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Greg Hill 12-23-2013 09:07 AM

Ford Racing
 
There is a really good article in the new Hot Rod magazine about Ford and their contributions to drag racing. It talks about Ford's shift away from the pro classes and their focus on sportsman racing which I personally think is great. One of the things that I noticed was a picture of the 1964 Galaxie lightweights at the Winternationals. Because they were so much faster than any other stock eliminator cars and that only 50 were made NHRA put them in a separate class and for 1965 made the rule that 500 cars had to be produced for stock eliminator. This thread is not meant to bash Ford, because I really think of all the American car companies, they've got it going on. I love the 2015 Mustang. The rule of 500 cars made for stock should of never been changed. The reason it was changed in 1965 was valid then and is still valid.

All it would of taken was 5 or 6 FX classes and everyone would of been treated fairly. The manufacturers then would of had incentive to put their cars they sell to the public in the guide and I think we would of seen more new cars and some of the older cars that quit would still be racing. I know this has been talked about for the last 5 years on this forum, I just thought I would add some historical perspective.

D.Johns 12-23-2013 06:00 PM

Re: Ford Racing
 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hcjptEzog_0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LxDu_GeS2ZI

barnca2010 12-23-2013 08:45 PM

Re: Ford Racing
 
is there a link to the article?

davidhuff 12-23-2013 08:47 PM

Re: Ford Racing
 
Thanks for taking the time and posting a fun video!:)

ALMACK 12-23-2013 09:50 PM

Re: Ford Racing
 
Cool videos.

Bob Schmalz 12-23-2013 10:55 PM

Re: Ford Racing
 
Seems like a good place to repeat the rumor that I heard recently; Pro Stock has about 2 more years in it's current form. Then they will go to something similar to the Factory Showdown Eliminator type cars like they run at the U.S. Nationals. I image the rules would be a little looser so they have low 8 second cars. The factories would love to have something closer to a factory built car I'm sure.

farmco r/sa 12-25-2013 12:22 PM

Re: Ford Racing
 
agree completely on rule of 500 cars. thanks for the historical retrospect.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 413556)
There is a really good article in the new Hot Rod magazine about Ford and their contributions to drag racing. It talks about Ford's shift away from the pro classes and their focus on sportsman racing which I personally think is great. One of the things that I noticed was a picture of the 1964 Galaxie lightweights at the Winternationals. Because they were so much faster than any other stock eliminator cars and that only 50 were made NHRA put them in a separate class and for 1965 made the rule that 500 cars had to be produced for stock eliminator. This thread is not meant to bash Ford, because I really think of all the American car companies, they've got it going on. I love the 2015 Mustang. The rule of 500 cars made for stock should of never been changed. The reason it was changed in 1965 was valid then and is still valid.

All it would of taken was 5 or 6 FX classes and everyone would of been treated fairly. The manufacturers then would of had incentive to put their cars they sell to the public in the guide and I think we would of seen more new cars and some of the older cars that quit would still be racing. I know this has been talked about for the last 5 years on this forum, I just thought I would add some historical perspective.


D.Johns 12-25-2013 05:24 PM

Re: Ford Racing
 
http://www.dragracermag.com/dick-bra...rogram-part-1/

D.Johns 01-18-2014 12:55 AM

Re: Ford Racing
 
Here you go. Watson Racing had posted a link to it on Facebook today.…

http://www.hotrod.com/feature_storie...#ixzz2qJkOzCmw

bob3240 01-18-2014 09:58 AM

Re: Ford Racing
 
Greg, I agree completely about the 500 rule. Why NHRA did not put the cars in S/S where the 50 car rule was already in place is beyond me.

Ed Wright 01-18-2014 10:15 AM

Re: Ford Racing
 
I certainly agree with the 500 car rule for Stock & Super Stock. Would fix a lot of problems.

MPR 01-18-2014 10:28 AM

Re: Ford Racing
 
When did the NHRA change the rule from 500 units to 50 units in Stock? And why, anyone have the answer to that? I often wonder how many people read the rule book and why nobody says anything about these rule changes until it impacts their own program.
Most people on this forum seem to be under the impression the NHRA made special considerations for the Drag Pak and the Cobra Jet back in 2009. Are the factories pushing the rules in Stock or just following the rules in Stock as they were written?

jmcarter 01-18-2014 10:38 AM

Re: Ford Racing
 
Some of the rutkus over limited car runs kinda dried up when the COPO's arrived...gee, wonder why (lol). While I believe the 500 car rule is good I can also understand how the manufacturers can dictate the rules in order to get them involved. After all, their participation does help keep class racing growing and the cars are definitely cool. Not Duzac, Rayburn, Paquet, etc. type cool but very nice anyway. Now, about those FSS indexes...they are BS.

GUMP 01-18-2014 11:05 AM

Re: Ford Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MPR (Post 416948)
When did the NHRA change the rule from 500 units to 50 units in Stock? And why, anyone have the answer to that?

Wasn't that done in the mid nineties? I remember it being in the "Pontiac Days". I think it was done to get the Firehawk, 1LE, etc. into the guide.


Quote:

I often wonder how many people read the rule book and why nobody says anything about these rule changes until it impacts their own program.
It seems like most everyone welcomed all of the recent changes with open arms. the latest being any spring that fits, aftermarket rockers, etc.


Quote:

Most people on this forum seem to be under the impression the NHRA made special considerations for the Drag Pak and the Cobra Jet back in 2009. Are the factories pushing the rules in Stock or just following the rules in Stock as they were written?
I can't see where the factories broke any rules. Can you?

Ed Wright 01-18-2014 11:22 AM

Re: Ford Racing
 
If they just fixed the bogus hp factors nobody would care.

Has, however, allowed guys that were never before fast, yet can write a check, to suddenly be one of the fast guys.

GUMP 01-18-2014 12:01 PM

Re: Ford Racing
 
Quote:

Has, however, allowed guys that were never before fast, yet can write a check, to suddenly be one of the fast guys.
So, if a guy were to buy YOUR car instead of build one himself, he is less of a racer?

Ed Wright 01-18-2014 12:11 PM

Re: Ford Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 416970)
So, if a guy were to buy YOUR car instead of build one himself, he is less of a racer?

Would not get the same respect as a guy that built one himself.
Mine is nowhere as fast as those new cars anyway.

If they just fixed the bogus hp factors nobody would care.
That ain't gonna happen as long as they are pumping money into NHRA.
Race sponsorships evidently get you a lot of favors.


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