Imitation: The Most Sincerest Form Of Flattery
 

Most racers want to be World Champions. With that being said. How do all of us get to be the last three sets of cars in eliminations?

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It's the "Last Three Designated Pair Rule". :rolleyes:

I recommend not being late to the lanes with Nitro Joe in the back. ;) We will run as efficient a program as is possible, by dividing up the field. (different colored run stickers in Qualifying). When we call you, we need you. Get there, suit up, last checks, get in, and go down the track. That way people don't have to spend an hour lounging in the staging lanes, and can spend more time enjoying the race, working on their cars, benchracing, grilling out, or what have you. Remember that despite having 300+ cars, we'll still have just two classes, so it will feel faster paced than an LODRS.

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I think if your the last pair out you should be in the first pair out the next round, second pair the same. Their always the same ones maybe a little class. Will you have them racers at your race Michael??

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Larry just take your time its easier and safer to wait out the traffic.

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Keep two lanes open and when the usually tail-end Charlies come adrag'in up put them at the head of the lanes and first out! Let'em know you have a place for'em... goin down the track.

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Guess I really don't understand why this is an issue. Why do racers care who is always at the back, the last in line? If your opponent likes to be last, then why would you be up there first waiting and getting upset over it? If it really is a problem for the race staff, then make the first class call and 15 minutes later, close the lanes to that class. If you are not in, you don't race. Miss the call once and you will never miss again.

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agree

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I'm not seeing this as a huge problem.

The three people that this always seems to be directed at are almost always running at least two classes.

If you're letting the time at which they arrive in the staging lanes get into your head, you're beating yourself, and have no one to blame but yourself.

Use all the time your opponent gives you to prepare your car mechanically, and yourself mentally.

Being last in the lanes does not make you a winner, or a champion.

Worrying yourself about what time someone else gets to the lanes may keep you from being a winner, or a champion.

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This Thread Title: The Most Inaccurate-est Form of English

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I think Adger has a fantastic idea. One can come up last and pull right to the head of the lanes? No waiting? Like easy pass for the staging lanes? Sign me up! Well maybe not me, but someone that likes to come up last might like the idea...

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Having Dan repond to this thread on the first page while waitng for his call to the lanes today,

priceless......................................... .

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x2

Way cool!

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I knew someone would "Get it" thanks Dan. ;)
Dan, are you in the staging lanes or back at the trailer reading this thread?
Humm

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Priceless.
Coming from a guy that's perpetually near the end of every round, qualifying or racing.
Playing head games or whatever the reason.
No respect for the rest of the class.
If your statement is true, then get up there!

FJ

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Head games?....or just making sure he's fully prepared seeming as how this is how he provides for his family

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Not a valid response. Like everybody else doesn't prepare or doesn't really have a stake in winning? Get real. That said, agree with Alan, if it messes with somebody to wait till the end to run then they are setting themselves up for failure. Couple of years ago I watched two ex-world champions preparing to pull past the line and head for the water. One is noted for waiting till the last possible second to dial his car and as I watched his theatrics the other racer didn't seem the least bit concerned..wasn't even looking over, now that's the winning mentality.

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Fred, with all due rspect, I really could care less what you think. I'll run my program how I see fit, and I'd encourage you to do the same. I choose to spend every available minute preparing to the best of my ability, and it has zero to do with head games or respect.

If I'm in a designated pair, I'll be there. If a rope goes up to close the lanes at a given time, I'll be there before it happens. You worry about you, and I'll worry about me.

If you'll excuse me now, I have three cars to prepare for today's final eliminations. I'd hate to be late to the lanes...

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I think Dan and Alan R. have it figured out.

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Where's the "Like" button?? What's wrong with using every single piece of info and time available to make the best possible decision for you and your family?? If you have ever been around Camp Fletcher you would know that Dan is the most prepared racer on the planet..... Good luck today Dan and Michael..

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Without a doubt!....Winning creates HATERS

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We all prepare, but nobody that I've seen out prepares Dan. Why doesnt anybody ever complain about the racers who always have to be first in line. What about those guys.

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those 2 came up late in Orlando and got thrown out

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Mickey,

Those two are notorious!

