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Dan Bernay 04-02-2016 09:01 PM

FS1 Gainesville Sportsmen Coverage
 
Well I just got through watching and I saw TAFC and TAD, not even a MENTION of the other classes, pretty sad , won't be watching again

Ralph Cardamone 04-02-2016 09:32 PM

Re: FS1 Gainesville Sportsmen Coverage
 
I agree thought they were going to show Sportsman Racers
:(

Carguy49 04-02-2016 10:15 PM

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They did mention that the other classes were run later in the day, but why would that matter?? With the Sportsman show being delayed they should have included all classes. Pretty much a crap show.

Bob Lasko 04-03-2016 11:06 AM

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This show was no different than when ESPN showed them.

Bob Lasko

Wayne Totaro 04-03-2016 11:45 AM

Re: FS1 Gainesville Sportsmen Coverage
 
Reminds me of the lyrics to an old "Who" song! "Meet the new boss same as the old boss"

Tom Goldman 04-03-2016 12:11 PM

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Run later in the day means the TV crew isn't sticking around any longer than it has to .
It was the same with ESPN ,when the pros are done ,so are the TV crews.

FireSale 04-03-2016 12:29 PM

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Something I noticed was that the TAD and TAFC classes ran a full schedule of 16 cars with (mostly) full runs. The cars were driven by fresh faces with lots of enthusiasm, hit good numbers and (mostly) kept the parts in the motor. With TF running a short field and blowing motors at 1000 feet, maybe whack nitro and combine the two tiers into Pro Dragster and Pro Funny Car? Keep the injected nitro - blown methanol mix for dragsters and drop Force, Capps and company off the juice and down with alky hot shots like Jonnie Lindburg?

These cars are just as impressive from a fan standpoint as the nitro cars and the racing is better. Might be fun to see. Nitro has become a drug for NHRA brass and they seem to think fans won't show up without it.

As for the Sportsman class coverage, the show was fast paced at one hour and it would have been hard to fit it in. An hour and a half could do it or a separate hour for true Sportsman racing. I mean, they do Monster trucks and snowmobiles, right?

Dale

denbreeden 04-03-2016 07:39 PM

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WOW, they showed the TAFC final in Vegas!! But instead of showing anyone else they had to show Antron Brown's empty pit. OMG!!! Antron has left his pit and went to the staging lanes!!!!


Dennis Breeden

SSGT Mustang 04-03-2016 08:34 PM

Re: FS1 Gainesville Sportsmen Coverage
 
Wait for it.....

Won't be long before the NHRA apologists step in with their remarks about how great the all access program is, completely missing the point that sportsman exposure on FS1 could be used as a tool to help draw in new blood.

4406mopar 04-03-2016 09:14 PM

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They should show all the finals. If they can show poker and curling, this is 100 times better.

FireSale 04-04-2016 10:12 AM

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If I recall the deal right, Fox is providing air time and tech staff but NHRA is responsible for the production. If true, that's the problem here.

NHRA owns All Access at $100 a pop and is holding the Sportsman fan hostage by the wallet. They seem to think that if they don't give us Sportsman coverage then we will pay for it. Spectator admission aka All Access to Real Racers and their Real Race Cars is between $10 and $15 at Pacific Raceway and Bremerton International Raceway. And the fresh air and sunburn is free of charge. The couch or the pits, take your pick.

Dale

Ed Carpenter 04-04-2016 12:36 PM

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FS1 sucks! No sportsman cars at all. SOS as ESPN....

pmrphil 04-04-2016 01:24 PM

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It seems that FS1 is getting it's lead from NHRA - they really do believe that the "sportsman" run alky and everybody else is just filler. Sucks. NHRA isn't getting any more of my money.

Pinballer 04-04-2016 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 500119)
It seems that FS1 is getting it's lead from NHRA - they really do believe that the "sportsman" run alky and everybody else is just filler. Sucks. NHRA isn't getting any more of my money.

Exactly my feelings on the matter. It would appear that 'filler' doesn't even rate a single run down the track. I was so sick of interviews and taped segments I almost turned it back to baseball.

All I can surmise is this: what all of the gas-powered Sportsman classes do must be a type of racing so enormously difficult and impossible to understand that it can't be shown on TV and the commentators apparently can't explain it to the type of people who would tune in and watch a drag racing program to begin with.
Yeah...rrrright....

Stock726 04-04-2016 05:17 PM

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I agree 100%!!
What is even more ridiculous: They devoted a segment of the Gainesville show to have Bruno explain the .90 classes. Explained how a throttle stop works using Bertozzi's dragster. Still they can't even show the finals from anything but Alcohol???

Pistol Pete 04-04-2016 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stock726 (Post 500131)
I agree 100%!!
What is even more ridiculous: They devoted a segment of the Gainesville show to have Bruno explain the .90 classes. Explained how a throttle stop works using Bertozzi's dragster. Still they can't even show the finals from anything but Alcohol???

They should explain Comp, SS & Stock Eliminators as well.
Maybe 1 segment they might give it a whirl, after all Bruno did run Stock Elim.

Bob Lasko 04-04-2016 05:29 PM

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Motor Mania is free and has a lot of coverage and commentary. Div 3 runs a broadcast with commentary from the tower, and free.

