Holbrook and Barton are going to the Dutch
 

I think we all knew that David Barton would be going to the Dutch Classic because he goes every year, and he wants to be the first Stocker in the 7s. Chris Holbrook is also going to the Dutch in an attempt to run in the 7s. The Dutch is always a great show; but this year should be extra special. Here is a link to the article on NHRA.com pertaining to Holbrook and Barton; read the last paragraph.

http://www.nhra.com/story/2016/9/5/h...y-stock-field/

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First "Stocker" in the 7's.

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That is so awesome!

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Yes it is!! I'll be there to see it too!!

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So is Skinner!!

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It's a long way from 8.20s to 7.99 they need atleast 3-4 mph too maybe more considering traction issues presented by the 9in tire 2 years out imo

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Depends on how much they were holding back or if they were holding back anything.There are two unknowns to get to the 7's, HP and traction. Air quality is not as big a deal for a compressed air motor and the Dutch is known for great air. Chassis and tire size will be a problem but I don't think it will be lack of HP for either one of these racers. 8.20 to 7.99 see like a long way but today's technology will shorten up that trip. How short is the question. I will put my money on Holbrook and the 5.0 Ford motor technology to get there first. They will definitely be fun to watch. JMHO Oh and by the way, I have been wrong one time before.

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Hey Jody, good to hear from you. I go to the Dutch every year, so be sure to look me up. I will be sitting at the 330' cone, 8 rows up, right on the aisle. If I am out in the pits, you will see my red stadium chair. I look forward to seeing you in a few weeks!

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We'll do!! I'm looking forward to it!!

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Hey Denny, good to hear from you. I agree that it's a long way from the 8.20s to 7.99. However, they both made those runs at Factory Stock Showdown weight which is 3550 lbs. In FS/AA, which they will be in at the Dutch, they can weigh 3333 lbs. (575 factored HP X 5.50 class minimum weight break = 3162.5 lbs.+170 lbs. driver weight = 3332.5 lbs.), which means that they both can remove 217 lbs. The question is can either of them remove that much weight? No matter what happens, it should be a great show.

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Its hard to believe these super car stockers are running faster than the best AH cars with prostock technology. Crazy fast!!

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Mathematically speaking they have the potential to be in the 7s at the Dutch or other fall races at standard weight and everyone gets the new car bugs worked out.

Holbrook has been quickest of the Cobra Jets but Kevin Skinner, Chuck Watson and Anthony Bongiovanni is right there and I would count any of them out.

The COPOs certainly are going to go 7s as well.

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I didn't realize they got to weigh less hmm what's the FS/AA index 9.40? So they will take a hit hmm tough call.

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Denny, the Dutch is a National Open; AHFS is not in effect at National Open events, so there won't be a hit. They can go as fast as they want with no penalty.

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I was thinking the same thing while watching Indy on all access. Also thinking they should not be part of stock eliminator, but that's another topic.

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Agreed. That's a huge jump in ET. Hell, it took us an entire season to go from an 8.0 to a 7.9. 😀

But I don't think the tire is a limiting factor. We've gone 7's on a much smaller tire. As many others have as well.

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That is so totally awesome. You should bring your car. You should fit right in with the rest of them.

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Fitting right in isn't something we do very well. :)

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I believe Bruce just nailed it right here.....sorry guys but I can't get toooo excited about these cars , you see,....my personal FUN meter was pegged when Bobby DeArmond towed cross country in search of the nines. A/SA is a true stock eliminator class..

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maybe big chief should enter his pro mod in the shootout

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Agreed. The new factory race cars are cool and fast, but hardly are the same thing as a true Stocker, which was a regular production car with a regularly available production engine that most anybody could have walked into his local Ford, Chrysler, GM or AMC dealership, bought, registered, and drove home with license plates.
Yes, you can buy a new factory race car if you have connections and the $$$$$s, but you sure as hell won`t be legally registering it and driving it home. And it would not be anything like the factory available versions. Try going into a typical Chrysler dealership and tell the salesman that you want to drive home in a new Challenger with a 2 speed Powerglide and 9" Ford rearend. Not to mention comparing the naturally aspirated factory production cars is hardly the same thing as a heavily boosted purpose built "create motor" new cars. I think most class racers remember Bobby DeArrmonds historic 9 second feat, but most couldn`t recall which late model "paper" car ran the first 8 second ET in Stock.

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Don Fezell ran the first 8 second ET in Stock at the 4 wide Nationals at Charlotte in April 2012. He ran 8.95 in Q1 on Friday April 13 in his 2008 Cobra Jet, which at that time was a stick car, and I was there to see it.

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I agree with that.