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Stephen & Horace Johnson 08-11-2014 02:21 PM

INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Looks like alot more will get in now...

So does that mean the fastest 128 still qualify or will that increase as well??

Jeff Teuton 08-11-2014 02:24 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
There is already 189 in SS. Wow!!!

robzneed4speed 08-11-2014 02:30 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Looks like I picked the right year to attend my first Indy!! CAN'T WAIT. I'll be VERY busy that week. Stay tuned. :)

Rat Raceway 08-11-2014 02:57 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
MAN! That's fantastic! Sure wish I could go....

442OLDS 08-11-2014 03:04 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
It would really be something if, for once, the alternates didn't leave and there were no bye runs in round one of the 128 car field.

Superfan1 08-11-2014 04:03 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson (Post 441178)
Looks like alot more will get in now...

So does that mean the fastest 128 still qualify or will that increase as well??

It will still be a 128 car field.

Superfan1 08-11-2014 04:05 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Super Stock is at 192, and Stock is at 193!

Ed Wright 08-11-2014 04:54 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
193 in SS. Looks like it may fill up again.

Casey Miles 08-11-2014 05:38 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
NHRA is getting as much revenue as possible from S/SS, they have to get it from somewhere. The stands aren't as full as they used to be with spectators as we all can see. I 'm very excited that NHRA saw the need for the increase the fields. You only walk once on this earth so you might as well enjoy what you can and by opening the fields up it allows racers to do their bucket list. I know that I will not qualify but I also will have 61 other racers in the non qualifier locker room with me. I plan on enjoying every minute that I'm there even if I just get 5 passes and put the car back on the trailer.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock

69camz28 08-11-2014 06:05 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
I can't wait to see all the Stock and Super Stock class runs, and I'm also very excited for the Factory Showdown! I will be arriving in Indy Wednesday night and attending the race on Thurs, Fri and Sat. only 2 weeks left!

mannymen 08-11-2014 06:13 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
BIG win for NHRA. A good way to pick up monies lost from low attendance.

Bill Koski 08-11-2014 06:25 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Un effing believeable!
Over 50 people per class spend the $360.00 entry fee, and over $100.00 per crew member to go there without a chance in Hell of winning class or qualifying?????
They could drive there in a 30 MPG car instead of 10 MPG towing and be treated like royalty in the Top Eliminator club for less money!

Casey Miles 08-11-2014 06:45 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Koski (Post 441213)
Un effing believeable!
Over 50 people per class spend the $360.00 entry fee, and over $100.00 per crew member to go there without a chance in Hell of winning class or qualifying?????
They could drive there in a 30 MPG car instead of 10 MPG towing and be treated like royalty in the Top Eliminator club for less money!

I'm getting older and life is passing by, I could care less how much the entry fee is and I'm as cheap as they come. Being a participant and being apart of the race just can't be replaced by just watching from the side lines. It's about living and enjoying life while you can. No one has an expiration date marked on the bottom of their foot.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock

Kevin McKenna 08-11-2014 06:58 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Koski (Post 441213)
Un effing believeable!
Over 50 people per class spend the $360.00 entry fee, and over $100.00 per crew member to go there without a chance in Hell of winning class or qualifying?????
They could drive there in a 30 MPG car instead of 10 MPG towing and be treated like royalty in the Top Eliminator club for less money!

Please explain how this differs from "the good old days" when there were routinely more than 200 Super Stock and Stock entries at Indy and to my knowledge, the field size has always maxed out at 128 (not to mention the late '60s when it was a 32 car field).

Supply and demand. The initial quota was 160. It filled up incredibly fast so 20 more spots were added. Those spots went in about 48 hours so 20 more have been added. With more than 3 weeks before the start of the event, I think everyone is blown away that there is this much interest in class racing. I'm grateful that I booked my travel for a Tuesday arrival. I'm not missing this.

countrypuppy4865 08-11-2014 07:07 PM

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This is going to be my first indy experience, and I am glad they expanded the quota. More cars make for better racing. I am very excited that my first trip to indy will be the biggest event in many years.

Andrew Hill 08-11-2014 07:27 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865 (Post 441222)
This is going to be my first indy experience, and I am glad they expanded the quota. More cars make for better racing. I am very excited that my first trip to indy will be the biggest event in many years.

100% agree. I love to see how many stock and super stock cars are going and wish I was one of them. I'll have to wait until next year for my first Indy (as a driver), hope it's just as big then.

