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Spyphish 04-06-2016 02:21 PM

1966 Coronet stocker
 
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Would like to put this in stock with a hemi but have a few questions.


1. Since only two four doors were equipped with the hemi can I run stock with a hemi?


2. Can I run a trailer hitch in stock?


3. Can I use original paint as is?


I am one sick puppy!!!!!

FireSale 04-06-2016 04:05 PM

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I don't think you can run the 4 door hemi in stock if only 2 were made. I have a 68 Mustang coupe that I'd like to have dressed for stock or super stock as a GT350 but only two of those were made. The rest were all fastbacks. One is MIA, believed crushed, and Mean Green is out there somewhere.

I have a hitch on my street/strip car but I drop it before tech. It bolts to the frame. The car and trailer are both in my avatar over to the left.

Paint? Rules say
Quote:

Paint must be complete and professional. Driver or owner must have original receipt totaling not less that $3,000. Self painted cars will be booted.
We are all a little nuts.

Afterthought: Coronets are my favorite MOPAR body.

Dale

FED 387 04-06-2016 04:30 PM

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Its in the guide both as a Stocker and Super Stocker both the base coronet and the coronet deluxe FOUR DOORS ---

Rory McNeil 04-06-2016 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 500245)
I don't think you can run the 4 door hemi in stock if only 2 were made.

Paint? Rules say

We are all a little nuts.

Afterthought: Coronets are my favorite MOPAR body.

Dale

I was under the impression that there were something like 8 Coronet 4 door sedans built with 426 Hemis. I saw one in the Don Garlits Museum in FLA years ago, and a different colored version in a magazine as well.
As for the "Paint Rules", where did you see THAT?! It certainly was not in my NHRA rule book.

Bob Shaw 04-06-2016 06:15 PM

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The trailer hitch is OK if it was factory installed and not modified. You are not allowed to hang weights on it.

Dwight Southerland 04-06-2016 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 500250)
Its in the guide both as a Stocker and Super Stocker both the base coronet and the coronet deluxe FOUR DOORS ---

Exactly. How do you think they race Max Wedge and Hemi station wagons? Or Hemi Barracuda convertibles? Or Dick Simon's '67 Fairlane convertible 427 automatic?
But that rule only applies to Fords and Mopars. The '67 Corvette L88 was in the class guide for years until someone decided to race it. Then it was removed.

kansas stocker 04-06-2016 06:52 PM

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I consider the hitch as bolt in ballast.
My become the new hot item.
Pete

Spyphish 04-06-2016 07:50 PM

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These boys are BONE stock and unrestored so I will not alter. One of eighteen auto (green) and one of thirty one stick (brown). BUT open season on four door. I just don't want to show up and be booted!!

rognelson777 04-06-2016 08:03 PM

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1st, i think you have a letter in your possession that may have already banned you from competition.

1A if it is in the guide, run it.

2nd the paint will not be a problem if you clear coat it. PPG industries has a paint Patina package that sure looks like your car.

3rd, hitch looks like a bolt on, so that might be the only problem.

good luck, cannot wait to see this car run with a reher morrison hemi.

FireSale 04-07-2016 01:03 AM

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In case you took me seriously, the paint rule was a joke...

This isn't. I found it on the web:
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1. There were 55,683 1966 Dodge Coronet 500s sold.
2. 360 of those were Hemi powered, of which 21 were convertibles.
3. Hemi breakout, ’66 Coronet 500:
> 204 4-speed hardtops
> 12 4-speed convertibles
> 135 Automatic hardtops
> 9 Automatic convertibles
All street Hemi blocks, 1966-‘71 were engineering P/N (“casting”) 2468330, as were the ’64-’65 castings, and even MP replacements (with a “M” suffix added to those).
Based on the above, you have a pretty rare car. An automatic hardtop HEMI represents less than 1/4 of %1 of the production run.

The 66 Coronet 500 4 door with the 426 HEMI is, indeed, in the NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide.

Dale

Steve Stasko 04-07-2016 06:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 500284)
In case you took me seriously, the paint rule was a joke...

This isn't. I found it on the web:


Based on the above, you have a pretty rare car. An automatic hardtop HEMI represents less than 1/4 of %1 of the production run.

The 66 Coronet 500 4 door with the 426 HEMI is, indeed, in the NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide.

Dale


Not sure how a '66 Coronet 500 4-door of any kind is in the NHRA Guide since none were produced.



