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help if you win class are you in ?

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No

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thanks mark

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You still need to be among the 128 quickest qualifiers (or an alternate) to make the show.

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Several years ago Larry (prior to 200?), if you won class you'd get in, and the remaining spots would be filled with the quickest non-class winning entries. However, several racers (faster classed?), complained to NHRA about their running further under their index than many of the class winners, and NHRA gave into them. There was a thread about this sometime ago (last decade too?), and it may have shed more light on who benefited from that happening, and why it happened....

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Used to love seeing all the different combos in stock vying for that class win, 4 doors, wagons, convertibles,....whatever it took to get that class advantage.....now every other car in the staging lanes is a friggin red camaro......

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I've raced a Sedan Delivery , many coupes , and a ragtop but none drove as well as my 'friggin red Camaro"........... Get over it .

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Yeah, but back then "that class advantage" meant over the cars in your individual class, to be the fastest car in your class, and not to be the fastest car in your class because you're the only car in your class. Big difference.

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2007 was the last year

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Hey Jack Flash, your friggin red Camaro should drive better than all your previous cars. With all the technology in your friggin red Camaro and the price tag that goes with it, it BETTER be the best. The manufacturers put you into a position to run as fast as you do with their advertised horse power ratings. By the time the AHFS sorts you all out, the newer breed of friggin red Camaro's will be out making your car another also ran.

The only benefit of being the fastest in your class is bragging rights. Class means nothing anymore. Just the fastest "rated" cars are in. Look at the qualifying sheet, it is dominated with newer cars in the upper half. Of course except for combinations that NHRA graciously re-rates and then is in the top three. Ooops, how did that happen.

So Larry, there you have it, winning class is for ego, not qualifying.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA my wagon is gray and friggin red.

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Whether you won class because of the NEW cars with underrated factors or overlooked low class turbo vans is the same thing. You are an artificial winner courtesy of NHRA and its factoring methods.
Find a class of all the same car and you deserve to be proud of "winning class" regardless if all of you are underfactored the same.
The mod SS classes could be better if the attraction of the New car factoring weren't available.

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Once you didn't have to win class to get in the eliminator, the variety went away ,...along with the allure, for many.

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Dick Butler;516869]Whether you QUAILIFIED because of the NEW cars with underrated factors or overlooked low class turbo vans is the same thing. You are an artificial QUAILIFIER courtesy of NHRA and its factoring methods.
Find a class of all the same car and you deserve to be proud of QUAILIFING regardless if all of you are underfactored the same.
The mod SS classes could be better if the attraction of the New car factoring weren't available

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After Ron's diatribe I don't think there is anything else to say....LOL.....

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Thanks Ernie, I didn't think it was that terribly long ago...which is the primary reason I won't travel 1400+ miles to go there unless/until I can make my car go .35 quicker than it's running now (average qualifying et is -0.39 under my 15.60 index, with a this year best of -0.580 under 15.02 in Pomona)!. I want to at least race in the first round of the main race, and the 135th qualifier (Kyle Ratcliff), was -0.869 under his index. I'm not sure how Indy's air compares with Pomona's, but I know I need to step it up a bit before I make such a trip!