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FED 387 04-22-2014 11:53 AM
what happened to Jeff Lee
 
What happened to Jeff Lee he has not posted for a long time??? Was he banned??
Is he still doing real estate in Phoenix area?? My relative is considering Phoenix for a winter get away rental thought I might give them his info--FED387

Randall Klein 04-22-2014 12:59 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Sure would like his take on tow hubs

jmcarter 04-22-2014 01:06 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Recall him getting some grief on the forum from some 'members' for his DQ at Vegas (like who hasn't made a mistake in the rush to get a new combo to the track?) but he posted some after that so just figured he's super busy with the Phoenix real estate market. You can send him a regular e:mail using his forum contact info...

http://classracer.com/classforum/member.php?u=13520

H Hoover 04-22-2014 07:02 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Who cares.

Mark Yacavone 04-22-2014 07:23 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 428740)
What happened to Jeff Lee he has not posted for a long time??? Was he banned??
Is he still doing real estate in Phoenix area?? My relative is considering Phoenix for a winter get away rental thought I might give them his info--FED387
Dick, He's around..PM me or email

Ed Fernandez 04-22-2014 07:54 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
It takes a while to remove parts that were erroneously allowed.Over and out.

SSDiv6 04-22-2014 08:21 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
He got banned.

SSDiv6 04-22-2014 08:27 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by H Hoover (Post 428791)
Who cares.
You may not care but there are others that do.

Ed Wright 04-22-2014 08:27 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 428801)
He got banned.
Big club. LOL

Yo Ken 04-22-2014 09:26 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Jeff is not banned.

Ed Wright, if you would like to join that club I can make it happen... LOL to you.


Ken

Pedigo Perf 04-22-2014 10:06 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 428803)
Big club. LOL
Been there???

69Cobra 04-22-2014 10:10 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 428799)
It takes a while to remove parts that were erroneously allowed.Over and out.
Dayum!!!

Gordie Kissner 04-23-2014 01:49 AM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Noticed he hasn't run at any division races so far this year and don't think he has posted since the end of last year..Hope all is well Jeff!

Don Kennedy 04-23-2014 02:20 AM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie Kissner (Post 428843)
Noticed he hasn't run at any division races so far this year and don't think he has posted since the end of last year..Hope all is well Jeff!
In talking to Jeff late last year it sure seemed like he was banned something about not following the admin rules and putting a 3 month old car for sale ad back to the top and not rewriting the ad or something.
I know he's busy with remodeling houses to flip and still finding time to work on that AMX. He was in the D7 race in October in Vegas and was #3 qualifier with over 100 entries first time out with all new combo but then DQ'd and then again at D7 this year raced in Chandler. He raced SS that time with his stock parts and found out it was not so fast in SS but he has his old SS parts getting freshened up so he will be fast in SS just takes time with his business and big family. I know he is racing or testing this Saturday at Firebird. Call him up he will help your relative. 602-418-9797

mopacltd 04-23-2014 12:10 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
If you want to look at property in the Yarnell, Wickenburg area. My wife is a real estate agent and can show you the area. 928)231-3815

Tom keedle 04-23-2014 06:45 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
sounds like he's pissed a few people off besides me...

Patric Fox 04-23-2014 10:57 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Maybe NHRA should remove other erroneous parts too Ed

Ed Fernandez 04-24-2014 01:26 AM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patric Fox (Post 428941)
Maybe NHRA should remove other erroneous parts too Ed
You're 100% right Pat. But when you look at the sum total of what was proposed you kind of had to scratch your head.

Eric Pearson AMX 05-07-2014 02:41 AM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Ed, what parts do you think should not be allowed? Pretty sure all of them were replacement parts from the AMC factory. We have the original books from AMC to prove it....maybe do your research before you start knocking people down for trying to get it approved. I believe it was someone out your way that cried to NHRA about everything to get it revoked. Guess some people actually race and some people complain about everyone else who races but we all know is which side!

Eric Pearson

"I speak on behalf of myself and not my dad and or family"

Jim Wahl 05-07-2014 12:38 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
I may be wrong, my memory isn't what it used to be but as I remember, he had a or some SS only parts on the car but running the car as a Stocker. Remember it was a Stocker then a SS'er then a Stocker again .As I said, my memory isn't what it used to be so.......

Whatever it was I'm sure it was an honest mistake.

