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My Question to you is: Does this bother you? I have seen a growing number of people at car shows and online in forums with Stock and Super Stock Letters / Class catagories on their cars. These are not even remotely legal or class examples. Such as someone with a new showroom camaro having FS/B on the windshield or B/SA on a 69 Chevelle that has a built 454 no roll bar and cragars with full exhaust street car etc. I saw a nasty rusty 64 Dodge with C/SA shoe-polished on the window, it had a 383 2BBL!
It bothers me that these "imposters" are running around mis-informing people at car shows etc that "they" are Stock/Superstock cars. See example. (This is a nice car I just disagree with his impression) |
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As long as the person isn't trying to pass his car off as the real thing at an NHRA event, it doesn't bother me one bit.
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to real racers they look like jerks, i am sure they are all 1.20 under also!!
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The ones that bother me are the "Gassers" with no fenders, no hood, and fake, modern bolt on spindle mounts.
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I agree with Billy--as long as they are not trying to pass it off as 'legit' and try to run an xHRA race. If they want to cruise around, or bracket race it, fine.
I have no problem with a 'tribute car' design; as long as they do not try and pass it off as the actual car. Case in point: at Quaker City in the mid 90's during a muscle car nostalgia race, there were FOUR 1963 Plymouths; all represented as ex-Arlen Vanke 'Old Brownie' cars. One problem--Arnie only ever had ONE. That part I do have a problem with. If you want to bill your car as a 'tribute' car, fine. But do not try and claim it as the real deal. I saw, a few years ago, a late 1970's Mopar wagon in a grocery store parking lot. Regular street car. Was painted up with a Division 4 number (4472 or something?) and U/SA on the windows. I asked the guy about it, he said he saw a similar car in a racing magazine years ago, and wanted to make his street car look like it. I would like to know more information about that gold Chevelle. I see Butler PA and D/D Engines on it, which both are pretty close to me. In '68-'70, Dad was in Vietnam, so he would not have been here then. Who did, or does, have it ? |
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Doesn't bother me when they are at car shows. Although I saw a "retro" pro stock vega at a car show. When I looked inside it had a Powerglide I it! I admit that I threw up just a little bit when I saw that. :).
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The "real" ones are in the staging lanes.
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The gold Chevelle in post one must be really good. It's dial in is in permanent numbers...
All I care about is the win light. Dale |
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Myself, I like to post photos of other's peoples cars without knowing anything about it and judge them based on my opinion.
The car in the original post is a real L-78 Sedan. Here it is "back in the day." While not totally 100%, at least the owner is not lost on it's history... The real impostors are "Nostalgia Super Stock" cars, because my Grandfather had a 500+" all aluminum engine, Weld wheels, and 10.5"W tires on his car in 1965...HA! |
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Bothers me more when people post street cars or bracket cars in the Stock / Super Stock section of Racing Junk.
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X1000
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I have no problem with tribute class cars so long as they are not misrepresented.
I personally love looking at Stockers and Super Stockers that are dressed out with a look from a certain era. ( mostly late 70's to late 80's) |
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ISCA (show car sanctioning body) has competition classes that break down very similarly with NHRA classes. It just could be these cars are lettered to fall into these classes?
From the ISCA rulebook: "3330.0 Competition Stock — 1960 or later drag type stock cars. Must have seat belts, may have a shoulder harness. Rear tires can be no larger than 10.5” slick or 12” street tire. Bolt on traction bars and ladder bars are allowed. Wheelie bars are not permitted. Multiple carburetors and factory styled fuel injection systems are allowed. Must have full factory style interior; no interior gutting allowed. Rear seat may be removed for installation of roll cage or roll bar. Must be carpeted. 3340.0 Super Stock — American factory produced drag type high-performance cars. Roll bar or cage and shoulder harness. Engine in stock location. Any size street or racing tires. Must have full factory type upholstery; rear seat may be removed for installation of cage or roll bar; must be carpeted. Any intake manifold permitted provided unit is same configuration as original." |
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i am with you steve
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Seriously, you must have been really bothered seeing a Cobra Jet Snake decals so popular in the 70's. Give me a break, how about crying about when Claude Urevig sold the Truppi-Kling Briggs Chevrolet for over a million point two dollars with a completely Street stock Convertible with all the stickers instead of a original LS6 SS/EA that Ralph and Tommy built. Like Mr Billy Nees said "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"... How many false Mona Lisa are out there sitting in people gratto, nobody knows. If a guy likes to have a car with letters on his window, let him.CR
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IMO, Anybody can put whatever they want on their own car as far as class designation or numbers. As long as they aren't trying to run that class, who cares? Anyone who actually has an idea what the class designation is, will know whether it's real. |
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I came here to also mention the Truppi-Kling Chevelle. I was under the impression that they had restored the race car to showroom stock and then re-lettered it.If that was the case, why bother? By restoring it you destroy any value it's racing history would have offered.
What about all the fast bracket doorslammers with 'T/S' on the window that have zero mentions when you search for the driver number on Drag Race Central? |
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The Ray Allen Truppi/Kling car was put back up for sale last year and the motor had been updated to the way it was when raced.
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That was such a sacrilege, I think it had 14x6 Cragar SS wheels and small tube headers but otherwise stock restored.
Problem is taste, money and desire to preserve history are not always in the same dosage. The people that can afford to buy those cars often don't know or care. |
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