Good luck Cooter, and have fun!

Frito 08-11-2014 07:39 PM

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What Casey and Kevin said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D I've been as a racer and in the Top Elimantor Club. In the West side pits for me.

farmco r/sa 08-11-2014 08:22 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 441201)
193 in SS. Looks like it may fill up again.

shocked if it doesn't fill. some combo's
will get punished for sure. -.085 or so to get in ?

gbur 08-11-2014 08:26 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 441208)
NHRA is getting as much revenue as possible from S/SS, they have to get it from somewhere. The stands aren't as full as they used to be with spectators as we all can see. I 'm very excited that NHRA saw the need for the increase the fields. You only walk once on this earth so you might as well enjoy what you can and by opening the fields up it allows racers to do their bucket list. I know that I will not qualify but I also will have 61 other racers in the non qualifier locker room with me. I plan on enjoying every minute that I'm there even if I just get 5 passes and put the car back on the trailer.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock

no negative thinking, find some pwr,you will get in

Jeff Teuton 08-11-2014 08:59 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Does this mean we need more beer for the Friday A/S Shootout Awards? The pressure is on now. Thursday is the NHRA Sportsman thing (byob I think), Mopar after NHRA for the chosen people, and Friday for the beer party. I'm not sure about others. Frito, when is the AH thing? Can I get an invite? I got to round up my "Hospitality Handling Group". They live in Layer Lane up in the middle of the pits. Don't ever wander up there if you ain't thirsty.

Nick Heath 08-11-2014 09:00 PM

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Man, this is cool! I'm used to seeing ~150 or so of each every year at Indy, so I can't imagine what having another 50 will be like!

Frito 08-11-2014 09:07 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Jeff, you know you are always welcome. Check out the NEW entry in SS/AH. Yep the fried chicken cook is entered this year so a "Silver Bullet" will probably put a few hens out of their misery. Probably Thursday night. Fascat is coming up and staying with me so there will be some cajun crawfish pies for sure.

Nitro Joe Jackson 08-11-2014 09:36 PM

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it will sure be interesting, remember if your a subscriber to the stats feel free to stop by and get a sheet on the latest runs (hopefully have BG done on Monday of Indy to go in the stats sheets) in your class so you have a idea what is going on, and remember the runs in the June issue back in the Northern Class Nationals section can help out also.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...77087138_n.jpg

farmco r/sa 08-11-2014 09:40 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
3 left in stock. 5 in super stock. 7:40 PM PST.,
10:40 PM EST.... other classes have room......
get em in quick.....

scott smith 08-11-2014 10:39 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by farmco r/sa (Post 441248)
3 left in stock. 5 in super stock. 7:40 PM PST.,
10:40 PM EST.... other classes have room......
get em in quick.....

this many cars is just awesome, cannot wait to enjoy the show, maybe this will open N.H.R.A. eyes to do more for the sportsman racers.

Larry Hill 08-11-2014 10:40 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
NHRA got it WRIGHT , "This is INDY!"

It would be cool to have no AHFS, ITS INDY. Smoke 'em if you can, or get smoked. Or as uncle Al would say " Unzip and.........................."

Casey Miles 08-11-2014 11:18 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
For the racers going to Indy, you can print your tech card from the NHRA website. Log in as a National event entry and the print function is at the bottom of the page. After you hit print, it will bring up the back side of the tech card where your SFI information is. It makes it easier then having to write it out.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock

442OLDS 08-11-2014 11:19 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 441257)
NHRA got it WRIGHT , "This is INDY!"

It would be cool to have no AHFS, ITS INDY. Smoke 'em if you can, or get smoked. Or as uncle Al would say " Unzip and.........................."


You must be racing a truck this year?

Mike Voth 08-12-2014 12:08 AM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
O. M. G. !!!!!!!!!
198 in both!! Anyone know where I can find a few more vaca days?? This is the year I've been waiting for. It's also the year that NHRA can take a turn for the better. Put on a good Sportsman show and on ESPN2, show quarters-on, not just the finals. Reward those who make it deep. It may be still a 128-car field, but whomever comes out on top, it will be well deserved, and historical (at least for us youngsters). :D

Jeff Colvert 08-12-2014 12:52 AM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 441257)
NHRA got it WRIGHT , "This is INDY!"

It would be cool to have no AHFS, ITS INDY. Smoke 'em if you can, or get smoked. Or as uncle Al would say " Unzip and.........................."

