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What time on Wednesday morning, will the NHRA computer accept an entry at a lower grade point number?
Thanks in advance

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8 am PST.

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8 am pacific time , but don't worry.....Phoenix will be filled by then.

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Thank you

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Thank you...Not

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I thought Monday was the day people can pull out and not be dinged
with the entrance fee.
I also thought that Monday was the cut off day.
Terry K

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Monday is the out day..
Wednesday is the in day.

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Thanks Mark.
Didn't know that.Good to know!
Terry K

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Terrible Ted, sorry but I only know how to speak the truth. I am sorta like Trump..LOL....there are already 52 entries for Phoenix, 8 more and it's full. Your driver can't enter till next Wednesday so.....your F@cked !!......Personally I think the new quotas are unfair, I still can't imagine a business that just turns away $$.....On the bright side, the Sportsnats in Bowling green has a 200 car quota for stock and superstock.....Way Cool.!!

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Not that anybody on here really cares
Last year at the Phoenix National - stock only had 57 entries and super stock only had 51
Of course entries are up this year?

Ron

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We care Ron.., entry's are up because we are all excited about the economy, and Obama finally leaving the Oval Office.

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Wheres the like button???

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And don't forget, diesel fuel is under 2 bucks a gallon ....Yippeeeee,

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Are you going to the party this weekend, MJ?

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[QUOTE=MR DERBY CITY;493802]And don't forget, diesel fuel is under 2 bucks a gallon ....Yippeeeee,[/QUOT

I think NHRA should consider a flex quota. If they fill up before a certain grade point, like two or three they should consider opening it up.
Especially considering the fuel cost is more favorable than it has been in several years.

Shrinking the quota does not motivate too many to hit divisionals. Making the Nationals a better deal for sportsman does that.
If they were thinking they would open the quotas and make the Nationals so good that more people attend divisionals in order to get in.

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That's my boy MR. CITY !! He He

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Let's see....good one on ya Bernie.....Teddy, it's Friday lunchtime and 4 spots are open in Stk.

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Joey!

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Yeah ,...and 17 Super Street cars.

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[quote=james schaechter;493805]Great idea for sure,,

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Maybe I just don`t understand NHRAs logic, but to me it would make more sense to have the quotas set at a number that would make for a full eliminator field. Instead of having a limit of 60 cars, which would means numerous bye runs, making the quota 64 cars seems much more logical. Also, I thought that NHRA was streamlining their racer licensing procedure to encourage more Sportsman participation, doesn`t having Sportsman quota limits seem to work against that theory?

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I believe that NHRA wants to encourage Sportsman participation at the Divisional level.
As far as the National level, I don't think they've figured out how to get us to go away yet.

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Whoot..there it is.

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Ya know guys , they have meetings in the Ivory Tower about the sportsman racers. Geez, what else can we do to discourage these guys ? We haven't raised the payout in years, put em in the north 40 pit area, make em take 4 days off for work, pee test the hell out them, I thought the muffler issue would thin out the Super Classes,,,and then a revelation....These guys just keep showing up, they just really love to race ??

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MJ you just described the whole fall Charlotte race for me except the part about being yelled at for trying to drive around the end of the track. Even he looked surprised to know I parked on the other side.

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Raise entry fees, lower quotas...

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I think Billy is correct about what NHRA is attempting to do. NHRA sells the divisional program to the track that is putting it on for a "Package Price" That is the driving force in the change for the "Alky Sportsman" classes to go to a regional program. The cost of a "Divisional Package" got too high for the track owners to make a profit. Most of the tracks couldn't handle the 400 cars it took to crack the "nut" and make a profit. NHRA reduced the cost by eliminating the two most costly classes. With the Regional program they have a package they can sell to tracks that can handle the car count and have the spectator base that supports the Alky classes. Now NHRA has realized it must take steps to bring participation back to the divisional races. Everyone wants to skip over the Divisional races and enter the "Prestigious National Events". I've been told that Comp is usually subsidized by other classes. It doesn't have a paying car count. Study the recent rule changes that are directed at Comp. This is all just a numbers game with the numbers manipulated for a better bottom line. The real message is, Please consider yourself one of those numbers. That is just "Business in Corporate America".

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^^^^^Nailed it!

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Mr Derby City, I know the REAL reason Mark asked this question, and you partially touched on it with your "Your driver" comment...His "driver" races a DF/S classed car that ran exactly .727 further under the 'Vegas DF/S index than my car last Nov., so he feels it'll be an EASY Wally trophy for him to get. If he gets in, good for him, because winning class pays nothing anymore where my cars concerned, so I could care less about winning class! However, since now there's only 3 spots left for entry into the Arizona race, he might want to start sweating a bit, because his grade 1 may have as much luck in getting into the field as my grade 2 had at last years Winternationals!

I actually hope his driver does make it into the field, because it's not like he's going to be able to race me in the first round of eliminations anyway (given we race in a category where qualifying comes down to hundreds/thousandths of a second), and I would have better chances of winning in the lottery than he will of qualifying his car so he can race me in the first round! Oh, and one more point, should he try to do such a thing (and succeed), he'll expose himself to the stocker racers who check qualifying sheets to analyze their opponents runs, and if he's not able to adjust himself for a race against a non-DF/S car, that lucky opponent of his will be like an alpha wolf licking his chops to line up next to him! If I'm not in eliminations at that point, I'll be an interested spectator for sure!!!!

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Gee Gary , I sure am glad that you cleared all that up for me. I am utterly speechless after your dissertation. Mr. Derby......

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Thanks for the chuckle, now we' ll see if he gets in, or one of the champs backs out of the field to let him in, then 're-enters afterwards? No skin off of my nose!

I just noticed that class WILL NOT be contested at this event anyhow, so I hope he does make it in...the more cars the better, and we can thank the lowest fuel prices since the '90's for any increase over last years attendance...nice how the middle-east has forced Wall street speculators to lower prices on crude oil, so the fuel prices are lower for our tow vehicles....now if only racing fuel prices would drop too....

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2 entries remain as of Tuesday evening. Att. Alex K. Get ready, get set , GOOOO....get that computer warmed up.

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Raul Vargas, I hope you let Ang Man know about this as well...I just left him a msg. if he wants in too?

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Well today's entry day for Grade 1's, and I can think of three people who could fill those two remaining spots, and this thread has overlooked one pair of racers, one of which isn't entered into the field yet....Hawk Bros Racing!

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Couldn't enter my CC info fast enough. Two got ahead of me.
Full @ 60 .
How about a provisional entrant two days ago? Nice..

Anyone dropping out, please call me
602 769 0346
Thanks in advance

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Are you going to do quota updates like this for every Nat'l Event you enter this year Gary?

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Serious question here: as a first-time NHRA gold card holder, is it bad form to enter a national early? Should I always wait until the final week to enter, so I don't use up a spot under the quota?

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Very nice of you to wait till last week .
Just remember to enter ...👍👍😀😀

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Depends on who you ask, but yes that is always the idea that my Dad and I have followed. Let everyone enter that can and once its full enter as a gold card holder.

I screwed up and entered 2 days ago, thought grade 1 had already opened, and I apologize to anyone that didn't get in because of it.

Brad

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That is a bummer ....