Bob Lasko

SC1448 04-04-2016 05:38 PM

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I almost died from surprise when Bruno explained the trans brake and throttle stop function for the Super Class cars but, it would have been better to have tied it in with some on-track video and maybe used an actual Super Comp or Super Gas car for the demo instead of a Top Dragster with a Nitrous bottle (no offense intended Anthony!).
Better than nothing I guess. Keep trying FS1....
-Don

FED 387 04-04-2016 06:38 PM

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plus Bruno was World champ in Comp Eliminator and he currently competes in a COPO Camaro

FireSale 04-05-2016 10:20 AM

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Thumbs up for Bruno. I think he needs to be kicked up the ladder a few spots. He is so much more articulate than Tony P. is. I'm not a truck guy but I still like to watch Truck U and Garage Squad just because he is so informative and engaging. Bruno explained a throttle stop and Tony explained wheelbase on a dragster - and converted inches to feet...My wife knows what a wheelbase is...

I was in the stands for the NorthWest Nationals a few years back and the guy next to me was confused as heck by the .90 classes. He needed a major education on how the cars are built for speed and driven for time with flat out starts, backed off throttles and nailed peddles at half track. Same for the handicapped classes with slower cars getting a lead on the tree. People not already familiar with drag racing come to the track with limited knowledge of the sport as a heads up game and need to be educated by NHRA as to all of the fine details that go on beyond the smoke and thunder of the nitro classes.

This is where the big Fail is, in my opinion.

Dale

PozQB14 04-05-2016 11:32 AM

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Dale you nailed it. Sportsman racers want to see the sportsman racers because they understand it. They get all the in's and out's of the races and why the front end of the leader nose dives at the end before the finish line. As boring as the .90 classes are, the more you learn about them and what goes into them, they actually become more interesting. But to the common folk who just go to see the top fuel guys, they are as lost as ever. But just imagine what would transpire if the uneducated got some quick tips and lessons via FS1 during the down time, we might see an influx in new faces at the track. Seeing a 69 Camaro on the rear bumper will get some people on the edge of their seat, as will copo's that look similar to Camaro's people drive by every day on their way to work.


It is very possible that NHRA does not want to show sportsman racers during the live broadcast of the pro's simply because people will stop wanting to watch the pro's. I know people are bored with Pro Stock, even though those cars are works of art and the time that goes into building them would make someone's head spin. Bruno is the perfect guy to commentate AND educate the masses on sportsman racing. He can dumb it down for the most simplest of minds and possibly entice people to go out and try and build a car. Lets be honest, the stock/super stock guys are some of the nicest people I've met at the track, as long as your genuine and have some sort of knowledge base of the sport, and if you want to build a class car, going to a points meet or national event and asking questions is the best way to build a sense of what to do.

Keith 944 04-05-2016 02:59 PM

Re: FS1 Gainesville Sportsmen Coverage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 500163)
Thumbs up for Bruno. I think he needs to be kicked up the ladder a few spots. He is so much more articulate than Tony P. is. I'm not a truck guy but I still like to watch Truck U and Garage Squad just because he is so informative and engaging. Bruno explained a throttle stop and Tony explained wheelbase on a dragster - and converted inches to feet...My wife knows what a wheelbase is...

I was in the stands for the NorthWest Nationals a few years back and the guy next to me was confused as heck by the .90 classes. He needed a major education on how the cars are built for speed and driven for time with flat out starts, backed off throttles and nailed peddles at half track. Same for the handicapped classes with slower cars getting a lead on the tree. People not already familiar with drag racing come to the track with limited knowledge of the sport as a heads up game and need to be educated by NHRA as to all of the fine details that go on beyond the smoke and thunder of the nitro classes.

This is where the big Fail is, in my opinion.

Dale

I thought that was a little funny because he was showing (Anthony's I think) top dragster entry. I noticed the N20 bottle, which is not allowed in any t-stop category. Could have been a little misleading to someone thinking about learning the class...
All said and done, I enjoy watching Bruno and all sportsman air time we can get!

Irace007 04-05-2016 04:28 PM

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FS 1 gets an F for it's coverage of the "Sportsman " class . More to the class than just alky cars.

Maybe the best way to ensure coverage of ALL the Sportsman is to contact the real people who pay for it .The Sponsors
I for one will not purchase any products from the shows sponsors for not covering what I would like to see.And I will add ,it is most likely the last time I turn on NHRA/FS1 !

Ron Ortiz 04-05-2016 04:53 PM

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I thought the Moser ad was great, very well defined.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA cool shots

blkjack 04-05-2016 09:49 PM

Re: FS1 Gainesville Sportsmen Coverage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 500163)
Thumbs up for Bruno. I think he needs to be kicked up the ladder a few spots. He is so much more articulate than Tony P. is. I'm not a truck guy but I still like to watch Truck U and Garage Squad just because he is so informative and engaging.

and while we're on this subject, Tony is starting to make us wish Paul Page was still on the seen:eek:

C and W Racing 04-06-2016 08:00 AM

Re: FS1 Gainesville Sportsmen Coverage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Irace007 (Post 500191)
FS 1 gets an F for it's coverage of the "Sportsman " class . More to the class than just alky cars.

Maybe the best way to ensure coverage of ALL the Sportsman is to contact the real people who pay for it .The Sponsors
I for one will not purchase any products from the shows sponsors for not covering what I would like to see.And I will add ,it is most likely the last time I turn on NHRA/FS1 !

I, like most others on here, watch the sportsman show to see the classes other than alchol. That being said, they did say during the show that they were unable to show the other classes due to them still running eliminations at the time of the making of the sportsman show. It was first thought that the sportsman would possibly finish up on Monday.
Chuck


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