Stephen has 2 Hemi Deluxe model Sedans that he mentioned. All of the known 4-door '66 Hemi Coronets (4 total, 3 auto, 1 4-speed) are also Deluxe models. Not saying no base Hemi 4-door sedans were not built. They just haven't shown up yet...

FireSale 04-07-2016 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Stasko (Post 500287)
Not sure how a '66 Coronet 500 4-door of any kind is in the NHRA Guide since none were produced.



Stephen has 2 Hemi Deluxe model Sedans that he mentioned. All of the known 4-door '66 Hemi Coronets (4 total, 3 auto, 1 4-speed) are also Deluxe models. Not saying no base Hemi 4-door sedans were not built. They just haven't shown up yet...

NHRA is far from perfect. The 68 GT350 Mustang isn't in the Stock Car Guide. Below is what I found under Dodge 1966:

CORONET 500
Sedan 2 Dr Hdtp
Convertible 2 Dr
Sedan 4 Dr


Dale

FED 387 04-07-2016 11:28 AM

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1966 Coronet 4 dr sedan 425/426

Base--- Stock 8.67/Super Stock 8.19 -- Shipping Wt.----3686

440 4 door sedan---Stock 8.92/Super Stock 8.42 --Shipping Wt-------3686

500 4 door sedan----Stock 8.76/Super Stock 8.27---- Shipping Wt. ----3722

Now I don;t know how many were actually assembled but unless there is a ruling from NHRA I see no reason that the car cannot be run

FED 387

Steve Stasko 04-07-2016 12:32 PM

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I'm thinking of '65 then. I know there were none in '65.


Sorry about that.


As far as the actual '66 Hemi 4-door production. It's far greater than what is known. I think an in-depth search of the Chrysler microfiche records would shock many of the "experts." I have an eyewitness account of 4 matching '66 Hemi Coronet four doors that were at a dealer-only auction in August of 1966. None of those have surfaced yet. The original owner of my '66 Hemi Sedan went to buy one of those cars, but ended up buying the Sedan I now have instead. I have questioned some of the other people that were with him at that particular sale, and they also recalled the four matching four doors being there with Hemi engines in them.

impstocker 04-07-2016 10:16 PM

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About this paint rule:

Paint must be complete and professional. Driver or owner must have original receipt totaling not less that $3,000. Self painted cars will be booted.

Is this for real? Is this new? does it really say "Self painted cars will be booted."

Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala self painted

impstocker 04-07-2016 10:20 PM

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OK FireSale

You got me on that paint Rule!

Will Lamprecht Still self painted $400 Metalflake Silver and Candy Apple Red
1965 Impala

Spyphish 04-07-2016 10:33 PM

Re: 1966 Coronet stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rognelson777 (Post 500270)
1st, i think you have a letter in your possession that may have already banned you from competition.

1A if it is in the guide, run it.

2nd the paint will not be a problem if you clear coat it. PPG industries has a paint Patina package that sure looks like your car.

3rd, hitch looks like a bolt on, so that might be the only problem.

good luck, cannot wait to see this car run with a reher morrison hemi.


I still have that letter on the dash UNOPENED. So, I am here at D4 Belle Rose LODRS and will ask for a ruling on the 4 door 4 speed. More to follow!!!

FireSale 04-08-2016 10:40 AM

Re: 1966 Coronet stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by impstocker (Post 500338)
OK FireSale

You got me on that paint Rule!

Will Lamprecht Still self painted $400 Metalflake Silver and Candy Apple Red
1965 Impala

If you type [-quote-] and [-/-quote-] without the dash marks you get this:

Quote:

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.
Forgive me, it's the Internet...

Dale: Self painted and striped 68 Mustang coupe. Passed tech at two tracks.

Frito 04-08-2016 03:40 PM

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The only way you would be able to run that car with the trailer hitch is if it came with the 3 on the tree and had less than 100,00 miles at the time of the first tech inspection. There are TWO SCOOPS available though. The external modifications to the heads may be OK in this combo.

Spyphish 04-08-2016 08:43 PM

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Well race fans we have a good news bad news day to report. 66 4 door Coronet in the guide so game on. Bad news, car must be presentable so I MIGHT make a local points deal but NEVER a national event without a paint job and dent repair. So this thread is cooked 'cause I ain't painting or patching it.


PS -001 followed by a 000 with a clutch and you were in the laser business = extra tech inspection LOL.

Spyphish 07-17-2016 07:48 PM

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Well, we started dismantle last night. Found 3 build sheets and the cert card. Have some "run over something big" repair on undercarriage but all body work is DONE already. Thanks to decals. It's in the flesh and in the guide. Will start on motor at weeks end. Cool car.