As far as being banned. It's a big club! If you haven't been banned at least once, you're not posting enough!! Jim:D


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SSDiv6 05-07-2014 02:35 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 430590)
I may be wrong, my memory isn't what it used to be but as I remember, he had a or some SS only parts on the car but running the car as a Stocker. Remember it was a Stocker then a SS'er then a Stocker again .As I said, my memory isn't what it used to be so.......

Whatever it was I'm sure it was an honest mistake.

As far as being banned. It's a big club! If you haven't been banned at least once, you're not posting enough!! Jim:D


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Jim,

Jeff's engine was legal for Stock Eliminator.
The only reason NHRA questioned him was regarding the leaf spring shackles that in my opinion and the same of others, were and are legal.

jmantle 05-07-2014 07:10 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patric Fox (Post 428941)
Maybe NHRA should remove other erroneous parts too Ed
I totally agree with that statement. On the other hand, AMC group 19 parts should not be legal nor should anything else that was not available on the showroom floor be legal in stock other than replacement parts that are NHRA approved and do not significantly improve performance. That should not include bigger carbs, "police specials" and some of the other stretches of the rules that have managed to sneak thru over the years.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

Tom keedle 05-07-2014 07:23 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
well, guys, NHRA approved the carb, intake and cam....we go buy 'em and then NHRA or somebody bitches about it and then they get un-approved.

I'm happy as **** because I cannot find the correct carb for my 290,cool, I can quit looking, right?

nope,roughly 1500 bucks down the drain for me.
MY issue with Jeff is he said I was the one that "threw him under the bus" (his words)

news flash, I'm in the same boat, why the hell would I do that?

I could live with the cam and intake getting pulled but why were they approved in the 1st place?


oh well, i'll just run in the local stick class for now

SSDiv6 05-07-2014 07:31 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmantle (Post 430626)
I totally agree with that statement. On the other hand, AMC group 19 parts should not be legal nor should anything else that was not available on the showroom floor be legal in stock other than replacement parts that are NHRA approved and do not significantly improve performance. That should not include bigger carbs, "police specials" and some of the other stretches of the rules that have managed to sneak thru over the years.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632
So Jim,

What is so different with AMC's that can't have parts that were approved under the same guidelines as other makes?
Not to rehash the same B.S. again; nevertheless, I have seen the documentation sent by Chrysler to NHRA making the parts legal for use. It is the same process used by other OEM's to have parts approved such as the 2 x 4 barrel Shelby's, the higher lift cams, Chevy 283 with a 327 intake, etc...

Again, please edify me why AMC's are different and why the same rules don't apply?

1320racer 05-07-2014 08:16 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
jeff who? :D

jmantle 05-07-2014 08:29 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 430633)
So Jim,

What is so different with AMC's that can't have parts that were approved under the same guidelines as other makes?
Not to rehash the same B.S. again; nevertheless, I have seen the documentation sent by Chrysler to NHRA making the parts legal for use. It is the same process used by other OEM's to have parts approved such as the 2 x 4 barrel Shelby's, the higher lift cams, Chevy 283 with a 327 intake, etc...

Again, please edify me why AMC's are different and why the same rules don't apply?
Same rules should apply. Unfortunately over the years a lot of bogus stuff has managed to slip thru, sometimes with the "cooperation" of the factory guys. The problem the AMC guys face is there small numbers, less people making noise.
Group 19 3310 Holley on the Pacer, think that should be legal?

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

Gordie Kissner 05-07-2014 09:20 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 430639)
jeff who? :D
And you are?? Speaking of needing banned...again

Eric Merryfield 05-07-2014 10:45 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmantle (Post 430641)
Same rules should apply. Unfortunately over the years a lot of bogus stuff has managed to slip thru, sometimes with the "cooperation" of the factory guys. The problem the AMC guys face is there small numbers, less people making noise.
Group 19 3310 Holley on the Pacer, think that should be legal?

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632
Not for stock, but it would be fair for super stock since the motor is @ 160 anyway.......I would love to see that for the Gremlin!

Eric

Ed Fernandez 05-07-2014 11:07 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Eric, show me where the factory installed the 950 CFM "approved" carb. Would you like to debate the TRW piston?
Pat is correct about chasing other bogus parts, but there's too many out there benefitting from them. Oh and NHRA doesn't have the cujones to pick on a combo that has a lot of users.
Jim, you're 100% right. Jim did you know that you could have had a 500 cfm Holley factory installed on the 258" six? High altitude option. :>) We both missed the boat on that one.