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Was that the run after they got tangled up at the scales?

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As you recall we had ZERO issues with staging the first time around even with all the exhibition classes with lots of heads up runs there was no screwing around everyone came up in a timly manor and no real stragglers anyone who knows Byron, and Ron, Leak knew that crap was not tollerated there ever, no matter who you are or were

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They were both light but the runs counted because they were first out.

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every time i have run Dan he was not last
if you run two cars you may not be first

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Dan, you're such a kidder.Larry did someone pee on your corn flakes again?

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Now me, I'm just thankful to have a spot somewhere in the lanes....:cool:

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someone has to be last . i cant see how it disrespects the class. There has to be other things to occupy your time than crying about ones routine.

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Hey Ed, I eat Wheaties and I keep waiting for the desired effects to kick in!

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To quote Alex: As you recall we had ZERO issues with staging the first time around even with all the exhibition classes with lots of heads up runs there was no screwing around everyone came up in a timly manor and no real stragglers anyone who knows Byron, and Ron, Leak knew that crap was not tollerated there ever, no matter who you are or were

Alex I'm pretty sure you remember that "Yours truly" was working the staging with the very capable help of a Father Son team.
When I had a stragler I was burning a path to their pit area on the 4 wheeler requesting they get in line.
The one that I spent the most time requesting their presence in the lanes was a known Hemi car.
We had a field of racers that really wanted tobe there & race. It was one of the best times I've ever had at a track, even though I was still in bad health and working in Hot, Hot weather. It was a pleasure to be there!!

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Yep, that's the pic that started this mess of a thread.

I always thought it was a race down the track, not to the staging lanes.

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Fact is, if everybody came up late after a call to the lanes, they could never keep the race on any kind of schedule. I think the procedure that designates the first couple of pairs for eliminations helps things a bit.

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Damn, am I too late to make popcorn :-)

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Didn't Rusty Johnson have a remedy for this @ Gainesville a couple of years ago??

When the opponent finally showed up and wanted to "flip" for lane choice, Rusty told him he flipped 20 minutes ago and Rusty won the flip......and the round!!

If somebody chooses to run two Classes and can't get ready in time for the other Class maybe they should stick with running just one Class and not be under all that pressure.

RJ

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The fact is somebody has to be first somebody has to be second somebody has to be in the middle and somebody has to be last. As long as your not sitting in the water waiting for them what difference does it make.

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Jim, that new rule that they implemented at Gainesville last year where the last 3 qualifiers vs their numeric opponents was a far shot off if they were trying to get to the late show-er-upers. If you want to get them they need to do random picks. The bottom 3 are not the problem. I was one of the bottom 3 last year and did not make it on time due to unusual circumstances and stupidity. I am not the one they are trying to get or for that matter any of the bottom 3.

It really does not matter if an opponent wants to show up early or late, when the starter calls you to the water box, go on in with or without them if you choose. no biggie. Now if you are playing games like that guy a couple of years ago with the white Mustang convertible that got repossessed at the track, that's a different story. Said he learned it from Scotty School, but he took it beyond common sense.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA not better late than never.

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Can someone please explain why being at the end matters?? Why is it such a big issue for some racers? Do you really think that you can change the way other racers operate? The three Camaro drivers in that picture win more rounds in a season then most win in a lifetime. I'm sure who ever is last in the lanes does not bother them in the least.
I guess some racers just need a group hug......................

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Here is the way to stop racers from being "too" late to the lanes. Too late is when it affects the next class to race. During Qualifying, or time trials, when you make the "last call" for each class, that's when that class starts down the track. When you run out of cars for that class, then that's when it's over for that run. Once you stop the first racer from running a Q or TT, most of the problems will correct themselves. I believe most of these issues are during TTs, Qual, or the first few rounds of eliminations when car counts are higher. No one wants to wait in the staging lanes too long before running an elimination round while the weather can change. Like R1 in INDY.
As the rounds progress and there are fewer cars, allowances need to be made for someone that is still in in both classes. No one should get upset at a racer that is racing two classes and that is the reason for being a little late.
If you are running 2 classes, you know the sequence of runs and need to not put your self in position to be DQ'd.