2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 

Hi Everybody,
Just seen NHRA has posted Stock and Superstock Classification and blueprint specs for the 2011-2014 V6 Mustangs, This is a great thing at lest I think so. Just wanted to let everybody know !
Happy Holidays to all !
Tony K.

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Glad to see it in the classification guide.
Too bad it was rated at 260 hp. Should have been 230 hp, IMO.

That combo needs at least 350 flywheel hp to barely run the K/SA index.
Looks do-able, but won't be easy because there is almost zero aftermarket support.
Long tube headers are available, but that's about it.
Not sure if any aftermarket EFI systems will work on that engine.
For now it would have to be the factory ecu.


That bellhousing bolt pattern might be a challenge for PA transmissions or some other bellhousing maker to mate the C-4 up to it.
I believe the 3.5 Ecoboost V-6 has the same bolt pattern., so the investment from them might be worth it.

That engine looks like an 8,000 rpm screamer with the right valve springs.
Deep rear gears and a deep 1st gear might be the ticket.
Lightweight 4500 plus stall convertor ?

Or.... a Jerico trans with a custom bellhousing ?

I have been researching the 3.7 and cannot find much info on it.

Looks like a fun combo once you get past the EFI system and C-4 bellhousing issues.

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I think the V6 could be a really cool combination. If it could make 390, it would be a 1.00 under car in K. I think it will probably be easier than the 302 at 380. I would say 4500 stall would be low. I see no reason aftermarket EFI systems wouldn't work.

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YES a couple V6 Mustang racers what to run Pure Stock.
Helped them get Classified through Mike Baker !!

AL..
You are gonna have COMPETITION !!!:D

D

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Dan,
Just E-Mailed Mike Baker on Monday about Classification in Pure Stock for the 2014 Mustang V6 ! did not hear anything yet probably after the Holidays I was down south a couple weeks ago with the Mustang and I got to say this should be a good combo in G/PS trim or close to 3680 lbs with a Tune ,Cold air kit and rear lower control arms and cat delete pipes the best run was a 13.27 @ 105.60 not to bad still have work to do !
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all
Tony K.

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Certainly apples and oranges, but somewhat pertinent, I’ve got a 2013 F150 with the 3.7 motor. This replaced a 1984 Dodge D250 with a 360.

In every conceivable category, the F150 is from another planet. (This is a base, XL “work” truck vs the old Dodge which was a “Prospector”… the high end at that time.)

The 3.7 in the truck may be tweaked a little different than the Mustang, but compared to that old 360, the 3.7 is like a rocket. It can easily tow/pull anything the 360 could, and then some.

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Tony:
I am very interested in your combo.
The NHRA K/SA index is 12.65 @ 3550 lbs raceweight.

What rear gear ratio was in the rear end on that 13.27 run ?
Your MPH looks good !
What were your rpm shift points ?

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The 2011 truck 3.7 is the same just a different tune, get a tuner and a cold air kit and you will get more power and better mileage !
Al, there is nothing wrong with the factory PCM it is very tunable and tuning software out there and tuners if you are going to run a C4 trans should not be a problem just shut some stuff off in the PCM. There is more aftermarket parts coming every day ! Headers Off-Road Pipes, Exhaust , Drivetrain, Light Weight Wheels and Tires All kinds of Suspension Parts ,Camshafts, Pistons just to name a few things that are already out there.
Tony K.

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Al,
My rear gear is a 3.31( going to change to ? )
I got my shift points set at 6950 rpm
My 60' was 1.99
Tony K.

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Thanks Tony.

Does the V-6 Mustang come with a 8.8 rear end ?

Sounds like the combo needs 4.56 (or higher) gears, 28 inch tall slicks, high stall convertor, and drag springs.

Would be great to get the car to run under the index with the factory 6 speed automatic.

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They do have an 8.8.

4.56 with a 4.17 first gear? Good luck!

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Is 4.17 the first gear ratio in the 6 spd auto ?

If so, 1st shift at 7500 rpm should be at 30-32 mph with a 28 inch slick..

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Yes, this is why I had been running my 5.0 car with a 3.31 and 30" tire. Only uses 3 gears in a 1/4 and gets the overall ratio to something more manageable.

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Al,
Kdanner is wright you have to watch what gear you run, my current tire is 28' tall I will be trying a 3.55 and a 3.73 maybe a 4.10 gear with both a 28' and a 29.5 tire just to see what it will gain. there is a lot to the tunes on these cars but it is all positive stuff ,will let you know how I make out !
Tony K.

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Isn't the factory rating on this 305hp? So they took off 45 hp and you wanted more? I wish I could have 45hp off my factory rating.

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Exactly! We own a 2011 Mustang with the 3.7 and it is a very impressive engine. I don't understand the reduction if Ford advertised to the puplic 305 Hp, why is it derated by NHRA without it going down the track as a stocker yet?

Sean

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Just more of the same. Ford sponsoring a race next year?

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There are a lot of cars that are under rated at first ! but it does not matter for as the first guy that goes a second or more under things will start to change adjustments in HP rating, lower index etc. so with that said you have to be a fool to blast the index ! Me personally am happy with 4 to 8 tenths under. just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions !
Tony K.

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Opinions are like noses everyone has at least one.

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You know, everybody complains about something. If it's sunny and a good day to race, the farmers want rain.

"Wouldn't it be cool if manufacturers got back into S/SS"?
They did and there is bitching about various things.

"Wouldn't it be cool if they'd put newer cars in"?
They did and there is bitching about ratings"

They dropped the hp on various engines (302 2bbl for example) and while people bitched, look how many are being built! In other words, new combo's on the track. This was a direct "cause&effect".

Low hp on a new unproven combo? GREAT, it will get some out there and then if it is good, it'll get hit. If it's still a slug, everybody will give up on it. Some combo's are good and still nobody really runs it. (the infamous 350 pick up for example)

If 260hp gets a crap load of v6 mustangs on the track;(1) they'll get hit if required and (2) there are MORE cars on the track....win/win!

And yes, this too is only an opinion......