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What do you all think of the new rule just posted on NHRA for Stock and Stock runs being excluded from Automatic Horsepower Factoring System at Indy.

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Since the new cars are in their own classes, cool!

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I like it. It will get run it just like the opens and let people play. I can't think of anything not to like about it.

Eric

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About time.

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Sounds cool. I wonder how many cars will be 1.5 or more under??

As a side note - - How about letting all cars run in the eliminator, instead of just 128.
The quota for Indy in Stock and Super Stock is 180, would only add 1 round to the eliminations if all cars ran.

NHRA even has a provision in the rule book for point distribution of fields over 129. See 2016 rule book - Points and Related Programs Section 3 page 3.

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Great !!!!!!

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J Allen will be No 1 in that Vette. New cars guys better turn it up!

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like

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Hmmm...

Does NHRA read Class Racer threads ?

As Posted March 2015 :

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=57356

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I totally agree.

The only downside is that a .800 under won't cut it this year if the quota is 128

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If the race is an NHRA National event or a Lucas Oil Series race, then the AHFS should be in effect. Without having some sort of HP system in place, the HP factors will never be corrected to where they should be.

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Fred Indy is only one race of 24, just a little reminder. You need every so often.

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You gotta car?, Mr negative?

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I think it's great and about time. Now raise the quotas in stock and super stock to 250 cars each, lets make stock and super stock a performance based class again even if it's just for one national event a year!!!!

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Don't tell Marty Buth about this.

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now we are talking, bring out your big boy toys or stay on the porch, if you don't run -90 don't even think about it, Top Eliminator Club is cheaper, lol

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Evidently, you have never heard of Marty Buth....

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Too late...already did.

lol

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How about no. If your car is not fast enough, you don't get in. Keep the best 128. like always

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Absolute bulk**** .... So they just skip thier own rules ??? So the bogus *** fords get to win class at Indy with no repercussions .... NHRA has no integrity or intelligence .... They are just $$$$ whores

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Yea I'm pretty sure I don't have anything for Marty...lol...that turbo 4 banger is bad fast!

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How much money do you think is involved with this decision? Somebody with a turbo 4 cylinder mustang paid off NHRA? Fords are the only cars underfactored?

Good job by NHRA to pick the biggest class race of the year to let the cars fly. It's a shame records can't be set here.

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While this certainly will change the order at the top I fail to see how it will change the bump much if at all. Don't the bottom 30 or so guys near the bump pull out all the stops as it is? Remember we're pulling the FS/XX cars out of the eliminator anyway. Hey Larry Hill, can I borrow your truck?

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More like -1.10.

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Agreed. There's no reason that this will change the bump spot.

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You guys are fools if you think the bump spot will not change. I will bet there will be 15-20 newbies to Indy this year because of this rule. racers like Alan Mackin with -1.50 rides that now get a free pass at a national event. The bump will go up to right around -1.00 and I don't think that will get you in this year.
Kevin there only pulling out the fastest 8 FS/XX cars the rest get to run in stock at -1.20 to -1.50 with that super soft index. and I think the truck is a dead player with the 4 banger mustang for the pole. Heck the truck is a dead player in the same class as the stick comet with a 302 that went -2.00 under last week down around St.Louis testing.

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Never say never so you may be right Charlie. Still, I'd be shocked if we have 128 cars at -1.00 under. Unless, of course we get mineshaft air. Now for the really important question. Who's starting the pool?

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NEVER count out the truck!

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I think it will be an interesting twist and fun to boot. Letting the bogus combos shine for a race is better than having them let off at half track and still go way under. ( remember when the "new" cars were doing that? Barf! I would rather see all of the cars run flat out for one race! It won't help our combos or cars, get in, but it will be cool to see. There are some real fast cars that are well tuned and driven and not "bogus" that can show off a bit as well.
I do hope that there is a bigger dance floor in tech, however! Bring your gaskets! LOL.

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I want to gamble on that 1.00 under bump spot. Anybody want a gentleman's bet on that?
I think if you go 1 under you will go home!

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I predict .901 will be the bump

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Kevin the truck is all apart, but we still work on it.

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Great Idea!!! This is great for class racing.

Class eliminations at Indy this year will be WFO and set up on KILL. Everybody will set up cars for FAST and no wheel racing at the stripe.

I doubt the bump will change. Looking at the last several years I would think that after the top 64 most of those cars are running flat out. The top 32 will be interesting though. If a stick comet can run 2.00 under may be time to build one:)

Kudos to NHRA!!

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How about this scenario? Everyone runs Wide Open and magically the system gets revamped over the Winter with Brand New factors.


No charge for the conspiracy theory.


Al Corda

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I couldn't agree with you more. They know that there is a problem which has to be addressed.

Bill Rink

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NHRA would not do that would they? Nothing gets by age and wisdom. I just wish you guys would have waited a little longer to let the cat out of the bag.

Ashton you better get to work. The comet with a stick is a simple math problem 50 hp light equals -2.00 under in U/S

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I Wish I had a 40 are so under factored Combo!!!!!!!

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You know how I feel ... I think it's a good thing !!!! We need more events like this even if it's just for qualifying like I've said in the past !!! Thank you NHRA !!!!!!

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LOL

But that cat really wanted out Charlie :D

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