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Vinnie78 01-12-2015 01:31 PM

77 Nova 6 with stick
 
well I tried and gave up on the fairmont the clean cars are going for 9 k and higher . The 3k cars are rusted to the door handles and 8 hrs away ! And most have been crashed . I found a 77 nova 65k miles 3,speed on the column radio delete standard brakes without p/s . 6 cyl with the intricated cyl head . Has anyone tried to run one of those cyl heads or it it just a waste of time ? It fits well with a 305 2 bbl . And of course a 350 . The 350 has been done 10 million times and more there's nothing to find there so it's out. Any suggestions .

PJ305 01-12-2015 05:12 PM

Re: 77 Nova 6 with stick
 
350 2bbl @ 224hp 4 speed as a 75 model

Billy Nees 01-12-2015 05:55 PM

Re: 77 Nova 6 with stick
 
^^^^ that's a good one! Or, 78 305 2V @ 180 and a stick.

oldskool 01-12-2015 06:51 PM

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I remember back around '75 or so, some local guys built a straight six Chevelle with a Glide. I think it was either a '66 or '67. They were still running off national records at our track, I think. Anyhow, somebody running that same combo, bombed the record at some big race. So after that, the local Chevelle lost its advantage. So they quit racing it shortly.

It may have been a HP hit, instead of the lower record, that made the Chevelle uncompetitive. Who knows exactly when NHRA switched from records to the index system ? :confused:

I've read that it was started in 1975. But I don't know if that included the entire year or if it was switched over sometime during the season.

Mark Yacavone 01-12-2015 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oldskool (Post 458301)
i remember back around '75 or so, some local guys built a straight six chevelle with a glide. I think it was either a '66 or '67. They were still running off national records at our track, i think. Anyhow, somebody running that same combo, bombed the record at some big race. So after that, the local chevelle lost its advantage. So they quit racing it shortly.

It may have been a hp hit, instead of the lower record, that made the chevelle uncompetitive. Who knows exactly when nhra switched from records to the index system ? :confused:

I've read that it was started in 1975. But i don't know if that included the entire year or if it was switched over sometime during the season.

Beginning of 1975

Dwight Southerland 01-13-2015 09:48 AM

Re: 77 Nova 6 with stick
 
Was that Eugene Chaisson? '68 Chevelle wagon 230-140hp. Runner up to Bob Shaw's Corvair at the Sportsnationals.

Vinnie78 01-13-2015 01:33 PM

Re: 77 Nova 6 with stick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 458295)
^^^^ that's a good one! Or, 78 305 2V @ 180 and a stick.


I just located a 78 in a local wrecking yard they are checking to see if it's the 70 style motor in it . I should find out today .

MYRONARL1119 01-13-2015 10:01 PM

Re: 77 Nova 6 with stick
 
If you are looking at the 1975 Nova, over looked possibility is the 262 v8 2 barrel. Same engine that came in the 175/76 Monza.

Mark Yacavone 01-15-2015 12:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MYRONARL1119 (Post 458406)
If you are looking at the 1975 Nova, over looked possibility is the 262 v8 2 barrel. Same engine that came in the 175/76 Monza.

75 had the small carb.
76 had the bigger one, but no 262 in Novas.
I'd go with the 305 in T/Stick !

oldskool 01-15-2015 05:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 458348)
Was that Eugene Chaisson? '68 Chevelle wagon 230-140hp. Runner up to Bob Shaw's Corvair at the Sportsnationals.

No, this car was not a wagon. I don't think they raced it at any national events--maybe a division 4 race or two-don't know.

The only other thing I remember about it was that it had big A-1 Trans decals on it. So I assume they were running an A-1 converter. I think they were #1 at the time.

So that brings up another question. What are the top brands of converters that most Stockers run today ? :)

Kegracing 01-15-2015 07:30 PM

Re: 77 Nova 6 with stick
 
What brand of converter is about like what oil... what ever the person is running is the best in their eyes! :) I have a couple of ATI's and have been happy with their service. You do see a lot of stockers with ATI stickers.
There are several other good ones out there, including some of the people responding on here.
Good luck

Ken

Stock 412

Dave Noll 01-15-2015 07:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegracing (Post 458587)
including some of the people responding on here.

:):):) I like the one I bought.

Vinnie78 01-16-2015 02:01 AM

Re: 77 Nova 6 with stick
 
I here diffrent opinions about the 305 in the 77 nova . Some say it's not worth worth the trouble . The 6 cyl that came in it has that ****ty intrigal cyl head and is useless . I think the 350 has been done to death 1000 times over and over . may be a diffrent combo ? All togeather .

Billy Nees 01-16-2015 08:54 AM

Re: 77 Nova 6 with stick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinnie78 (Post 458621)
I here diffrent opinions about the 305 in the 77 nova . Some say it's not worth worth the trouble . The 6 cyl that came in it has that ****ty intrigal cyl head and is useless . I think the 350 has been done to death 1000 times over and over . may be a diffrent combo ? All togeather .

Well, if you're going to do a late Nova, you're pretty much stuck with a 6, a 305 2V or a 350. If you're hearing "different opinions" about the 305 2V being a good combo then either you're willing to spend more than I would be (a Dime) to build a combo, you want to build a "fast" combo or you're listening to the wrong people!

Dwight Southerland 01-16-2015 09:57 AM

Re: 77 Nova 6 with stick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinnie78 (Post 458621)
I here diffrent opinions about the 305 in the 77 nova . Some say it's not worth worth the trouble . The 6 cyl that came in it has that ****ty intrigal cyl head and is useless . I think the 350 has been done to death 1000 times over and over . may be a diffrent combo ? All togeather .

I won't go into my rant here to encourage you or anyone else to do anything. But I remember the same "opinions" about the 305 4-bbls when they were at 230.

Billy, you're a bit harsh there, no?!?!

Billy Nees 01-16-2015 10:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 458629)
Billy, you're a bit harsh there, no?!?!

Well, maybe I should tone down my typing finger a little bit. Vinnie, no offense. The 2V 305 IS a good combo.

Mark Yacavone 01-16-2015 07:43 PM

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Vinnie , If a decent Malibu wagon can go .9 under in Q, R ,and T, then a budget Nova with the same exact drive train @ the same exact weight should run a nickel under without too much trouble.
I would tell your friends with the opinions to come on here and make a few clicks of the mouse. All that info is just a few clicks away at DRC.

How'd I do , Dwight, Billy?

STK1217 01-16-2015 09:18 PM

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Mark

I spoke to Vinnie the other day and he said he was looking for a combo to set a record with, what I told him was that with the Mustang's, Cadillac's and Chevy pickup's in the same classes the 305 2v was not a good combo to set records. Hope that clears things up a little.

Mario

Mark Yacavone 01-16-2015 09:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by STK1217 (Post 458685)
Mark

I spoke to Vinnie the other day and he said he was looking for a combo to set a record with, what I told him was that with the Mustang's, Cadillac's and Chevy pickup's in the same classes the 305 2v was not a good combo to set records. Hope that clears things up a little.

Mario

Makes sense alright..
Better chance of setting a record would be with a lower class stick car, or FWD.
MY opinion!

Mark Yacavone 01-16-2015 09:40 PM

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Just thinking..with those parameters..Keep looking for a 302 2v car.


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