Who is going to win comp national title
 

I know it is comp, but with 4 guys tied for the lead it could get interesting. Who can tell us how this works out right now with tie breakers and what has to happen for each to win. Its going be a long winter. Tom

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hi tom , is shaun Vincent in the running at all ?

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Vincent is a player

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Interesting Rampy is only one entered at Pomona. He can't earn any more points. Can't believe Smiley, Richardson and Vincent wont be in Pomona. They all might be running Vegas this weekend.

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4 way tie for 1st, Shaun has run the fewest races and can add to his total by going 4 rounds at Vegas this weekend. Could be the 1st World Champ from Omaha since Marlin Bogner in 1980.

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Looks like Scotty Richardson can improve on a 52 Nat, David Rampy can improve on a 52 Div, Clark Smiley can improve on a 74 Nat and 52 Div and Shaun Vincent can improve on a 52 Nat and 41 Div race. Think this is right. Just depends on who wants to travel. Don't know the tiebreakers but someone is likely to race to try to improve on the totals.

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Scotty is not going, does not have a car to race. In comp you are only allowed to enter in 2 classes per year . He raced in D/EA and I/AA and crashed the car. (there is a top notch east coast based rental D/EA out there but at $20k a race or higher, a little steep)

Rampy can only claim divisional, if over 16 cars he needs to win 3 rounds to improve. (semifinals or better)

Shaun Vincent needs 2 round wins at divisional to improve, he says he is not going to Pomona because of work commitments

Smiley says he is not going but you never know.

Patterson has a shot at moving up and has a fast car, lost final at Vegas 2 nats

A couple other players could move up but would almost have to win next 2 races


And if you want to figure out tie breaker here are the rules

From the NHRA website:

NHRA LUCAS OIL POINTS TIE-BREAKER METHODS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TIE-BREAKERS
If a tie exists (for any position) at the conclusion of the NHRA Lucas Oil National Championship series, it shall be resolved as follows. If, after step one is followed a tie still remains, additional steps are to be followed until tie is broken.
1. Review full season of scored National and scored Division event racing between tied drivers (both drivers must have received points at events being compared). Driver with most “head to head” victories wins tie.
2. Review full season of scored National and scored Division events (scored events are events at which driver received points). Driver with most rounds won wins tie.
3. Calculate average qualifying positions from scored National and scored Division events. Qualifying position to be rounded to one decimal point – for example, a driver qualifying 8, 15, and 9 would have a 10.7 average. Driver with the lowest average qualifying position wins tie.
4. Calculate average qualifying elapsed-times from scored National and scored Division events. Driver with the quickest average qualifying elapsed-time wins tie (Comp, SS, Stock is furthest under their class index – Super category qualifying ET’s under class index are voided).

Re: Who is going to win comp national title
 

my understanding in Comp is you can enter mutiple classes per year however you can only hit the index in 2 classes--- once that happens you are then
restricted to only those 2 classes you hit the index in until the next season

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That is my understanding also.

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After first round it looks like Rampy got a single when Skillman was a no show, Vincent won but used up 7 hun on his index, Patterson from the ladder looked like a no show also. Looks like Vincent will start adding to his total if he wins 2nd round, Rampy has get by a couple of more rounds to add to his. Tom

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Losing 7 off his index didn't help, looks like it's Rampy. Didn't Vincent lose some off his permanent index at the Vegas National as well?Scotty electing to run the big bracket races I get, just surprised Barone didn't throw together a deal to make a western swing more tempting. Have a lot of respect for the unique breed of Comp racers that tough it out every year, the class is a pure joy to watch. Guess Rampy/Skillman team gets the crown, helps make it up for Drew coming in second two years in a row (officially anyway).

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Rampy is gonna hafta make another run 55 under his new cic index plus cut a real good light too if Warter runs his flat out @540 under to beat him--- plus Rampy will lose a .01 or more to his perm index if he does that and be a tentht cic for round 4--whats he got left can he run that fast? we will see in round 3

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Well looks like Vincent will lose on head to head matchups with Patterson in Div 5, lets see if he goes to Pomona, he would have to go anyway if he won the championship. Tom

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Losing permanent index at Las Vegas doesn't effect any of the Championship contenders. Las Vegas is altitude indexes. The ones that go to Pomona will have their original non altitude index to beat up in their efforts.

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I don`t think it works that way anymore. Index loss is index loss regardless of altitude track or sea level.

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March of 2014----you hit the index you lose index regardless of where its at--

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Is this to mean that if you race Vegas with an index of 8.75 and take .03 permanent, that this .03 will be taken off the non altitude index as well as the altitude index? Never heard this before. If true, that changes some things. Some of the altitude indexes are softer than than their non altitude indexes by a little and the reason that some Comp racers didn't care if they beat the index up at Vegas while chasing a Championship. I can think of a few with that philosophy over the last several years.

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You can take index at any race, Shaun took .05 at the national event. It seems the guys that are super quick at altitude tracks aren't nearly as quick at a none altitude track but NHRA continues to say nothing is wrong with the correction.

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Sean Vincent and Clark Smiley elected not to enter Pomona. The entries are closed. Therefore, David Rampy is the 2014 NHRA Comp champion. His fourth title and first since 1995.

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I think both needed to reach the semifinals at Pomona to tie Rampy's points total and go to the finals for a clear win.