
Additionally, NHRA saw a way to milk gas suppliers for $ to be a spec fuel.

Mike Croley 09-15-2016 05:22 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
The price of racing gas depends on the octane, and the brand. For example, Renegade 110 wouldn't be anywhere near $12.
As Alan said, Stock and Super Stock are restricted classes, and the restrictions include fuel.
There are only a handful of race fuels that are accepted by IHRA and NHRA. Fuel checks are done so that it can be determined that the racers are using an accepted ( legal ) brand and blend of race fuel. The fuels are tested against manufacturer supplied specs, so any additives or differences will show up.
The question of allowing pump gasoline in Stock and Super Stock has been debated for decades. But the one glaring problem is that very few if any pump gasolines are exactly the same each time you purchase them. For street driven vehicles, they don't need to be. And since they aren't the same day to day, or batch to batch, there's no benchmark to test against.

Ven302 09-15-2016 05:38 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
I feel something is missing when they don't fuel check. I am sure many will agree when there is no fuel check it raises alarms, just like no scales and no tear downs, all extra work but it provides a legitimacy to these performance based classes.

ALMACK 09-15-2016 09:16 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
You cannot get consistent results checking the specific gravity of pump gas.
That's one of the reasons for spec fuel in Stk/SS

Only IHRA Pure Stock is allowed to run pump gas in Stock Eliminator.

Dan Fahey 09-16-2016 12:11 AM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 514929)
You cannot get consistent results checking the specific gravity of pump gas.
That's one of the reasons for spec fuel in Stk/SS

Only IHRA Pure Stock is allowed to run pump gas in Stock Eliminator.

Just wish unleaded without ethanol was more available.
D

Dave Noll 09-16-2016 12:41 AM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 514939)
Just wish unleaded without ethanol was more available.
D

I use an app called "Pure Gas" on my phone. It shows stations that carry Premium Unleaded Non-Ethanol. It uses your phones GPS.

Dan Fahey 09-16-2016 12:30 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noll (Post 514940)
I use an app called "Pure Gas" on my phone. It shows stations that carry Premium Unleaded Non-Ethanol. It uses your phones GPS.

Thanks !

Know that Island Dragway sells Sunoco 260 GT and Lebanon Valley pumps have VP Unleaded 98 Octane for $5/gallon.
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Bill Bogues 09-19-2016 03:43 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
I always figured it was to get free gas to run Nhra's scooters

Ed Wright 09-19-2016 04:24 PM

Re: fuel test in stock superstock WHY!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Bogues (Post 515220)
I always figured it was to get free gas to run Nhra's scooters

Never thought of that one. LOL


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