Dave Gantz 07-17-2016 11:17 PM

Re: 1966 Coronet stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyphish (Post 509356)
Well, we started dismantle last night. Found 3 build sheets and the cert card. Have some "run over something big" repair on undercarriage but all body work is DONE already. Thanks to decals. It's in the flesh and in the guide. Will start on motor at weeks end. Cool car.

So, it's back on? Your previous post says you aren't doing it.

pfordamx 07-18-2016 01:39 PM

Re: 1966 Coronet stocker
 
I could've swore that nhra has let people run combinations based on the manufacturer saying they would've built it if someone had ordered it.

Spyphish 07-29-2016 08:26 PM

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We start welding connectors and other bracing this weekend on the 4 door. Had to patch three spots in under carriage. Will post some pics later. Check out Vicari auction Biloxi as the brothers and sisters will be featured on Friday night. Not many folks like the Coronets, but I do, especially the hemis!!! Phish

Spyphish 07-31-2016 08:04 AM

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A little tire clearance needed.

Alan Roehrich 07-31-2016 12:52 PM

Re: 1966 Coronet stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 500263)
Exactly. How do you think they race Max Wedge and Hemi station wagons? Or Hemi Barracuda convertibles? Or Dick Simon's '67 Fairlane convertible 427 automatic?
But that rule only applies to Fords and Mopars. The '67 Corvette L88 was in the class guide for years until someone decided to race it. Then it was removed.


Now Dwight, that's not nice of you to say. :cool:

Since they don't have to actually BUILD 50 of the stuff they stick in the guide anymore, the 67 L-88 should get put back in the guide.

Jim Wahl 07-31-2016 03:06 PM

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I remember seeing an article in SS ? or Hot Rod Mag. on a restored '66 Hemi 4 door either an LAPD or a CHP car. Said it was an original "Police Package" car and had the red bubble revolving light on top and whip antennae and all! Got rid of all my od mags years ago but maybe somebody else will remember the article. They definitely made some! Jim


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Dwight Southerland 07-31-2016 06:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 510513)
Now Dwight, that's not nice of you to say. :cool:

Since they don't have to actually BUILD 50 of the stuff they stick in the guide anymore, the 67 L-88 should get put back in the guide.

Agreed. My implied point exactly.

Jeff Stout 07-31-2016 10:14 PM

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/66-Dodge-Cor...lXgQii&vxp=mtr


Could be made into a clone.

Spyphish 08-01-2016 09:26 AM

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Got one tub complete and installed. Crate of driveline stuff arrive. Trying to make Cruising The Coast in October. Skipping Dutch.

Spyphish 08-05-2016 06:17 PM

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Engine compartment prep for paint. Tried a cleaner Cajun Brown which you cut with water. Did great. Treated rust with Ospho and then Bull Dog prep. All this is new to try so we will see. Protect the patina project.

Spyphish 08-21-2016 06:11 PM

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Engine room, tubs, front end with disc brake upgrade and overhaul done. Motor delivered to Reher. Dana rebuild next.

Spyphish 10-12-2016 08:32 PM

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Well dana still not finished but Reher motor done. Should qualify.

goinbroke2 10-13-2016 07:42 AM

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793lb, 1025hp, I'd be concerned it will twist it into a pretzel! LOL!

Wow...impressive numbers to say the least.


Yeah, it "should" qualify.

pfordamx 10-20-2016 12:53 PM

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Is this going to be ran in stock or superstock? with that kind of power i'd assume the motor was built for superstock unless i'm just way out of the loop on the hp #s hemi's are making in stock these days.

Spyphish 11-07-2016 09:02 PM

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Dana installed and motor waiting on proper mounts. Wildwood brakes all the way. Running in a few days or weeks I hope.

Spyphish 11-12-2016 10:25 AM

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Test fit tight. Will have to shim K member down and big time haircut on passenger shock tower to use the Mopar covers. Factory stamped steel will fit.

Don Morris 11-16-2016 10:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyphish (Post 519577)
Test fit tight. Will have to shim K member down and big time haircut on passenger shock tower to use the Mopar covers. Factory stamped steel will fit.

Stage V valve covers will fit and look good too.
I have a light turquoise 66 2dr sedan that runs B.

Spyphish 11-16-2016 10:35 PM

Re: 1966 Coronet stocker
 
Motor back out and heading to frame shop after this D4 open this weekend. It will take an alignment but not the motor. Driver side hit somewhere in its history. Thanks for the info.

Larry Hill 11-18-2016 02:52 PM

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Don's stuff is fast.


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