Dang Larry you took the words right out from my finger tips, why dosen't NHRA understand that nobody wants to see cars dump at 1000'. At least lets us run class all out.

Larry Hill 08-12-2014 07:44 AM

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@ 391 hp. the Cuda should make the "The Show" in B/SA. Its taken me a year to get power removed and I just don't want it back.

fascat 08-12-2014 08:37 AM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frito (Post 441239)
Jeff, you know you are always welcome. Check out the NEW entry in SS/AH. Yep the fried chicken cook is entered this year so a "Silver Bullet" will probably put a few hens out of their misery. Probably Thursday night. Fascat is coming up and staying with me so there will be some cajun crawfish pies for sure.

Crawfish Pie me oh my- Crawfish Pasta, Shrimp Pasta, Kajun Jambayla. Fascat

Carguy49 08-12-2014 12:40 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 441195)
It will still be a 128 car field.

;);) Let me throw this out there. I know the field is set at 128 for each, but how hard would be to let everybody run?? If I did the math correctly, it would only be 1 more round in eliminations. 7 rounds now and 8 rounds with all run, but there would be 3 rounds with an automatic single. What a show that would be. I suppose that would be opening a BIG can of worms for NHRA.

Oh well, just a thought.

Kevin McKenna 08-12-2014 12:48 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carguy49 (Post 441305)
;);) Let me throw this out there. I know the field is set at 128 for each, but how hard would be to let everybody run?? If I did the math correctly, it would only be 1 more round in eliminations. 7 rounds now and 8 rounds with all run, but there would be 3 rounds with an automatic single. What a show that would be. I suppose that would be opening a BIG can of worms for NHRA.

Oh well, just a thought.


Ron,
The best answer I could give you is that it's never been done before in Super Stock or Stock. 128-cars is the max anywhere.

I think it would also be a nightmare for the guys in the lanes trying to pair the cars after qualifying so the only way it would work would be to make it random pair in the first round like Super Comp and Super Gas. I'm not sure many class racers would want to see that. After all, isn't it a source of pride to have one of the quickest cars in the field?

There haven't been anywhere near this many Super Stock and Stock cars at Indy since 2004 (when the quotas were also at 200) so every qualifying round is going to be meaningful.

Mike Carr 08-12-2014 12:56 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Yes, an all-run field would severely cheapen Indy (more so than it already has been).

The only races with an all-run field of eight rounds has been the Dutch Classic in the past (150 Stockers would show) or the US Class Nationals (187 cars on the ladder).

Carguy49 08-12-2014 01:01 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Kevin, I hadn't thought about trying to get all the cars paired up for the first round especially. Definitely would NOT want random pairings. I am sure there would be some cars "picked on". It was just a thought, but I can see the mess that might happen. To go from 128 cars to 200 could create a nightmare in staging. Thanks Kevin.


Another good point that I let slip my mind in my post. As I have stated in another thread Indy is the last performance orientated race - Let the fast cars play.

farmco r/sa 08-12-2014 02:27 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 441257)
NHRA got it WRIGHT , "This is INDY!"

It would be cool to have no AHFS, ITS INDY. Smoke 'em if you can, or get smoked. Or as uncle Al would say " Unzip and.........................."

Fully agree Larry ..

Superfan1 08-12-2014 02:55 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Wednesday August 27 can't get here fast enough! The Super Stock and Stock show is always extra special at Indy, but this will be even better.

Mike Voth 08-12-2014 02:57 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 441327)
Wednesday August 27 can't get here fast enough! The Super Stock and Stock show is always extra special at Indy, but this will be even better.

x2

Michael Beard 08-12-2014 03:30 PM

Re: INDY quota is 200 for S/SS
 
It was done at the original US Class Nationals in 2001. The ladder was printed out on 6 pages, and cars were called one page at a time. It seemed pretty orderly to me, as I recall. Even with 128 cars, they don't call all of them to the lanes at the same time.

We had the same "All-Run on a Sportsman Ladder" program at the Auto Meter Northern Class Nationals. We have Nitro Joe. :cool:

That being said, do I expect Indy to change? No. If we can grow our program enough, I'd consider making the Class Nationals 128-car fields, and have a "Duck Race" S/SS Combo for non-qualifiers, but we have more flexibility, since we only run two classes. Just thinking out loud.

Indy is what it is. I'm one of those slow guys that can't even enter with a prayer, but I'll probably come out one day to watch.


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