SSDiv6 05-07-2014 11:56 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmantle (Post 430641)
Same rules should apply. Unfortunately over the years a lot of bogus stuff has managed to slip thru, sometimes with the "cooperation" of the factory guys. The problem the AMC guys face is there small numbers, less people making noise.
Group 19 3310 Holley on the Pacer, think that should be legal?

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632
Your are using a poor example of using the 3310 Holley in a Pacer since there was not a 4 barrel engine offered. The 3310 Holley only applies to 4 barrel engines. The use of the 3310 Holley is the same issue as when they allowed the Boss 351 to use the Holley carb in lieu of the Motorcraft OEM carb.

The issue of "making noise" is the fact that NHRA has always been selective of whom they allow to get away with changes to the specs.

Jim Wahl 05-08-2014 05:12 AM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 430590)
I may be wrong, my memory isn't what it used to be but as I remember, he had a or some SS only parts on the car but running the car as a Stocker. Remember it was a Stocker then a SS'er then a Stocker again .As I said, my memory isn't what it used to be so.......

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For the record....... I WAS wrong! Told you my memory was bad! Jim

1320racer 05-08-2014 10:19 AM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie Kissner (Post 430649)
And you are?? Speaking of needing banned...again
which of my many replies to technical questions, drawing from my 1st hand experience over 22 years and over 5000 passes don't you agree with?:d

SSDiv6 05-08-2014 11:18 AM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 430678)
For the record....... I WAS wrong! Told you my memory was bad! Jim
Jim, don't be so hard on yourself...even when you are wrong, you are right in my book because you acknowledge it! ;)

Jim Wahl 05-08-2014 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 430710)
Jim, don't be so hard on yourself...even when you are wrong, you are right in my book because you acknowledge it! ;)
I think I'm gunna cry! Thanks. Jim

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Eric Merryfield 05-08-2014 12:57 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 430664)
Eric, show me where the factory installed the 950 CFM "approved" carb. Would you like to debate the TRW piston?
Pat is correct about chasing other bogus parts, but there's too many out there benefitting from them. Oh and NHRA doesn't have the cujones to pick on a combo that has a lot of users.
Jim, you're 100% right. Jim did you know that you could have had a 500 cfm Holley factory installed on the 258" six? High altitude option. :>) We both missed the boat on that one.
Your joking on this one right Ed?, a 500 cfm Holley would be a nice addition, I think all the 2 barrell cars should get some love with a brand new replacement carb like the majority of the 4 barrell cars can.

joespanova 05-08-2014 01:03 PM
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Is he related to SARA?:)
http://static3.businessinsider.com/i...b/sara-lee.jpg

Ed Fernandez 05-08-2014 01:46 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom keedle (Post 430629)
well, guys, NHRA approved the carb, intake and cam....we go buy 'em and then NHRA or somebody bitches about it and then they get un-approved.

I'm happy as **** because I cannot find the correct carb for my 290,cool, I can quit looking, right?

nope,roughly 1500 bucks down the drain for me.
MY issue with Jeff is he said I was the one that "threw him under the bus" (his words)

news flash, I'm in the same boat, why the hell would I do that?

I could live with the cam and intake getting pulled but why were they approved in the 1st place?


oh well, i'll just run in the local stick class for now
Tom, that stuff was approved under let's say 'fuzzy" math.NHRA didn't do their homework on it,like many other decisions they've made.

Ed Fernandez 05-08-2014 01:49 PM
Re: what happened to Jeff Lee
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield (Post 430734)
Your joking on this one right Ed?, a 500 cfm Holley would be a nice addition, I think all the 2 barrell cars should get some love with a brand new replacement carb like the majority of the 4 barrell cars can.
Eric, I'm sure you know there are sneaky pete carbs that have been used over the years. I know of one for AMC's. Not so much other brands.

FED 387 05-08-2014 02:00 PM
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Gentlemen--- please take a time out !!! I merely asked where Jeff was and if he was still involved in real estate as I had a relative possibly interested in renting something in Phoenix for the winter--- I really do not care about his or your beefs with his equipment or the NHRA system!!! Let it rest please. Have a nice day Regards FED387

Ed Fernandez 05-08-2014 02:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 430750)
Gentlemen--- please take a time out !!! I merely asked where Jeff was and if he was still involved in real estate as I had a relative possibly interested in renting something in Phoenix for the winter--- I really do not care about his or your beefs with his equipment or the NHRA system!!! Let it rest please. Have a nice day Regards FED387
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